wbgbpfan wrote:

If you are so unhappy with the situation, why don't you just go to North Texas and get your dd's recreational release and move-on so she can practice with other teams since you don't think she's accomplishing anything by juggling.

Thanks for the advice. We are familiar with the options and everything will work out at the appropriate time.

Ilik2wach wrote:

metro wrote:

arsenal9 wrote:I agree Metro , sting royal has played both Tornadoes and TFC and are on a bit of a roll right now. TFC and Revolution have yet to play each other .TFC is trying to adjust to new coach on the fly. Revolution is always tough. IMO Revolution and TFC will be playing for 3rd. Still early in the season however.

I will go out on a limb and say TFC will finish 4th and possibly 5th.

Flat 4, 2 touch soccer looks great but does not put numbers in the W column at U12, when you play teams that have 1 or more girls that will blow right past your defense if they make a mistake and they will.(IMO) Just look at FWFC Red playing with the flat 4.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Metro on this one - TFC will very likely end up in 4th or 5th by the end of the season. Without the forced coaching change, they probably would have been fighting DFW Tornados for the top spot, but now it appears that there are too many girls that do not have the same desire as before and are just playing out the string. I believe I stated in another thread that the "TFC Slide" has begun. What I meant by this is that it is now inevitable that some of the better talent on the team will leave this 2nd tier club and will be replaced by lesser talent. That didn't appear to be the direction when AW was coaching as we already had 4 - 5 "upgrades" that were expressing serious interest in joining the team if it was coached by AW. Mr. Ed will probably not attract the same level of talent and the inevitable slide has begun.
On the positive side, the TFC 98G team now has girls setting new personal bests while juggling the ball and might have some that are now challenging the TFC Blue & White girls for juggling supremacy - a focus by Mr. Ed!!

Be positive IL2W, at least now the college scholarship opportunities for your dd will be expanded to include the soccer program at clown college.

metro wrote:

arsenal9 wrote:I agree Metro , sting royal has played both Tornadoes and TFC and are on a bit of a roll right now. TFC and Revolution have yet to play each other .TFC is trying to adjust to new coach on the fly. Revolution is always tough. IMO Revolution and TFC will be playing for 3rd. Still early in the season however.

I will go out on a limb and say TFC will finish 4th and possibly 5th.

Flat 4, 2 touch soccer looks great but does not put numbers in the W column at U12, when you play teams that have 1 or more girls that will blow right past your defense if they make a mistake and they will.(IMO) Just look at FWFC Red playing with the flat 4.

Ok ... what's a "flat 4"?

Txfutboldad wrote:

metro wrote:

arsenal9 wrote:I agree Metro , sting royal has played both Tornadoes and TFC and are on a bit of a roll right now. TFC and Revolution have yet to play each other .TFC is trying to adjust to new coach on the fly. Revolution is always tough. IMO Revolution and TFC will be playing for 3rd. Still early in the season however.

I will go out on a limb and say TFC will finish 4th and possibly 5th.

Flat 4, 2 touch soccer looks great but does not put numbers in the W column at U12, when you play teams that have 1 or more girls that will blow right past your defense if they make a mistake and they will.(IMO) Just look at FWFC Red playing with the flat 4.

Ok ... what's a "flat 4"?

FLAT BACK FOUR SYSTEMS


Flat back four systems have replaced the "sweeper" system for quite some time now, in most countries. Certain countries have mandated this style right from their youth systems to their national teams. As opposed to the old sweeper/man marking systems, flat back four (or zonal) defending offers more defensive and attacking versatility. The most common version is the classic 4-4-2, but a reincarnation of the traditional 4-3-3 is becoming popular. There are variations depending on the team strategy, such as 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1.

