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Post by soccer00g 04/06/12, 10:06 am

Can anyone tell me how they "rank the teams"? I know they sent an email indicating teams by names of colors? What represents 1st, 2nd etc? Also do those move throughout the year? As a parent is it ok to contact and ask why she is where she is or how she is doing in terms of development or improvement? I don't want to ask if discouraged but would be nice to have some feedback on dd just in general? and if so who would I even direct the question to?



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Post by Its Me 04/06/12, 10:17 am

Can anyone tell me how they "rank the teams"?
The reason they give colors is to keep from explaining the rankings of teams. Most parents would go ballistic if they found out that they were on Team 4.
Therefore they give the kids colors. I think more so for the parents.

Also do those move throughout the year?
Yes, they are moved between teams throughtout the year.

As a parent is it ok to contact and ask why she is where she is or how she is doing in terms of development or improvement?
I would assume you can always call and ask however (personally), they really haven't had a chance to see the girls enough to talk to you about development or improvement.
I think they'll have a better idea after the subregional and OK camp. If they're like the boys the will give them an evaluation to bring home on developement and improvement.
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Post by Guest 04/06/12, 04:30 pm

Patients young grasshopper, is your DD enjoying the training, is she getting to compete with the best player in her age brackett, and it does not seem to be breaking the bank, so let it ride! the camp experience and eventually competing against other state and regional players should be exciting.just my opinion!!!!

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Post by txtransplant 05/06/12, 11:02 am

I hope all the 00's have a great time in God's country!

The facility is absolutely beautiful and the turf is fantastic, even in the August heat. Or so says my husband who is a golfing snob and very particular about his grass, IJS. Wink
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Post by Uncle Numanga 05/06/12, 12:58 pm

Hopefully your dd's room will not have the graphic portrait of a man's private parts painted above her bed like one of my dd's friends did at the OK camp.
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Post by InaB 06/06/12, 01:37 pm

Based on the Sub-regional team list, the teams are as follows

00 Red
00 Blue
00 White
00 Green
00 Yellow

The girls will not get their final evaluation until the end of the camp so as others have said, teams could change.
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Post by TNT 07/06/12, 07:31 am

soccer00g wrote:Can anyone tell me how they "rank the teams"? I know they sent an email indicating teams by names of colors? What represents 1st, 2nd etc? Also do those move throughout the year? As a parent is it ok to contact and ask why she is where she is or how she is doing in terms of development or improvement? I don't want to ask if discouraged but would be nice to have some feedback on dd just in general? and if so who would I even direct the question to?



Not sure either, the first subregional my DD was in the mid pack of the teams going, however they had a better weekend then the claimed top team, the next year she went to Alabama with the "B" team, follow such she moved up to the "A" team for the next subregional and she is now going to Alabama with the only team going, the "A" team. You will figure out which team is which at camp as the chatter will be there. If it is not the level you desire, do not be discouraged, just stay dedicated, encourage your DD to keep working hard and she will keep moving in the right direction.
Besides its a great experience for them.

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Post by harry7405 07/06/12, 08:12 am

Just make sure you have one of your coaches from her club team on the ODP coaching staff. Or if she is a keeper she is getting private lessons from ODP GK staff outside of club training. Both of these scenerios will guarantee a State Team spot.....Oh wait one last way have your DD's mom be the administrator for the team.

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Post by my2cents 07/06/12, 08:31 am

harry7405 wrote:Just make sure you have one of your coaches from her club team on the ODP coaching staff. Or if she is a keeper she is getting private lessons from ODP GK staff outside of club training. Both of these scenerios will guarantee a State Team spot.....Oh wait one last way have your DD's mom be the administrator for the team.

Ahhh, the bitter taste of sour grapes.

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Post by harry7405 07/06/12, 08:38 am

ODP will be a thing of the past with ECNL..no sour grapes here buddy just having some fun...

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Post by Its Me 07/06/12, 08:45 am

my2cents wrote:
harry7405 wrote:Just make sure you have one of your coaches from her club team on the ODP coaching staff. Or if she is a keeper she is getting private lessons from ODP GK staff outside of club training. Both of these scenerios will guarantee a State Team spot.....Oh wait one last way have your DD's mom be the administrator for the team.

Ahhh, the bitter taste of sour grapes.

This is somewhat true especially the administrator part. Can you imagine the administrator going to Alabama and their kid not going.
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Post by keep22 07/06/12, 09:11 am

I wouldn't worry about which color they start with, it's where they end up. My DD (keeper) started at I think yellow and moved up to blue and we didn't even know any coaches in OK (insert wink here).

