Amen Mr. Elk. FC White took a bad situation and are making a lot of the opportunity. Classy coach who is getting the team to play hard week after week, and being competitive. This team plays good, fundamental soccer - congrats to White on their first win. Here's to the fight to stay in D1.

bkbates wrote:Amen Mr. Elk. FC White took a bad situation and are making a lot of the opportunity. Classy coach who is getting the team to play hard week after week, and being competitive. This team plays good, fundamental soccer - congrats to White on their first win. Here's to the fight to stay in D1.

Ha! I must be watching different games or you guys got something going with FCD. FCD White is playing the same soccer Black played (and still does) when they got the 'bad situation' and made a 'lot of the opportunity'. If kicking and pushing other players to the ground after the ball is gone is fundamental soccer, you must be joking. And everything else we have called ugly soccer. Maybe they don't intend to kick other players, but that is happening at every tackle. They are late and do not know how to stop. Refs around here don't call the fouls if ball stays in play (letting them play). A foul is a foul, whether it gets called or not. However, this time around, some of the FCDW players are big and fast, so somebody is gonna get hurt, baaad.
If I got sick, I won't go to a doctor just because the guy is trying hard. I go to the one with a diploma on the wall.
So please excuse me if I don't Amen to your prayer. Sooner these teams go back down, safer our dds will be.

OK soccertime, why don't you don't beating around the bush and tell us how you REALLY feel about FCDW!!

casey wrote:

soccertime wrote:

bkbates wrote:Amen Mr. Elk. FC White took a bad situation and are making a lot of the opportunity. Classy coach who is getting the team to play hard week after week, and being competitive. This team plays good, fundamental soccer - congrats to White on their first win. Here's to the fight to stay in D1.

Ha! I must be watching different games or you guys got something going with FCD. FCD White is playing the same soccer Black played (and still does) when they got the 'bad situation' and made a 'lot of the opportunity'. If kicking and pushing other players to the ground after the ball is gone is fundamental soccer, you must be joking. And everything else we have called ugly soccer. Maybe they don't intend to kick other players, but that is happening at every tackle. They are late and do not know how to stop. Refs around here don't call the fouls if ball stays in play (letting them play). A foul is a foul, whether it gets called or not. However, this time around, some of the FCDW players are big and fast, so somebody is gonna get hurt, baaad.
If I got sick, I won't go to a doctor just because the guy is trying hard. I go to the one with a diploma on the wall.
So please excuse me if I don't Amen to your prayer. Sooner these teams go back down, safer our dds will be.

So by this statement you are saying that our DD's in DI are more important than the kids DII and DIII? To me this is just a wrong statement to make!!!! All the kids are important, even the kids you are bashing. They are 13 and are playing a game that they enjoy just like your dd. Think about what you are saying, before you say it and how it can be taken.

I never said if anyone is more important than others. All I am saying is that putting players in a competitive league when they are not ready creates a very unsafe situation. Moreover, to stay in D1, certain coaches take the shortcut of playing aggressive game instead of teaching them passing and skills. Rest is whatever you want to read because that is what you think!!!
IMHO, I would rather move my dd to D2 or D3 and give her time to learn how to play soccer instead of just rushing at the ball for the whole game.

Bletherskite wrote:OK soccertime, why don't you don't beating around the bush and tell us how you REALLY feel about FCDW!!

Ok. Anyone can win, but can they play the game??

soccertime wrote:

casey wrote:

soccertime wrote:

bkbates wrote:Amen Mr. Elk. FC White took a bad situation and are making a lot of the opportunity. Classy coach who is getting the team to play hard week after week, and being competitive. This team plays good, fundamental soccer - congrats to White on their first win. Here's to the fight to stay in D1.

