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Post by 2028 23/07/13, 10:38 am

To me it was all about perception. The rains came and within 15 minutes of the stop of the rain the entire tournament was cancelled. Never mind there was 3 hours of sunlight left in the day and all night. Perception to me was that they made a very rash decision. Had they waited at least until almost night fall and then called it I would have at least felt they tried. As it was it did not seem to me much effort was put into it by TD or the City. No one was getting out of their hotel agreements at that time in the evening anyway why make such a quick and rash judgment? Perception is everything and I think TD could have done a much better job at caring or at least pretending to care. Just my two cents worth.

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Post by 00scrmom 23/07/13, 10:39 am

futbollove wrote:
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futbollove wrote:Puma Cup has progressively gotten worse each year. Not surprised it has come to this. And  yeah, they could have "jumped through hoops" to finish the tourney if they had wanted to. But there was the chance  to earn some extra cash, and TL  jumped at it.

Curious to know, how did they earn extra cash? If they do what they said they would, then any cash they would have given to refs for those games should be going back to the teams.  Where else would the extra cash come from?
You just answered your own question. No ref fees= more cash

Yeah if they don't refund any money, sure that's where it will come from but I also said if they do what they said they would do then where is it coming from?? Guess we will know in a few days/weeks if they live up to their word or not. You are assuming they won't is how I'm interpreting it.
Not trying to pick a fight, just trying to understand how they will make extra money.
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Post by 00scrmom 23/07/13, 10:42 am

fun soccer wrote:
00scrmom wrote:
futbollove wrote:Puma Cup has progressively gotten worse each year. Not surprised it has come to this. And  yeah, they could have "jumped through hoops" to finish the tourney if they had wanted to. But there was the chance  to earn some extra cash, and TL  jumped at it.

Curious to know, how did they earn extra cash? If they do what they said they would, then any cash they would have given to refs for those games should be going back to the teams.  Where else would the extra cash come from?

00scrmon- you seem to be in the know with Lightning. Do you know when they will be contacting teams about the refund?

I'm not...just going off what I've been told from those I know at lightning and our manager (not with lightning). They have contact information on their website.
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Post by SD69 23/07/13, 10:44 am

A whole days field use fees should is another source of savings.
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Post by 03eagle 23/07/13, 10:46 am

futbollove wrote:
00scrmom wrote:
futbollove wrote:Puma Cup has progressively gotten worse each year. Not surprised it has come to this. And  yeah, they could have "jumped through hoops" to finish the tourney if they had wanted to. But there was the chance  to earn some extra cash, and TL  jumped at it.

Curious to know, how did they earn extra cash? If they do what they said they would, then any cash they would have given to refs for those games should be going back to the teams.  Where else would the extra cash come from?
You just answered your own question. No ref fees= more cash

Ref fees would be approx $35 per team per match. We better be getting back more than that.
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Post by 00scrmom 23/07/13, 10:48 am

soccerdad1969 wrote:A whole days field use fees should is another source of savings.

I had asked that question earlier but no one responded. Does the city charge them by the day for the field use? I assumed that but got no confirmation.
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Post by 03eagle 23/07/13, 10:55 am

soccerdad1969 wrote:A whole days field use fees should is another source of savings.

Yeah, except that the fields were used for their friendlies that they set up on Sunday.
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Post by futbollove 23/07/13, 10:57 am

00scrmom wrote:
futbollove wrote:
00scrmom wrote:
futbollove wrote:Puma Cup has progressively gotten worse each year. Not surprised it has come to this. And  yeah, they could have "jumped through hoops" to finish the tourney if they had wanted to. But there was the chance  to earn some extra cash, and TL  jumped at it.

Curious to know, how did they earn extra cash? If they do what they said they would, then any cash they would have given to refs for those games should be going back to the teams.  Where else would the extra cash come from?
You just answered your own question. No ref fees= more cash

Yeah if they don't refund any money, sure that's where it will come  from but I also said if they do what they said they would do then where is it coming from??  Guess we will know in a few days/weeks if they live up to their word or not. You are assuming they won't is how I'm interpreting it.
Not trying to pick a fight, just trying to understand how they will make extra money.  

