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What did the ref do? He said "what-the-heck did you do that for?"
What irks me is that he passed up a perfect opportunity for a teaching moment to instruct her on what kind of play warrants a foul or even yellow/red card. Kids need to know these things. When ref's elect not to call them it only teaches players to use their physicality if they so choose.
Maybe next year we'll have a Ref meet the Parents meeting. Communication and expectations need to flow both ways.
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RightWingDad wrote:I would be a fan of issuing cards to kids, U11, U10, U9 even. We played a game the other day and my dd was called for a foul. I don't think it was intentional, but it was a foul as she lifted her elbow prior to a colision.
What did the ref do? He said "what-the-heck did you do that for?"
What irks me is that he passed up a perfect opportunity for a teaching moment to instruct her on what kind of play warrants a foul or even yellow/red card. Kids need to know these things. When ref's elect not to call them it only teaches players to use their physicality if they so choose.
Maybe next year we'll have a Ref meet the Parents meeting. Communication and expectations need to flow both ways.
I think I like the idea of "Ref, meet the people that are PAYING YOU to allow their daughters get hurt during bashball" meeting.
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NoFanOfDrama wrote:RightWingDad wrote:I would be a fan of issuing cards to kids, U11, U10, U9 even. We played a game the other day and my dd was called for a foul. I don't think it was intentional, but it was a foul as she lifted her elbow prior to a colision.
What did the ref do? He said "what-the-heck did you do that for?"
What irks me is that he passed up a perfect opportunity for a teaching moment to instruct her on what kind of play warrants a foul or even yellow/red card. Kids need to know these things. When ref's elect not to call them it only teaches players to use their physicality if they so choose.
Maybe next year we'll have a Ref meet the Parents meeting. Communication and expectations need to flow both ways.
I think I like the idea of "Ref, meet the people that are PAYING YOU to allow their daughters get hurt during bashball" meeting.
You'll get it if your DD's team makes LHGCL at U11. LHGCL has mandatory "Meet the Refs" meetings early on in the fall season for all incoming U11 teams. I'm sure someone more recent can confirm, but I want to say that your team gets fined if you don't have at least 1 parent of >80% of your rostered players attend.
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bwgophers wrote:NoFanOfDrama wrote:RightWingDad wrote:I would be a fan of issuing cards to kids, U11, U10, U9 even. We played a game the other day and my dd was called for a foul. I don't think it was intentional, but it was a foul as she lifted her elbow prior to a colision.
What did the ref do? He said "what-the-heck did you do that for?"
What irks me is that he passed up a perfect opportunity for a teaching moment to instruct her on what kind of play warrants a foul or even yellow/red card. Kids need to know these things. When ref's elect not to call them it only teaches players to use their physicality if they so choose.
Maybe next year we'll have a Ref meet the Parents meeting. Communication and expectations need to flow both ways.
I think I like the idea of "Ref, meet the people that are PAYING YOU to allow their daughters get hurt during bashball" meeting.
You'll get it if your DD's team makes LHGCL at U11. LHGCL has mandatory "Meet the Refs" meetings early on in the fall season for all incoming U11 teams. I'm sure someone more recent can confirm, but I want to say that your team gets fined if you don't have at least 1 parent of >80% of your rostered players attend.
BWG, that's kinda what I was referring to. We attended that meeting last year and while it was a nice meeting with good information and some Q&A....I was poking a little fun at it because the takeaway from that meeting was "We the Refs" are gonna tell you "the soccer rookies" how this all works because you really have no clue what we go through. All I'd like to see is a little more attention given to calling fouls where kids play through the other player rather than attempting to play the ball. OK, back to work, no, wait. It's lunch time....carry on.
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RightWingDad wrote:bwgophers wrote:NoFanOfDrama wrote:RightWingDad wrote:I would be a fan of issuing cards to kids, U11, U10, U9 even. We played a game the other day and my dd was called for a foul. I don't think it was intentional, but it was a foul as she lifted her elbow prior to a colision.
What did the ref do? He said "what-the-heck did you do that for?"
What irks me is that he passed up a perfect opportunity for a teaching moment to instruct her on what kind of play warrants a foul or even yellow/red card. Kids need to know these things. When ref's elect not to call them it only teaches players to use their physicality if they so choose.
Maybe next year we'll have a Ref meet the Parents meeting. Communication and expectations need to flow both ways.
I think I like the idea of "Ref, meet the people that are PAYING YOU to allow their daughters get hurt during bashball" meeting.
You'll get it if your DD's team makes LHGCL at U11. LHGCL has mandatory "Meet the Refs" meetings early on in the fall season for all incoming U11 teams. I'm sure someone more recent can confirm, but I want to say that your team gets fined if you don't have at least 1 parent of >80% of your rostered players attend.
BWG, that's kinda what I was referring to. We attended that meeting last year and while it was a nice meeting with good information and some Q&A....I was poking a little fun at it because the takeaway from that meeting was "We the Refs" are gonna tell you "the soccer rookies" how this all works because you really have no clue what we go through. All I'd like to see is a little more attention given to calling fouls where kids play through the other player rather than attempting to play the ball. OK, back to work, no, wait. It's lunch time....carry on.
Yup. That's pretty much how the meeting goes. Would love to be there when NFOD attends to see how that goes.
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bwgophers wrote:
Yup. That's pretty much how the meeting goes. Would love to be there when NFOD attends to see how that goes.
I already went to that meeting. Essentially there were some LHGCL folks telling us that they won't tolerate any bad behavior towards the refs because they don't have enough refs to go around as it is.
Kind of a sit down, shut up, and accept what we give you mentality.
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purezen wrote:Sounds like BS to me. Guess they forgot who writes the checks!
Minor problem with that logic. Neither LHGCL or the Clubs see the need to improve or make changes to the refereeing and the resulting style of soccer as important to their goals.
From their perspective, complain all you want but what are you going to do about it?
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Lefty wrote:purezen wrote:Sounds like BS to me. Guess they forgot who writes the checks!
Minor problem with that logic. Neither LHGCL or the Clubs see the need to improve or changes to the refereeing and the resulting style of soccer as important to their goals.
From their perspective, complain all you want but what are you going to do about it?
It would be amusing if Mark Cuban were a NTX soccer mom.
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