Flat Back Four defending requires a lot of practice due to it's lack of a constant covering defender, or sweeper. Defenders need to be careful so they don't blow the off-side trap and give up break-aways. They need to stay in constant visual and verbal contact. They need to automate shifting, forward, sideways and covering movements. When it works, it's beautiful, when it doesn't, it's ugly.

metro wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

metro wrote:

arsenal9 wrote:I agree Metro , sting royal has played both Tornadoes and TFC and are on a bit of a roll right now. TFC and Revolution have yet to play each other .TFC is trying to adjust to new coach on the fly. Revolution is always tough. IMO Revolution and TFC will be playing for 3rd. Still early in the season however.

I will go out on a limb and say TFC will finish 4th and possibly 5th.

Flat 4, 2 touch soccer looks great but does not put numbers in the W column at U12, when you play teams that have 1 or more girls that will blow right past your defense if they make a mistake and they will.(IMO) Just look at FWFC Red playing with the flat 4.

Ok ... what's a "flat 4"?

FLAT BACK FOUR SYSTEMS


Flat back four systems have replaced the "sweeper" system for quite some time now, in most countries. Certain countries have mandated this style right from their youth systems to their national teams. As opposed to the old sweeper/man marking systems, flat back four (or zonal) defending offers more defensive and attacking versatility. The most common version is the classic 4-4-2, but a reincarnation of the traditional 4-3-3 is becoming popular. There are variations depending on the team strategy, such as 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1.

Flat Back Four defending requires a lot of practice due to it's lack of a constant covering defender, or sweeper. Defenders need to be careful so they don't blow the off-side trap and give up break-aways. They need to stay in constant visual and verbal contact. They need to automate shifting, forward, sideways and covering movements. When it works, it's beautiful, when it doesn't, it's ugly.

Thank you. I found this after doing some research myself. My next question is what do the other teams in D2 play?

Txfutboldad wrote:

metro wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

metro wrote:

arsenal9 wrote:I agree Metro , sting royal has played both Tornadoes and TFC and are on a bit of a roll right now. TFC and Revolution have yet to play each other .TFC is trying to adjust to new coach on the fly. Revolution is always tough. IMO Revolution and TFC will be playing for 3rd. Still early in the season however.

I will go out on a limb and say TFC will finish 4th and possibly 5th.

Flat 4, 2 touch soccer looks great but does not put numbers in the W column at U12, when you play teams that have 1 or more girls that will blow right past your defense if they make a mistake and they will.(IMO) Just look at FWFC Red playing with the flat 4.

Ok ... what's a "flat 4"?

FLAT BACK FOUR SYSTEMS


Flat back four systems have replaced the "sweeper" system for quite some time now, in most countries. Certain countries have mandated this style right from their youth systems to their national teams. As opposed to the old sweeper/man marking systems, flat back four (or zonal) defending offers more defensive and attacking versatility. The most common version is the classic 4-4-2, but a reincarnation of the traditional 4-3-3 is becoming popular. There are variations depending on the team strategy, such as 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1.

Flat Back Four defending requires a lot of practice due to it's lack of a constant covering defender, or sweeper. Defenders need to be careful so they don't blow the off-side trap and give up break-aways. They need to stay in constant visual and verbal contact. They need to automate shifting, forward, sideways and covering movements. When it works, it's beautiful, when it doesn't, it's ugly.

Thank you. I found this after doing some research myself. My next question is what do the other teams in D2 play?

Most if not all play a sweeper/man marking system or a variation of that.
FWFC Red plays a flat 4 and are the only team I know that attempts to plays it.

metro wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

metro wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

metro wrote:

arsenal9 wrote:I agree Metro , sting royal has played both Tornadoes and TFC and are on a bit of a roll right now. TFC and Revolution have yet to play each other .TFC is trying to adjust to new coach on the fly. Revolution is always tough. IMO Revolution and TFC will be playing for 3rd. Still early in the season however.

I will go out on a limb and say TFC will finish 4th and possibly 5th.

Flat 4, 2 touch soccer looks great but does not put numbers in the W column at U12, when you play teams that have 1 or more girls that will blow right past your defense if they make a mistake and they will.(IMO) Just look at FWFC Red playing with the flat 4.

Ok ... what's a "flat 4"?

