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Post by PLAY2FEET!! on 01/04/12, 05:11 pm

Today during PT Academy game, 8 yr. old center judge allowed the coach to switch keepers before the PK was taken, and then switch them back after the kick. Coach explained that this is allowed in Academy. I've never heard of such. But considering the center ref stills plays Academy, or is only a few years removed, this very well may be the case. Has anyone else ever heard of this happening?

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Post by gold digger on 01/04/12, 06:06 pm

DD'SBIGGERTHANYOURS wrote:Today during PT Academy game, 8 yr. old center judge allowed the coach to switch keepers before the PK was taken, and then switch them back after the kick. Coach explained that this is allowed in Academy. I've never heard of such. But considering the center ref stills plays Academy, or is only a few years removed, this very well may be the case. Has anyone else ever heard of this happening?

Nope! Never heard of it or seen it shouldn't have been allowed.

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Post by Guest on 01/04/12, 07:42 pm

Completely legal.

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Post by butt3r on 01/04/12, 08:55 pm

I don't know if it is legal or not, but I have done it, and do it all the time. Especially in indoor, when there is a dribble up - I usually sub the keeper for my best defender. Now, I don't have a full time keeper and lots of kids take turns, and most recognize who is better so no feelings are hurt.
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Post by MiddleClass on 01/04/12, 09:00 pm

DD'SBIGGERTHANYOURS wrote:Today during PT Academy game, 8 yr. old center judge allowed the coach to switch keepers before the PK was taken, and then switch them back after the kick. Coach explained that this is allowed in Academy. I've never heard of such. But considering the center ref stills plays Academy, or is only a few years removed, this very well may be the case. Has anyone else ever heard of this happening?

What game was this? 06 game?

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Post by GOTB@LLZ?? on 02/04/12, 09:07 am

butt3r wrote:I don't know if it is legal or not, but I have done it, and do it all the time. Especially in indoor, when there is a dribble up - I usually sub the keeper for my best defender. Now, I don't have a full time keeper and lots of kids take turns, and most recognize who is better so no feelings are hurt.

If Blank, I mean butt3r is using this tactic, it has to be illegal!! Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by nukem on 02/04/12, 11:56 am

Did the replacement keeper make the stop or was it a good kick?
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Post by PLAY2FEET!! on 02/04/12, 12:50 pm

nukem wrote:Did the replacement keeper make the stop or was it a good kick?

Goal was good and yes it was an 06 game.

But either way I've never, ever heard of such. Anyone else?

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Post by RosiePalms on 02/04/12, 12:57 pm

Back in the day when I played, I saw it occasionally. Especially in rec when the coach would put in his son, aka best player in the world, for the poor kid he was trying to hide in goal. I always remember laughing when they scored anyway.
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Post by NasirJones on 02/04/12, 01:15 pm

DD'SBIGGERTHANYOURS wrote:
nukem wrote:Did the replacement keeper make the stop or was it a good kick?

Goal was good and yes it was an 06 game.

But either way I've never, ever heard of such. Anyone else?

I saw it once on a 99 game, where I was an AR.. But you can absolutley switch GKs before a PK at any level as long as it is not a subtitution. So the player switching to GK had to have already been an active player on the pitch... Same thing during tie-breaker PKs. In theory, you can have a different GK for every PK taken

Think of it like this, what if the GK is injured during the play where the PK was ruled... Would they get to shoot on an open goal? lol
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Post by PLAY2FEET!! on 02/04/12, 02:56 pm

NasirJones wrote:
DD'SBIGGERTHANYOURS wrote:
nukem wrote:Did the replacement keeper make the stop or was it a good kick?

Goal was good and yes it was an 06 game.

But either way I've never, ever heard of such. Anyone else?

I saw it once on a 99 game, where I was an AR.. But you can absolutley switch GKs before a PK at any level as long as it is not a subtitution. So the player switching to GK had to have already been an active player on the pitch... Same thing during tie-breaker PKs. In theory, you can have a different GK for every PK taken

Think of it like this, what if the GK is injured during the play where the PK was ruled... Would they get to shoot on an open goal? lol

Thanks. I have seen it happen during tie-breaker PK's but never during the flow of the regular period.
Our particular situation had no effect on the outcome of the game, just never saw it happen before.

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Post by pitchnovice on 02/04/12, 03:15 pm

The referee is the law of the game, there for what he/she said goes, technically.

I tried to change out with one of my rec teams, my goalie had just taken a shot to the face, ball bouncing off of her into my defenders arms. PK is called, goalie is crying, but no blood drawn so shot was taken. Ended up lost the game 1-2. I still have nightmares from that day in 2009. LOL

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Post by Its Me on 02/04/12, 04:10 pm

DD'SBIGGERTHANYOURS wrote:Today during PT Academy game, 8 yr. old center judge allowed the coach to switch keepers before the PK was taken, and then switch them back after the kick. Coach explained that this is allowed in Academy. I've never heard of such. But considering the center ref stills plays Academy, or is only a few years removed, this very well may be the case. Has anyone else ever heard of this happening?

It's been a while since I've done a Primetime game however, within their rules you can sub at "any" stoppage of play.
Which includes changing keepers.
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Post by JeffM on 02/04/12, 04:25 pm

From the FIFA LOTG 2011/2012

Changing the goalkeeper
Any of the other players may change places with the goalkeeper, provided that:
• the referee is informed before the change is made
• the change is made during a stoppage in the match

From Law 3

http://www.ussoccer.com/referees/laws-of-the-game.aspx

And since the LOGT allows for amendments to substitutions for youth play, I would think you could probably sub a keeper from the bench whenever the ref allows it.

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Post by futbollove on 02/04/12, 06:00 pm

mommabear wrote:Completely legal.

Legal yes, but why would you do this in an 06 game?
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