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Post by soccerstand on 16/01/13, 05:06 pm

RANK SCHOOL CONFERENCE
1 Plano West 5A
2 Flower Mound Marcus 5A
3 Highland Park 4A
4 Southlake Carroll 5A
5 The Colony 4A
6 Hebron High School 5A
7 Byron Nelson 4A
8 Coppell 5A
9 McKinney Boyd 5A
10 Denton Guyer 4A
11 Flower Mound 5A
12 Wakeland 4A
13 Mckinney High 4A
14 Carrollton Creekview 4A
15 Frisco High 4A
16 Allen 5A
17 Ursuline TAPPS
18 Plano High 5A
19 Wylie 4A
20 Birdville 4A

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Post by Uncle Numanga on 17/01/13, 01:54 pm

According to who? Where did this list come from?
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Post by 97keepersdad on 17/01/13, 03:23 pm

Uncle Numanga wrote:According to who? Where did this list come from?

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Post by Gunner9 on 17/01/13, 03:39 pm

If I was a betting man, I'd say it came from someone with a 4A affiliation. cheers
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Post by soccerstand on 17/01/13, 05:29 pm

Rankings are simply the team's current record including tournaments adjusted for # OF ECNL PLAYERS, coaches, competition, grade classification of players (we don't want a lot of seniors), prior year record, etc.

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Post by Pitchmon on 18/01/13, 12:26 am

soccerstand wrote:Rankings are simply the team's current record including tournaments adjusted for # OF ECNL PLAYERS, coaches, competition, grade classification of players (we don't want a lot of seniors), prior year record, etc.

That's funny, think i will wait for espn, not the best, but at least rational. Lol
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Post by Uncle Numanga on 18/01/13, 07:21 am

soccerstand wrote:Rankings are simply the team's current record including tournaments adjusted for # OF ECNL PLAYERS, coaches, competition, grade classification of players (we don't want a lot of seniors), prior year record, etc.

That makes less sense than the actual rankings. It is pretty much left to your perception of the team's coach and competition.

By the way, ESPN no longer ranks HS teams. Sheldon Sealer, the brains behind the ESPN rankings, started his own website: http://elitesoccerreport.com/2013/01/15/girls-esr-top-50-jan-15/

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Post by Gunners on 18/01/13, 08:01 am

Came across this poll that looks to be voted on by the coaches themselves?

http://www.austintgca.com/soccer/index.html

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Post by u95g dad on 18/01/13, 01:16 pm

Gunners wrote:Came across this poll that looks to be voted on by the coaches themselves?

http://www.austintgca.com/soccer/index.html

Can't hold much weight in this poll either. Flower Mound is ranked #6. This after losing to Grapevine 0-2, Plano West 1-3, beating Boyd 1-0, and tying Northwest 0-0. Maybe the poll was from before the season started but would still question several of their rankings.

I think this just goes to show that there is not enough state wide interest in girls soccer to get an accurate ranking in place. Good thing we actually have playoffs! cheers
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Post by Guest on 18/01/13, 01:52 pm

u95g dad wrote:
Gunners wrote:Came across this poll that looks to be voted on by the coaches themselves?

http://www.austintgca.com/soccer/index.html

Can't hold much weight in this poll either. Flower Mound is ranked #6. This after losing to Grapevine 0-2, Plano West 1-3, beating Boyd 1-0, and tying Northwest 0-0. Maybe the poll was from before the season started but would still question several of their rankings.

I think this just goes to show that there is not enough state wide interest in girls soccer to get an accurate ranking in place. Good thing we actually have playoffs! cheers

Mission Sharyland is ranked on that poll as being Top 10 in state. LOL. I'm originally from that area, know that coach and even he would laugh at that. Boys soccer in that area is one thing, but the girls.... not even close, that shoots a HUGE hole in that poll.

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Post by Gunner9 on 18/01/13, 02:33 pm

That coaches association poll is notoriously innacurate. First, only members vote and not all coaches are members. Second, they try very hard not to offend anybody and include teams from every region.
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Post by Kenshi Dave on 19/01/13, 12:32 am

I think most of these rankings work off "last year" and "body of work" reputation from past years.

I doubt any of them (ranking orgs) have really figured out how many starters are back (assuming the team was good last year) and if the new starters filling in from last year's seniors are better or worse. I guess college commits and # of ECNL would also help.

Even looking at pre-season tournaments may not be fully accurate as coaches are trying to figure out the best line-ups and combinations still.

Any top 10 Texas ranking that doesn't include Southlake simply hasn't done their research.


PW prevaled against Flower Mound last week and Marcus this week, but they will have their work cut out for them against Coppell, Urs and HP in the next couple weeks. I think they open district play against McBoyd ... these will all be good tests for PW. For my money I saw Sahcse (sp?) play yesterday and I thought they were as scrappy as anyone we've played.

I'm also curious how the toughness of district schedule will shape these teams for playoffs ... I know the tough district that PW was in last year (Marcus, Flower Mound, Allen and Hebron) really got us ready for the playoffs.
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Post by Busby Babes on 19/01/13, 08:25 am

I can say for a fact that the list is flawed with major errors.
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Post by TNT on 19/01/13, 09:05 am

soccerstand wrote:Rankings are simply the team's current record including tournaments adjusted for # OF ECNL PLAYERS, coaches, competition, grade classification of players (we don't want a lot of seniors), prior year record, etc.

"# of ECNL PLAYERS", I would like to see where "# of ECNL Players" is included as a factor in the ranking.

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Post by texflats on 22/01/13, 12:15 pm

Kenshi Dave wrote:For my money I saw Sahcse (sp?) play yesterday and I thought they were as scrappy as anyone we've played.

FWIW - "Sachse" :-)
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Post by Kenshi Dave on 22/01/13, 09:39 pm

Looking at your Icon I'd spell it Saxy
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