FLAT BACK FOUR SYSTEMS


Flat back four systems have replaced the "sweeper" system for quite some time now, in most countries. Certain countries have mandated this style right from their youth systems to their national teams. As opposed to the old sweeper/man marking systems, flat back four (or zonal) defending offers more defensive and attacking versatility. The most common version is the classic 4-4-2, but a reincarnation of the traditional 4-3-3 is becoming popular. There are variations depending on the team strategy, such as 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1.

Flat Back Four defending requires a lot of practice due to it's lack of a constant covering defender, or sweeper. Defenders need to be careful so they don't blow the off-side trap and give up break-aways. They need to stay in constant visual and verbal contact. They need to automate shifting, forward, sideways and covering movements. When it works, it's beautiful, when it doesn't, it's ugly.

Thank you. I found this after doing some research myself. My next question is what do the other teams in D2 play?

Most if not all play a sweeper/man marking system or a variation of that.
FWFC Red plays a flat 4 and are the only team I know that attempts to plays it.

Tornados play Flat 4 90% of the time.

Ilik2wach wrote:

jokerswild wrote:Ilik2wach, Suprised to hear that you're so negative about TFC. My friends on Sting Royal thought that your team played them tough, played more of a finesse, ball control game than they had seen before from TFC. They said it was obvious that the team is still finding its way, but they were impressed.

Nice try, but not exactly what AG thought when she contacted AW following the game to ask what happened to the team. I will not hide that I have no respect on a personal level for Mr. Ed and how he has been less than forthcoming with his "explanations" to the entire TFC 98G team (girls and parents) and hides behind a statement that "it's just not appropriate to discuss". Of course it isn't "appropriate" because if the truth were known, not only would he be seen for how he completely botched the entire situation, but the "other side" in the AW hearing before North Texas would be very interested in knowing how everything played out behind the curtain. Unfortunately, I sit back and watch the unraveling of the team that AW and a few others (myself included) worked hard to build. I did give my word to Mr. Ed that I would not be involved (other than getting my dd to team events) unless Mr. Ed tries to drag me in or further disparage me. As an example, he has his TFC PR machine floating the idea that I was really the one working behind the scenes to damage AW so that I could take over the team. AW and I have had a good laugh over this one. I can keep my word but am not sure if Mr. Ed will fulfill his commitment, something he has not been able to quite accomplish to date. I wish all the girls on the team great success but can't say the same for Mr. Ed.

Metro/IL2W,
I was under the impression that AW was getting suspended from NTTSA for a year anyways and he resigned prior to that happening. Was I mislead on this?

metro wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

metro wrote:

Txfutboldad wrote:

metro wrote:

arsenal9 wrote:I agree Metro , sting royal has played both Tornadoes and TFC and are on a bit of a roll right now. TFC and Revolution have yet to play each other .TFC is trying to adjust to new coach on the fly. Revolution is always tough. IMO Revolution and TFC will be playing for 3rd. Still early in the season however.

I will go out on a limb and say TFC will finish 4th and possibly 5th.

Flat 4, 2 touch soccer looks great but does not put numbers in the W column at U12, when you play teams that have 1 or more girls that will blow right past your defense if they make a mistake and they will.(IMO) Just look at FWFC Red playing with the flat 4.

Ok ... what's a "flat 4"?

FLAT BACK FOUR SYSTEMS


Flat back four systems have replaced the "sweeper" system for quite some time now, in most countries. Certain countries have mandated this style right from their youth systems to their national teams. As opposed to the old sweeper/man marking systems, flat back four (or zonal) defending offers more defensive and attacking versatility. The most common version is the classic 4-4-2, but a reincarnation of the traditional 4-3-3 is becoming popular. There are variations depending on the team strategy, such as 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1.

Flat Back Four defending requires a lot of practice due to it's lack of a constant covering defender, or sweeper. Defenders need to be careful so they don't blow the off-side trap and give up break-aways. They need to stay in constant visual and verbal contact. They need to automate shifting, forward, sideways and covering movements. When it works, it's beautiful, when it doesn't, it's ugly.

