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Post by Tiki-taka on 15/05/13, 03:10 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GedcFMm4yCg&feature=player_embedded

Referee tosses Parent

You be the judge on what went right and wrong with this short real video. I don't remember it being posted on the forum. If it was I apologize.

The throw in was "illegal" but I can't see what the referee was doing or looking at, so since it was not called, it was "not illegal".

I assume this parent was talking "smack" all game, resulting in the last straw, so to speak. Parent = idiot and disrespectful.

Referee would have done better to not engage with the parent. Would have been better just to say you are ejected and wait to resume play until parent had exited stage left. Or even better approach coach and have coach do the ejection. Depends also on the league rules. The parent and the ref just had to get the last words in. Also Ref let it get personal.

By NTX standards, I would say this parent is mild.
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Post by Gunner9 on 15/05/13, 03:18 pm

The sidelines would be empty in NTX...
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Post by Cmon_Man on 15/05/13, 05:38 pm

Take that referee and put her in NTX- then you will have yourself a video.
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Post by Hook It on 15/05/13, 11:59 pm

Tiki-taka wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GedcFMm4yCg&feature=player_embedded

Referee tosses Parent

You be the judge on what went right and wrong with this short real video. I don't remember it being posted on the forum. If it was I apologize.

The throw in was "illegal" but I can't see what the referee was doing or looking at, so since it was not called, it was "not illegal".

I assume this parent was talking "smack" all game, resulting in the last straw, so to speak. Parent = idiot and disrespectful.

Referee would have done better to not engage with the parent. Would have been better just to say you are ejected and wait to resume play until parent had exited stage left. Or even better approach coach and have coach do the ejection. Depends also on the league rules. The parent and the ref just had to get the last words in. Also Ref let it get personal.

By NTX standards, I would say this parent is mild.
I agree this portion shows a mild parent, but no way this represents the whole situation. The ref was clearly exasperated from earlier harassment.... It does not help that she is showing her emotions and there does not appear to be a sideline ref helping.

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Post by bigtex75081 on 16/05/13, 08:53 am

I had to rewind the video a couple times to make sure I didn't miss something. I suspect this dad had been making snide/sarcastic comments to that referee long before it reached that point. The issue though is... that parent really only needed to do one thing to avoid all of this... just shut up.

NTX or not, parents on the sidelines need to leave the referee alone. Parents that talk aren't adding any value. They talk because they want to hear themselves. If you can't leave the referee alone during a game, go far enough away from the field where nobody can hear you. Or don't even be there in the first place.

The ref was in the right. More parents need to learn how to control their emotional outbursts. Parents having tantrums is an embarrassment. Grow up. Too many parents don't hold themselves to the same standards they set for their children.
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Post by txtransplant on 16/05/13, 10:08 am

bigtex75081 wrote:The ref was in the right. More parents need to learn how to control their emotional outbursts. Parents having tantrums is an embarrassment. Grow up. Too many parents don't hold themselves to the same standards they set for their children.

QFT.

Riding a referee isn't going to help your team at all. If anything, it will work against you. Run your mouth constantly at a ref and they'll likely start whistling the most minor or questionable fouls against your team. And if you're playing in a tournament, they'll notify the next set of referees that your sidelines are trouble and you'll be losing calls right out of the gate.

I find it amazing how many parents fail to realize how detrimental they can be to their child's team.
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Post by soccrnut on 16/05/13, 11:24 am

Tiki-taka wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GedcFMm4yCg&feature=player_embedded

Referee tosses Parent

You be the judge on what went right and wrong with this short real video. I don't remember it being posted on the forum. If it was I apologize.

The throw in was "illegal" but I can't see what the referee was doing or looking at, so since it was not called, it was "not illegal".

I assume this parent was talking "smack" all game, resulting in the last straw, so to speak. Parent = idiot and disrespectful.

Referee would have done better to not engage with the parent. Would have been better just to say you are ejected and wait to resume play until parent had exited stage left. Or even better approach coach and have coach do the ejection. Depends also on the league rules. The parent and the ref just had to get the last words in. Also Ref let it get personal.

By NTX standards, I would say this parent is mild.

That ref should have stated her point and been done. the more you talk as a ref; the more you lose!
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Post by NTXSjunkie on 16/05/13, 11:38 am

Tiki-taka wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GedcFMm4yCg&feature=player_embedded

Referee tosses Parent

You be the judge on what went right and wrong with this short real video. I don't remember it being posted on the forum. If it was I apologize.

The throw in was "illegal" but I can't see what the referee was doing or looking at, so since it was not called, it was "not illegal".

I assume this parent was talking "smack" all game, resulting in the last straw, so to speak. Parent = idiot and disrespectful.

Referee would have done better to not engage with the parent. Would have been better just to say you are ejected and wait to resume play until parent had exited stage left. Or even better approach coach and have coach do the ejection. Depends also on the league rules. The parent and the ref just had to get the last words in. Also Ref let it get personal.