Ha! I must be watching different games or you guys got something going with FCD. FCD White is playing the same soccer Black played (and still does) when they got the 'bad situation' and made a 'lot of the opportunity'. If kicking and pushing other players to the ground after the ball is gone is fundamental soccer, you must be joking. And everything else we have called ugly soccer. Maybe they don't intend to kick other players, but that is happening at every tackle. They are late and do not know how to stop. Refs around here don't call the fouls if ball stays in play (letting them play). A foul is a foul, whether it gets called or not. However, this time around, some of the FCDW players are big and fast, so somebody is gonna get hurt, baaad.
If I got sick, I won't go to a doctor just because the guy is trying hard. I go to the one with a diploma on the wall.
So please excuse me if I don't Amen to your prayer. Sooner these teams go back down, safer our dds will be.

So by this statement you are saying that our DD's in DI are more important than the kids DII and DIII? To me this is just a wrong statement to make!!!! All the kids are important, even the kids you are bashing. They are 13 and are playing a game that they enjoy just like your dd. Think about what you are saying, before you say it and how it can be taken.

I never said if anyone is more important than others. All I am saying is that putting players in a competitive league when they are not ready creates a very unsafe situation. Moreover, to stay in D1, certain coaches take the shortcut of playing aggressive game instead of teaching them passing and skills. Rest is whatever you want to read because that is what you think!!!
IMHO, I would rather move my dd to D2 or D3 and give her time to learn how to play soccer instead of just rushing at the ball for the whole game.

Ok, I'll bite. Please list the teams who play 'real' soccer. Are they all in LHD1?

After a visit to the mountains, Rasta confirmed that FCW is the best team in DI. He had just smoked to much to type.

IMO FC Black plays a good game of soccer.

nDanger wrote:[
Ok, I'll bite. Please list the teams who play 'real' soccer. Are they all in LHD1?

I don’t know what you mean by ‘real’ soccer, or good soccer. But there are right and wrong ways of playing the game. There are plenty of teams and players at all levels and ages who play the ‘right’ soccer. It is hard to explain what is right or wrong because it depends so much on competition level, player’s athletic level and other circumstances.



Maybe I can try to explain my comments with the FCDB example. IMO, the FCDB situation of being the 2^nd or 3^rd from the bottom for three years in a row is an ideal situation for developing the players in to excellent defenders because they have faced and held the top D1 teams to only a few goals. The players work hard and the coach works hard. Parents have been very loyal to the coach. None of them quit. Sounds great. Right? Wrong.



So after three years of hard training, has the coach turned out some of the best defenders??? Let’s see!!! Everyone knows that the first rule of proper defending is ‘do not rush at the player with the ball’, or ‘do not lunge’ or ‘wait for the other player to make a move’ or ‘patience and more patience’. Whichever way you look at, this team does not do that. After three years of D1 defending, all they do is exactly opposite. To me that is not playing soccer. They may win once in a while or hold the top team to one goal, but they are not playing soccer by just rushing after the ball. IMO, the players of this team have a big heart, have worked hard and the parents have stood by the coach. But, maybe after three years, they should invest about $20 and buy a book or a dvd on defending.



As for you Mr. Elk, just hope that FCDW does not become another FCDB, but the signs are there.



Cheers.
Ahhhh, whatever.

soccertime wrote:

nDanger wrote:[
Ok, I'll bite. Please list the teams who play 'real' soccer. Are they all in LHD1?

I don’t know what you mean by ‘real’ soccer, or good soccer. But there are right and wrong ways of playing the game. There are plenty of teams and players at all levels and ages who play the ‘right’ soccer. It is hard to explain what is right or wrong because it depends so much on competition level, player’s athletic level and other circumstances.



Maybe I can try to explain my comments with the FCDB example. IMO, the FCDB situation of being the 2^nd or 3^rd from the bottom for three years in a row is an ideal situation for developing the players in to excellent defenders because they have faced and held the top D1 teams to only a few goals. The players work hard and the coach works hard. Parents have been very loyal to the coach. None of them quit. Sounds great. Right? Wrong.