Thank you. I found this after doing some research myself. My next question is what do the other teams in D2 play?

Most if not all play a sweeper/man marking system or a variation of that.
FWFC Red plays a flat 4 and are the only team I know that attempts to plays it.

And the results are in ...

yearbook wrote:

Ilik2wach wrote:

jokerswild wrote:Ilik2wach, Suprised to hear that you're so negative about TFC. My friends on Sting Royal thought that your team played them tough, played more of a finesse, ball control game than they had seen before from TFC. They said it was obvious that the team is still finding its way, but they were impressed.

Nice try, but not exactly what AG thought when she contacted AW following the game to ask what happened to the team. I will not hide that I have no respect on a personal level for Mr. Ed and how he has been less than forthcoming with his "explanations" to the entire TFC 98G team (girls and parents) and hides behind a statement that "it's just not appropriate to discuss". Of course it isn't "appropriate" because if the truth were known, not only would he be seen for how he completely botched the entire situation, but the "other side" in the AW hearing before North Texas would be very interested in knowing how everything played out behind the curtain. Unfortunately, I sit back and watch the unraveling of the team that AW and a few others (myself included) worked hard to build. I did give my word to Mr. Ed that I would not be involved (other than getting my dd to team events) unless Mr. Ed tries to drag me in or further disparage me. As an example, he has his TFC PR machine floating the idea that I was really the one working behind the scenes to damage AW so that I could take over the team. AW and I have had a good laugh over this one. I can keep my word but am not sure if Mr. Ed will fulfill his commitment, something he has not been able to quite accomplish to date. I wish all the girls on the team great success but can't say the same for Mr. Ed.

Metro/IL2W,
I was under the impression that AW was getting suspended from NTTSA for a year anyways and he resigned prior to that happening. Was I mislead on this?

AW had a hearing with NTX and prior to the hearing he resigned from coaching the 98's. He was given 1 year probation at the hearing not a suspension.

metro wrote:

yearbook wrote:

Ilik2wach wrote:

jokerswild wrote:Ilik2wach, Suprised to hear that you're so negative about TFC. My friends on Sting Royal thought that your team played them tough, played more of a finesse, ball control game than they had seen before from TFC. They said it was obvious that the team is still finding its way, but they were impressed.

Nice try, but not exactly what AG thought when she contacted AW following the game to ask what happened to the team. I will not hide that I have no respect on a personal level for Mr. Ed and how he has been less than forthcoming with his "explanations" to the entire TFC 98G team (girls and parents) and hides behind a statement that "it's just not appropriate to discuss". Of course it isn't "appropriate" because if the truth were known, not only would he be seen for how he completely botched the entire situation, but the "other side" in the AW hearing before North Texas would be very interested in knowing how everything played out behind the curtain. Unfortunately, I sit back and watch the unraveling of the team that AW and a few others (myself included) worked hard to build. I did give my word to Mr. Ed that I would not be involved (other than getting my dd to team events) unless Mr. Ed tries to drag me in or further disparage me. As an example, he has his TFC PR machine floating the idea that I was really the one working behind the scenes to damage AW so that I could take over the team. AW and I have had a good laugh over this one. I can keep my word but am not sure if Mr. Ed will fulfill his commitment, something he has not been able to quite accomplish to date. I wish all the girls on the team great success but can't say the same for Mr. Ed.

Metro/IL2W,
I was under the impression that AW was getting suspended from NTTSA for a year anyways and he resigned prior to that happening. Was I mislead on this?

AW had a hearing with NTX and prior to the hearing he resigned from coaching the 98's. He was given 1 year probation at the hearing not a suspension.

What did he do.....allegedly?

Curlpappa wrote:

metro wrote:

yearbook wrote:

Ilik2wach wrote:

jokerswild wrote:Ilik2wach, Suprised to hear that you're so negative about TFC. My friends on Sting Royal thought that your team played them tough, played more of a finesse, ball control game than they had seen before from TFC. They said it was obvious that the team is still finding its way, but they were impressed.

