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Post by Interpreter on 24/01/14, 09:56 am


Heard yesterday Jesse Diaz is no longer a Coach at FCD. Is this true and anyone know why?

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Post by hooper96 on 24/01/14, 10:43 am

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Heard yesterday Jesse Diaz is no longer a Coach at FCD.  Is this true and anyone know why?  

yes, no longer with our club. Decided to leave and give up his older teams. We will miss him and which him the best in his future endeavors.

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Post by GrandTXSoccer on 24/01/14, 10:58 am

He really did a lot with that 03 team, 8 months ago they were probably a team on the bubble of being really good or dropping off quite a bit and now I'd say they are one of the top 3 teams in the 03 age group.

Good luck to him.

Any ideas who will be replacing him?

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Post by TatonkaBurger on 24/01/14, 11:23 am

Where's he headed?
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Re: JD's departure from FCD

Post by hooper96 on 24/01/14, 01:10 pm

hooper96 wrote:
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Heard yesterday Jesse Diaz is no longer a Coach at FCD.  Is this true and anyone know why?  

yes, no longer with our club. Decided to leave and give up his older teams. We will miss him and wish him the best in his future endeavors.

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Re: JD's departure from FCD

Post by 4kidsinsoccer on 11/02/14, 11:28 pm

Did JD go to another club?

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Post by BrianWilliams on 12/02/14, 08:54 am

he shows up on the Sting website as a coach

amazing - the FC Dallas Girls Youth Director leaves, and there is no chatter?

no coach with the teams he had would choose to leave (without jumping clubs with his teams)

- he was forced out
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Post by GrandTXSoccer on 12/02/14, 09:19 am

Probably because no teams moved with him, unlike when other coaches have left clubs. That alone should tell you all you really need to know about the situation.

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Post by jsullivan81 on 12/02/14, 09:30 am

Do no clubs have contracts stating they cant take teams (aka revenue) with them should they leave? Any thoughts on what teams he will get handed at Sting? They just got Higgy from the Texans too. I cant imagine he came over just for one team? Apparently he can't coach ECNL either.

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Post by bwgophers on 12/02/14, 10:12 am

Coaching roster at Sting is getting pretty full... Will be interesting to see how this all plays out over the next 1-2 years...

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Post by Lakedad on 12/02/14, 10:20 am

jsullivan81 wrote:Do no clubs have contracts stating they cant take teams (aka revenue) with them should they leave? Any thoughts on what teams he will get handed at Sting? They just got Higgy from the Texans too. I cant imagine he came over just for one team? Apparently he can't coach ECNL either.

Not sure if your fishing or not, but i'll bite.

Within Select, teams are able to move only if 100% of the players sign something like a release. If one player does not, the team will not be able to move. Academy teams are not bound by contracts and can move whenever.

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Post by jsullivan81 on 12/02/14, 10:45 am

Nope... No fishing, just curious as to how / why it works. I know thats the rule. I would just think in the interest of business a club could have a coach sign a contract stating, if you leave mid season, you can't take the team with you or something. I am not sure if that would overrule the NTSSA rules, but other businesses often have employees sign non compete clauses.

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Post by futbollove on 12/02/14, 10:49 am

Yeah but these clubs aren't businesses. They simply do it for the kids and the love of the game.
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Post by jsullivan81 on 12/02/14, 10:50 am

futbollove wrote:Yeah but these clubs aren't businesses. They simply do it for the kids and the love of the game.

Of course. Now it all makes sense.