So after three years of hard training, has the coach turned out some of the best defenders??? Let’s see!!! Everyone knows that the first rule of proper defending is ‘do not rush at the player with the ball’, or ‘do not lunge’ or ‘wait for the other player to make a move’ or ‘patience and more patience’. Whichever way you look at, this team does not do that. After three years of D1 defending, all they do is exactly opposite. To me that is not playing soccer. They may win once in a while or hold the top team to one goal, but they are not playing soccer by just rushing after the ball. IMO, the players of this team have a big heart, have worked hard and the parents have stood by the coach. But, maybe after three years, they should invest about $20 and buy a book or a dvd on defending.



As for you Mr. Elk, just hope that FCDW does not become another FCDB, but the signs are there.



Cheers.
Ahhhh, whatever.

Actually there are huge differences between FCDW and FCDB.

At White, the Coach dictates what happens with the team. Maybe sometimes too harshly or in the incorrect manner. Hard to keep players with this style.

At Black, the Manager and the Coppell Coalition dictate what happens with the team. The team will never improve if this doesn't change.

Hmmmmmm, well I guess I should apologize that these 12-13 year old kids are not the second coming of Manchester United based on your comments. God forbid these kids cannot stop on a dime when you would like for them to stop. I'm sure that every person on your team is trained to do that, and your team never commits fouls. Ohhh no......never, never, never....

For the record, I do not have anything going for FCW, but I do have a respect for their coach and the girls for competing week in and week out given the situation they were thrown into this year. If you pay attention, and clearly you don't if you see FCB and FCW as similar, you could see that their coach has had success prior.

Take off your "referee parent" shirt and appreciate what girls this age are capable of, and god forbid, even if it is girls not on your team.

Coppel Coalition. Is that like the Trilaterial Commission?

bkbates wrote:Hmmmmmm, well I guess I should apologize that these 12-13 year old kids are not the second coming of Manchester United based on your comments. God forbid these kids cannot stop on a dime when you would like for them to stop. I'm sure that every person on your team is trained to do that, and your team never commits fouls. Ohhh no......never, never, never....

For the record, I do not have anything going for FCW, but I do have a respect for their coach and the girls for competing week in and week out given the situation they were thrown into this year. If you pay attention, and clearly you don't if you see FCB and FCW as similar, you could see that their coach has had success prior.

Take off your "referee parent" shirt and appreciate what girls this age are capable of, and god forbid, even if it is girls not on your team.

How is this an unfortunate situation that they were thrown into? They took the club bye. They (coach) chose to play against D1 teams and also be assured of a D2 spot next year (may not have stayed in D2 either, had they taken their rightful spot winning D3 last year). I don't see why we should feel sorry for them or respect them 'weathering the storm' when they took a club bye to move up to a level beyond what was earned. I sure our team would have loved to have a high level bye handed to us, I wouldn't complain or say we were thrown into a tough situation.
This is the problem with the current club owns the bye rules. It works great for those clubs and teams for recruiting (FCDW gained a lot based on this D1 bye handed to them, they probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise), but doesn't help create the most competative league.
What success are you referring to in regards to their coach? (not saying he hasn't had any, just don't know what you're talking about)

bkbates wrote:Hmmmmmm, well I guess I should apologize that these 12-13 year old kids are not the second coming of Manchester United based on your comments. God forbid these kids cannot stop on a dime when you would like for them to stop. I'm sure that every person on your team is trained to do that, and your team never commits fouls. Ohhh no......never, never, never....

For the record, I do not have anything going for FCW, but I do have a respect for their coach and the girls for competing week in and week out given the situation they were thrown into this year. If you pay attention, and clearly you don't if you see FCB and FCW as similar, you could see that their coach has had success prior.

Take off your "referee parent" shirt and appreciate what girls this age are capable of, and god forbid, even if it is girls not on your team.

Maybe you are right. I should be more appreciative of what 13 year olds can do. Also, FCDW does not look that bad after today's game.