You are correct, that is my assumption. I could be wrong. Only time will tell if they live up to their word.
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Post by PokerPro 24/07/13, 09:09 am

OMG...get over yourselves already....Hopefully your team will get back $75 so you can divide that among the 15 players. You can almost go buy lunch.

So they cancelled. From the biggest complainers I still haven't heard what suggestion they have or what they would have done. Please throw it out there for us because I guarantee it wouldn't be possible. For every parent (who ruin youth soccer to begin with) who has a problem with the cancellation there would be as many or more that had issues with it being moved somewhere else or rescheduled for a weekday for example. Those are city owned fields and if the city shut them down then they shut them down....GET OVER IT.

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Post by futbollove 24/07/13, 09:41 am

Poker- How about you get a clue already.
The city did not shut down the fields. And obviously the fields were playable as there were games played there on Sunday. In the past I know Puma has also been played in Cedar Hill.
Was that not an option this year? Someone who knows (this excludes you poker)
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Post by PokerPro 24/07/13, 09:47 am

Yeah...like on 2 fields Sunday....woo hooo..that'll do it.

It is HILAROUS you are so butt hurt over a stupid tournament being cancelled for rain....HILARIOUS!!!!!!

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Post by 03eagle 24/07/13, 10:15 am

PokerPro wrote:Yeah...like on 2 fields Sunday....woo hooo..that'll do it.

It is HILAROUS  you are so butt hurt over a stupid tournament being cancelled for rain....HILARIOUS!!!!!!

You are wrong. All fields were open, not just two.
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Post by textigerfan 24/07/13, 10:21 am

I think the horse is dead already.
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Post by fun soccer 24/07/13, 10:25 am

textigerfan wrote:I think the horse is dead already.

anyone have a update on refunds?
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Post by keepsbigestfan 24/07/13, 11:24 am

fun soccer wrote:
textigerfan wrote:I think the horse is dead already.

anyone have a update on refunds?

That's a good one!!!!lol! 

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Post by textigerfan 24/07/13, 11:26 am

just heard about the possibility of pro-rated refunds a day or two ago. Nothing since.
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Post by rustynail11 24/07/13, 11:59 am

Maybe Texas Lightning decided to keep everyones money to pay the refs they had for the friendly's they at Harold Patterson on Sunday.

It is now mid week and not a single word from TL on this,  they have been taking a bashing and nothing, not a word.  Their reputation has already taken a huge hit, the longer they stay silent the worse it will get.

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Post by textigerfan 24/07/13, 12:48 pm

Good luck to all in QT...done with this one.
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Post by 03eagle 30/07/13, 12:40 pm

Anyone received a refund, yet?
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Post by Lefty 30/07/13, 01:39 pm

03eagle wrote:Anyone received a refund, yet?

Checks are all in the mail. lol! 

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Post by fun soccer 30/07/13, 01:42 pm

03eagle wrote:Anyone received a refund, yet?

Nope...nothing
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Post by 2028 30/07/13, 02:14 pm

Need to keep a copy of this thread to repost next year when registration opens for Puma Cup 2014!
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Post by Guest 30/07/13, 02:17 pm

2028 wrote:Need to keep a copy of this thread to repost next year when registration opens for Puma Cup 2014!


Nope, just do a google search and their it will be for all to see next year!

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Post by coachdom23 30/07/13, 02:56 pm

2028 wrote:Need to keep a copy of this thread to repost next year when registration opens for Puma Cup 2014!

It won't matter, TL tournaments will NOT take a hit. See the Hurst Turkey Shoots. The 2009 was a disaster and there were plenty of teams in 2010. 2010 was just as bad or worse and the 2011 & 2012 still drew lots of teams. Granted, Hurst changed their board after 2010 and worked hard to make up for those nightmares. I contend that even if they would have had the same crew running the 2011, it would have been well attended.

There are not enough teams with that good of a memory, or that are on these forums, to shut down a tournament.
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Post by fun soccer 22/08/13, 09:01 am

just a follow up. I did receive partial refunds for my teams that were in the Puma Cup.
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Post by 03eagle 22/08/13, 11:22 am

fun soccer wrote:just a follow up. I did receive partial refunds for my teams that were in the Puma Cup.
How much are they refunding?
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