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Post by go99 on 12/02/14, 10:55 am

jsullivan81 wrote:Nope... No fishing, just curious as to how / why it works.  I know thats the rule. I would just think in the interest of business a club could have a coach sign a contract stating, if you leave mid season, you can't take the team with you or something. I am not sure if that would overrule the NTSSA rules, but other businesses often have employees sign non compete clauses.

for a non compete clause to be valid there has to be something in it for both parties. For example bonuses and compensation packages. The golden parachute goes with the non compete. I doubt the coaches have any parachute. So who want's to give the story on JD? I thought he was supposed to be a great coach?
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Post by Till-I-Collapse on 12/02/14, 10:57 am

How can he take a select team with him mid season when all the players have signed a contract with the club?
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Post by go99 on 12/02/14, 11:21 am

he can't but they can all leave at the end of the season
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Post by jsullivan81 on 12/02/14, 11:26 am

Per the earlier post and what has recently happened in the 02 world, they can leave mid season. As long as 100% of the team goes. I'm fairly confident of that.

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Post by Guest on 12/02/14, 11:27 am

Till-I-Collapse wrote:How can he take a select team with him mid season when all the players have signed a contract with the club?

Just look four or five threads down the left hand column of this page.

http://www.txsoccer.net/t19016p70-sting-02-higginbothom#187643

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Post by bwgophers on 12/02/14, 11:39 am

Till-I-Collapse wrote:How can he take a select team with him mid season when all the players have signed a contract with the club?

Per NTSSA rules, any competitive team can submit a "Team Name Change" during the competitive year, which can change the club and/or coach that the team is affiliated with.  HOWEVER, to do this, NTSSA requires that a parent of 100% of the players on the current official NTSSA roster sign the name change form.

A player never signs a "contract" with a club or a team.  They sign a "Competitive Player Registration Form" with NTSSA, and through the process of registering a competitive team and submitting the roster with the associated Player Registration Forms, a competitive player is assigned and bound to a roster.  

Completely separate from that are the financial agreements that most clubs require the parents of a player to sign before "allowing" them to be placed on a competitive roster associated with the club.  The financial agreements are completely separate from the NTSSA roster, and NTSSA will NOT get involved in any financial issues between clubs and players.

So, even if a team succeeds in freeing itself from it's club association mid-year via a name change, legally, all of those parents are still bound by the original financial agreement that they signed with the club.  So, technically,  if the team moves mid-year, and there are families that still owe a part of their dues, if those families refuse to pay those outstanding dues to the original club, the club could come after the individual families via small claims court to try and recoup the money.  However, this usually doesn't happen, especially at the bigger clubs, because it isn't worth the time, or potential bad publicity that such a move could create, to the club.

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Post by Till-I-Collapse on 12/02/14, 01:11 pm

Things that make ya go hmmmmmm
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Post by herradura on 12/02/14, 01:59 pm

Nothing like a good old fashioned game of musical chairs…  affraid 
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Post by Lefty on 12/02/14, 04:46 pm

onlythetruth wrote:he shows up on the Sting website as a coach

amazing - the FC Dallas Girls Youth Director leaves, and there is no chatter?

no coach with the teams he had would choose to leave (without jumping clubs with his teams)

- he was forced out

Would have to know how the $ played out in both the JD and RH moves.  

Imagine that both took sizeable $ adjustments unless Sting is printing money like the Fed or they really are doing it for the love of the game and the kids.

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Post by soccersounder on 13/02/14, 09:39 am

jsullivan81 wrote:Do no clubs have contracts stating they cant take teams (aka revenue) with them should they leave? Any thoughts on what teams he will get handed at Sting? They just got Higgy from the Texans too. I cant imagine he came over just for one team? Apparently he can't coach ECNL either.

I guess we will see next year if Ryan picks up a new team(s). And his day job (TCU Assistant Coach) does not have anything to do with coaching ECNL. As a College Coach, he cannot coach High School players. So in theory, he can coach the 02s the first year of ECNL, as long as no HS Freshmen are on the team. 18 months away, so no one will even remember this thread at that time..
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Post by soccersounder on 13/02/14, 09:43 am

bwgophers wrote:Coaching roster at Sting is getting pretty full...  Will be interesting to see how this all plays out over the next 1-2 years...

So is your point a club can have too many coaches?

On a different note: Threads like this always make me laugh at us soccer parents:

-If our Club does it, it must be right

-If another Club does it, it must be wrong...
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