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Post by txtransplant on 09/05/12, 10:01 am

Tonight's episode of Rock Center with Brian Williams focuses on the growing concussion rates in girls soccer. It airs on NBC at 8pm.

Here's a preview link if interested.

http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/


One doctor interviewed stated girls are reporting nearly twice the number of concussions than boys in the same age range.
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Post by TNT on 09/05/12, 10:43 am

I wish the league would mandate the protective headgear, I am kind of shocked that they have not.

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Post by Shelby427 on 09/05/12, 11:30 am

TNT wrote:I wish the league would mandate the protective headgear, I am kind of shocked that they have not.

I can see headgear for young children in indoor, but honestly, headgear will increase injuries.

Adding harder headgear to football actualy increased the level of violent play because players felt "safe" enough to increase the speed and force of their hits with no regard for their "protected" heads.

You just won't see the same kinds of hits in rudgby as players are simply not as protected so they limit the play to a certain extent.

Can you imagine how much more insane it would get in north texas soccer if they added headgear or other pads?

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Post by Guest on 09/05/12, 12:04 pm

Shelby427 wrote:
TNT wrote:I wish the league would mandate the protective headgear, I am kind of shocked that they have not.

I can see headgear for young children in indoor, but honestly, headgear will increase injuries.

Adding harder headgear to football actualy increased the level of violent play because players felt "safe" enough to increase the speed and force of their hits with no regard for their "protected" heads.

You just won't see the same kinds of hits in rudgby as players are simply not as protected so they limit the play to a certain extent.
Can you imagine how much more insane it would get in north texas soccer if they added headgear or other pads?

@Shelby... you a rugger? You nailed it man. I played rugby back in the day and you dont see this type of injury. There are injuries, I can attest to that, but not of this nature at the rate it happens in other sports.

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Post by Guest on 09/05/12, 12:58 pm

TNT wrote:I wish the league would mandate the protective headgear, I am kind of shocked that they have not.


I really believe it is a matter of teaching proper heading techniques and penalizing reckless play!

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Post by badcramp on 09/05/12, 01:40 pm

referees need to call tighter games and be more punitive. The girls game is more pushing and knocking over where the boys game is about the speed of play and skill.

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Post by Guest on 09/05/12, 01:55 pm

Although , I dont think we can place all the blame on the referees. The women's game is ever changing and I believe it to be more important than ever to teach women players to play with the the ball above the waist. I know studies show that women heading the ball to much at a younger age is frowned upon, as it should be, but to protect players this should be taught!

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Post by txtransplant on 09/05/12, 02:04 pm

I know most people complain and elbows, pushing and shoving, but in the last 15 months my DD has played soccer in NTx, I consider the epidemic high kicking problem in girls soccer to be far worse.

Refs need to call it not only for the safety of the players defending the one committing the penalty, but the player committing the infraction as well.

I've seen girls in the middle of a pack, their kicking foot well about their waist, sometimes shoulder high to those around them. They've shifted their center of gravity, placed themselves in an unbalanced position, making it easier to be knocked down to the ground and banging their head.

One of my DD's teammates received a concussion in this matter. The ref penalized her opponent for knocking her to the ground, but the girl was off balanced to begin with.
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Post by 96soccermom on 09/05/12, 05:10 pm


It's scary to me as I see a good friend of my dd who is lying in the ICU with a brain injury from a game at State cup this past weekend. While that injury is on the extreme side it sure makes you think about what could happen.

I'll be interested in watching tonights show.

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Post by AbEnd on 10/05/12, 09:35 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/47364208#47364208

Here's the link to the actual segment.

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Post by txtransplant on 10/05/12, 11:13 am

After watching the segment, I began to wonder about the coach of those girls. So many with multiple concussions on the same squad? And the threats of being benched or removed from the squad for not heading the ball? I'd love to know under what circumstances the coach feels headers are an absolute requirement. That makes zero sense.

I'd like to know if those girls are capable of controlling and/or redirecting the ball to a teammate or into the net with a header or if they're essentially playing header pinball. In which case, the player would be far better off trapping the ball, knocking it to their feet and playing it out.
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Post by Guest on 10/05/12, 12:03 pm

Anyone have a DD using protective headgear? I realize some studies suggest it may not lessen the frequency of a concussion, but it can't hurt.

Any testimonials on avoided injuries, increased player confidence, comfort factor, etc?

Full90 seems to be the best option - recommendations?

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Post by Guest on 10/05/12, 12:08 pm

I am not a dr. It seems the head gear will only protect you from a laceration or bruise! The impact and the brain movement is what causes the actual concussion.

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Post by 98_01_03_05_Dad on 10/05/12, 12:14 pm

The segment mentioned lack of neck strength as a contributing factor. Head gear will only make a weak neck weaker with the added weight on the head. Head gear won't reduce concussions, but better training and neck strengthening will help.

The biggest thing I took away from the show was to know the signs of a concussion, stop playing right away, and let it heal 100% before playing again.

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Post by h_seldon on 10/05/12, 12:22 pm

totalsoccer wrote:I am not a dr. It seems the head gear will only protect you from a laceration or bruise! The impact and the brain movement is what causes the actual concussion.

The foam will absorb some of the impact energy, and any reduction will help. I was surprised they were not even mentioned in the segment. We were also shocked that the blond girl that is still playing after multiples was not wearing one.
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Post by AbEnd on 10/05/12, 02:33 pm

h_seldon wrote:
totalsoccer wrote:I am not a dr. It seems the head gear will only protect you from a laceration or bruise! The impact and the brain movement is what causes the actual concussion.

The foam will absorb some of the impact energy, and any reduction will help. I was surprised they were not even mentioned in the segment. We were also shocked that the blond girl that is still playing after multiples was not wearing one.

My '99 dd wears the F90 headgear after suffering a concussion last year at Chinn Chapel. (She was knocked backwards and slammed the back of her head against the ground.) Once she fitted the headgear correctly (lots of velco straps to play with) she has no problems directing the ball with her head.

The foam headgear provides some protection (the mfg claims 50% reduction in impact force) but not enough that dd think she's invincible. The headgear has protected her from stray elbows and noggins so she willing to wear it.

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Post by Guest on 10/05/12, 05:07 pm

There is a definite risk anytime fast-playing, highly-competitive girls mix it up, but I agree with other posters who've suggested proper instruction and tightly-called games will reduce that risk. And allowing anyone back on the pitch before they're fully healed is reckless & irresponsible.

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Post by Uncle Numanga on 10/05/12, 05:15 pm

Did anyone watch the level of play on the team highlighted? It looked more like rugby than soccer. This was one extremely unlucky rec team.
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Post by TNT on 10/05/12, 06:46 pm

I dont think we can count on tight called games by the ref, and the soccer on the film looked terrible, even the lack of skills when just passing the ball.

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