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Post by my2cents 07/06/12, 09:47 am

harry7405 wrote:ODP will be a thing of the past with ECNL..no sour grapes here buddy just having some fun...

It is is quite diminished in NTX but it is still, and I think always will be, a viable alternative for those that choose not to or because of geopgraphic logistics can not do ECNL. Also many other parts of the country do not have ECNL teams and ODP is still the thing for top players in those areas. The numbers are going down but the national pools are still dominated by ODP players.

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Post by Gunner9 07/06/12, 09:51 am

Just curious. If ODP is diminished, where are the kids being called into NT camps from?
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Post by Gunners 07/06/12, 09:53 am

Gunner9 wrote:Just curious. If ODP is diminished, where are the kids being called into NT camps from?

There is zero connection between USYSA ODP and the US Soccer National Team(s).

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Post by Gunner9 07/06/12, 09:56 am

Then the world has indeed changed. The U18, U21, etc. pools used to be pulled from the Regional teams. No more?
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Post by my2cents 07/06/12, 10:14 am

Gunners wrote:
Gunner9 wrote:Just curious. If ODP is diminished, where are the kids being called into NT camps from?

There is zero connection between USYSA ODP and the US Soccer National Team(s).

Really? This article would suggest otherwise.



46 of 49 players called into April’s U-17 and U-20 Women’s Youth National Team camps bring US Youth Soccer ODP experience
April 21, 2011 10:00 PM
U-17 WNT Camp Roster
U-20 WNT Camp Roster

The United States Under-17 and Under-20 Women's National Teams will come together for a training camp at The Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif., running from April 23-30, along with the Under-23 team. A total of 49 players have been called in for the U-17 and U-20 camps and 46 of those 49 players have come through the US Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program (US Youth Soccer ODP). Between the three teams, a collection of 72 of the top players in the country will be together for the weeklong camp.
http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/46_of_49_players_called_into_april%e2%80%99s_u-17_and_u-20_women%e2%80%99s_youth_national_team_camps_bring_us_youth_soccer_odp_experience/?CategoryId=14489&Year=2011&pg=2

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Post by Gunners 07/06/12, 10:21 am

my2cents wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Gunner9 wrote:Just curious. If ODP is diminished, where are the kids being called into NT camps from?

There is zero connection between USYSA ODP and the US Soccer National Team(s).

Really? This article would suggest otherwise.



46 of 49 players called into April’s U-17 and U-20 Women’s Youth National Team camps bring US Youth Soccer ODP experience
April 21, 2011 10:00 PM
U-17 WNT Camp Roster
U-20 WNT Camp Roster

The United States Under-17 and Under-20 Women's National Teams will come together for a training camp at The Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif., running from April 23-30, along with the Under-23 team. A total of 49 players have been called in for the U-17 and U-20 camps and 46 of those 49 players have come through the US Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program (US Youth Soccer ODP). Between the three teams, a collection of 72 of the top players in the country will be together for the weeklong camp.
http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/46_of_49_players_called_into_april%e2%80%99s_u-17_and_u-20_women%e2%80%99s_youth_national_team_camps_bring_us_youth_soccer_odp_experience/?CategoryId=14489&Year=2011&pg=2

Yes, really. I suggest you read your post a little more closely.

The two organizations have no official ties. Participation in USYSA ODP does not affect a players chances for selection to the US Soccer National Team, no more or less than their participation in club soccer or high school soccer would. I imagine the percentages for those are even higher than ODP! Wink

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Post by Guest 07/06/12, 10:31 am

Pre-ECNL The ODP program is the only one pulling most of the top players together at the 2000 age group. At this time it seems to be the right move for the next two years. With that said will the big picture change over time. yes i believe it will, but for now loving it! Keep up the good work !

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Post by my2cents 07/06/12, 10:47 am

Gunners wrote:
my2cents wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Gunner9 wrote:Just curious. If ODP is diminished, where are the kids being called into NT camps from?

There is zero connection between USYSA ODP and the US Soccer National Team(s).

Really? This article would suggest otherwise.



46 of 49 players called into April’s U-17 and U-20 Women’s Youth National Team camps bring US Youth Soccer ODP experience
April 21, 2011 10:00 PM
U-17 WNT Camp Roster
U-20 WNT Camp Roster

The United States Under-17 and Under-20 Women's National Teams will come together for a training camp at The Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif., running from April 23-30, along with the Under-23 team. A total of 49 players have been called in for the U-17 and U-20 camps and 46 of those 49 players have come through the US Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program (US Youth Soccer ODP). Between the three teams, a collection of 72 of the top players in the country will be together for the weeklong camp.
http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/46_of_49_players_called_into_april%e2%80%99s_u-17_and_u-20_women%e2%80%99s_youth_national_team_camps_bring_us_youth_soccer_odp_experience/?CategoryId=14489&Year=2011&pg=2

Yes, really. I suggest you read your post a little more closely.