By NTX standards, I would say this parent is mild.

Perfect example of what is wrong with youth soccer in the US. It's all about win win win. Parents get mad at bad calls, and give referees lip because they think the bad call is going to cost their team the game.

It should be about development and enjoying the game... especially at a U10 game. The only thing these kids what are they going to remember? The outcome of that game or the experiences they have during their time playing...

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Post by 007shaken on 16/05/13, 12:03 pm

soccrnut wrote:

That ref should have stated her point and been done. the more you talk as a ref; the more you lose!

Very true. I have noticed a disturbing trend, particularly among the young AR's, in engaging in "justification" banter with the spectators. Not at all part of the training.
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Post by Blank77 on 16/05/13, 12:08 pm

Why should the ref of done or said anything, even stating their point? You don't talk with spectators, or explain the calls (well maybe to the girls or offender, but not their parents). You officiate the game, that is what you are paid to do. If you are thin skinned and are bothered by comments from the parents' area, you address the coach and have him deal with his parents.
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Post by midfieldersdad on 16/05/13, 03:41 pm

Tiki-taka wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GedcFMm4yCg&feature=player_embedded

Referee tosses Parent

You be the judge on what went right and wrong with this short real video. I don't remember it being posted on the forum. If it was I apologize.

The throw in was "illegal" but I can't see what the referee was doing or looking at, so since it was not called, it was "not illegal".

I assume this parent was talking "smack" all game, resulting in the last straw, so to speak. Parent = idiot and disrespectful.

Referee would have done better to not engage with the parent. Would have been better just to say you are ejected and wait to resume play until parent had exited stage left. Or even better approach coach and have coach do the ejection. Depends also on the league rules. The parent and the ref just had to get the last words in. Also Ref let it get personal.

By NTX standards, I would say this parent is mild.

The sideline referee was absolutely right. She warned him, he lipped off, he continued to engage the ref. He used a term repeatedly to address the ref that some might consider racist or misogynistic(girl). The ref is clearly a young woman. His behavior and sportsmanship were un-gentlemanly. He showed a lack of simple courtesy as if he was entitled to criticize the official. The official is the last word in game play, we must adhere to laws of the game. File a complaint but dont be indignant or discourteous.
Now that I've said about the spectator, the referee discredited herself by not following protocol. The coach or manager should have been charged with controlling the parents. The referee lost composure and exacerbated the tension.
In fairness both the parties could have been more courteous and treated each other with more respect. So both are equally wrong, however the ref does have the power, sooooo play nice.
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Post by Lawnboy on 20/05/13, 06:50 pm

What evidence is there to suggest this man is a parent affiliated with either team currently on the pitch. An awful lot of assuming goin' on out there. Very Happy

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Post by tornado11 on 20/05/13, 09:16 pm

Very simple....the players play/the coach coaches/the ref refs/the parents support.....there should NOT ever be any crossover of roles. Period. I blame the coach....for not reigning in his/her out of control parents....just let the kids PLAY...!!

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Post by Erod on 22/05/13, 01:41 pm

The only time, in my opinion, that it is OK to verbally engage a referee (other than the typical moan or harmless short quip) is when play is reaching a dangerous level of physicality and the referee is obviously not seeing or addressing it. You have ball-watching referees that repeatedly fail to see late fouls once the ball is played.


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Post by glitterbeam on 22/05/13, 01:49 pm

The parent was out of line. I hope he feels like a big man, arguing with a young woman like that. The ref should realize that she doesn't need to justify her reasons to him. She should have told him to leave and walked away. The coach is wrong for not coming over, apologizing to the ref and telling his parent to shut up and get out.

That video would be way more interesting in NTX... but the ref wouldn't have been so upset in NTX either because she would be used to it.

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Post by Guest on 22/05/13, 01:54 pm

The coach is wrong for not coming over, apologizing to the ref and telling his parent to shut up and get out.


you think that would happen in ntx? BWAAAAAAAAAAAA! That's a hoot!

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Post by glitterbeam on 22/05/13, 01:57 pm

I do know a couple of coaches in NTX who would have done the right thing and done exactly what I said. Just because most coaches in NTX would not do it, doesn't mean it's not the right thing. Smile

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Post by MoveYourFeet on 22/05/13, 02:25 pm

silentparent wrote:The coach is wrong for not coming over, apologizing to the ref and telling his parent to shut up and get out.


you think that would happen in ntx? BWAAAAAAAAAAAA! That's a hoot!

I've seen it done to a parent before and this was in NTX.

I've also seen a coach pull one of his top players 15 minutes into a game and never put her back in because she disagreed with the ref's call and let him have for a couple of seconds. Coach pulled her immediately and never played her the rest of the game.

There are coaches out there with integrity. And this was a coach from one of the big clubs.
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Post by SD69 on 23/05/13, 11:29 am

Saw a coach in NTX screaming at his parents to STHU from across the field when they were on the refs. It got everyone's attention.
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