The two organizations have no official ties. Participation in USYSA ODP does not affect a players chances for selection to the US Soccer National Team, no more or less than their participation in club soccer or high school soccer would. I imagine the percentages for those are even higher than ODP! Wink

Never said there was an offcial tie between them. There is a huge connection between participating in ODP and the odds of making the National pools since most national pool players have that on their resume. That is like saying there is no connection between playing club and going on to play college. There may be no official ties between colleges and clubs but there is definitely a connection as you won't play college above DIII without club experience.

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Post by whatsup 16/06/12, 09:25 am

So what is your post-camp impression of the Oklahoma camp? What did your camper think?

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Post by Guest 18/06/12, 10:22 am

whatsup wrote:So what is your post-camp impression of the Oklahoma camp? What did your camper think?

Awesome, she enjoyed every minute of the camp. The schedule although was intense with three games on saturday game sunday, mon, tues, wed. She was not concerned, more about a concerned parent worried about injury!

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Post by InaB 19/06/12, 04:54 pm

My DD loved the camp and in spite of the long days, enjoyed both the training and the games. This was her first away camp and she is ready to go again.
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Post by MaggieMaggie 21/06/12, 09:16 pm

my2cents wrote:
Gunners wrote:
my2cents wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Gunner9 wrote:Just curious. If ODP is diminished, where are the kids being called into NT camps from?

There is zero connection between USYSA ODP and the US Soccer National Team(s).

Really? This article would suggest otherwise.



46 of 49 players called into April’s U-17 and U-20 Women’s Youth National Team camps bring US Youth Soccer ODP experience
April 21, 2011 10:00 PM
U-17 WNT Camp Roster
U-20 WNT Camp Roster

The United States Under-17 and Under-20 Women's National Teams will come together for a training camp at The Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif., running from April 23-30, along with the Under-23 team. A total of 49 players have been called in for the U-17 and U-20 camps and 46 of those 49 players have come through the US Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program (US Youth Soccer ODP). Between the three teams, a collection of 72 of the top players in the country will be together for the weeklong camp.
http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/46_of_49_players_called_into_april%e2%80%99s_u-17_and_u-20_women%e2%80%99s_youth_national_team_camps_bring_us_youth_soccer_odp_experience/?CategoryId=14489&Year=2011&pg=2

Yes, really. I suggest you read your post a little more closely.



The two organizations have no official ties. Participation in USYSA ODP does not affect a players chances for selection to the US Soccer National Team, no more or less than their participation in club soccer or high school soccer would. I imagine the percentages for those are even higher than ODP! Wink

Never said there was an offcial tie between them. There is a huge connection between participating in ODP and the odds of making the National pools since most national pool players have that on their resume. That is like saying there is no connection between playing club and going on to play college. There may be no official ties between colleges and clubs but there is definitely a connection as you won't play college above DIII without club experience.

Claire was the alternate last year and got the call up this year. Way to go for a great keep and very nice girl!!! See article below:


The U.S. Under-17 Women's National Team will come together for the first time since winning the 2012 CONCACAF U-17 Women's Championship in Guatemala in mid-May, as U.S. head coach Albertin Montoya has called up 26 players for a training camp being held at the Olympic Training Center in Chula Vista, Calif., from June 9-16.

Montoya named all 20 players that helped the USA win all five games at the Women's World Cup qualifying tournament without allowing a goal, defeating Panama 7-0 in the semifinal to earn a berth to the 2012 FIFA U-17 Women's World Cup in Azerbaijan and then downing Canada 1-0 in the championship game. Forward Amber Munerlyn scored the winning goal in the title game.

Those players also include forward Summer Green, who set a U.S. record for most goals in a single qualifying tournament by pounding in 12 over the five matches.

Wheatley, a Solar Chelsea and North Texas ODP player who has made several previous appearances at U.S. Soccer camps, is one of six players — four field players and two goalkeepers — being added to that group, almost all of whom have previous experience in training camps with the U.S. team.

The young Americans are scheduled for two domestic training camps (including this one) and one foreign trip before the third FIFA Women's World Cup for U-17 women that will be held from Sept. 22-Oct. 13. U.S. U-17 WNT captain Morgan Andrews, a rising senior from Milford, N.H., was recently named the Gatorade Girls' High School Soccer Player of the Year.

Congratulations, Claire, and good luck at camp!
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