Nice try, but not exactly what AG thought when she contacted AW following the game to ask what happened to the team. I will not hide that I have no respect on a personal level for Mr. Ed and how he has been less than forthcoming with his "explanations" to the entire TFC 98G team (girls and parents) and hides behind a statement that "it's just not appropriate to discuss". Of course it isn't "appropriate" because if the truth were known, not only would he be seen for how he completely botched the entire situation, but the "other side" in the AW hearing before North Texas would be very interested in knowing how everything played out behind the curtain. Unfortunately, I sit back and watch the unraveling of the team that AW and a few others (myself included) worked hard to build. I did give my word to Mr. Ed that I would not be involved (other than getting my dd to team events) unless Mr. Ed tries to drag me in or further disparage me. As an example, he has his TFC PR machine floating the idea that I was really the one working behind the scenes to damage AW so that I could take over the team. AW and I have had a good laugh over this one. I can keep my word but am not sure if Mr. Ed will fulfill his commitment, something he has not been able to quite accomplish to date. I wish all the girls on the team great success but can't say the same for Mr. Ed.

Metro/IL2W,
I was under the impression that AW was getting suspended from NTTSA for a year anyways and he resigned prior to that happening. Was I mislead on this?

AW had a hearing with NTX and prior to the hearing he resigned from coaching the 98's. He was given 1 year probation at the hearing not a suspension.

What did he do.....allegedly?

involuntary player release.....allegedly

metro wrote:

Curlpappa wrote:

metro wrote:

yearbook wrote:

Ilik2wach wrote:

jokerswild wrote:Ilik2wach, Suprised to hear that you're so negative about TFC. My friends on Sting Royal thought that your team played them tough, played more of a finesse, ball control game than they had seen before from TFC. They said it was obvious that the team is still finding its way, but they were impressed.

Nice try, but not exactly what AG thought when she contacted AW following the game to ask what happened to the team. I will not hide that I have no respect on a personal level for Mr. Ed and how he has been less than forthcoming with his "explanations" to the entire TFC 98G team (girls and parents) and hides behind a statement that "it's just not appropriate to discuss". Of course it isn't "appropriate" because if the truth were known, not only would he be seen for how he completely botched the entire situation, but the "other side" in the AW hearing before North Texas would be very interested in knowing how everything played out behind the curtain. Unfortunately, I sit back and watch the unraveling of the team that AW and a few others (myself included) worked hard to build. I did give my word to Mr. Ed that I would not be involved (other than getting my dd to team events) unless Mr. Ed tries to drag me in or further disparage me. As an example, he has his TFC PR machine floating the idea that I was really the one working behind the scenes to damage AW so that I could take over the team. AW and I have had a good laugh over this one. I can keep my word but am not sure if Mr. Ed will fulfill his commitment, something he has not been able to quite accomplish to date. I wish all the girls on the team great success but can't say the same for Mr. Ed.

Metro/IL2W,
I was under the impression that AW was getting suspended from NTTSA for a year anyways and he resigned prior to that happening. Was I mislead on this?

AW had a hearing with NTX and prior to the hearing he resigned from coaching the 98's. He was given 1 year probation at the hearing not a suspension.

What did he do.....allegedly?

involuntary player release.....allegedly

Come on, Metro......that won't sell the papers. We need more juicy details........allegedly

Pele98 wrote:

metro wrote:

Curlpappa wrote:

metro wrote:

yearbook wrote:

Ilik2wach wrote:

jokerswild wrote:Ilik2wach, Suprised to hear that you're so negative about TFC. My friends on Sting Royal thought that your team played them tough, played more of a finesse, ball control game than they had seen before from TFC. They said it was obvious that the team is still finding its way, but they were impressed.

Nice try, but not exactly what AG thought when she contacted AW following the game to ask what happened to the team. I will not hide that I have no respect on a personal level for Mr. Ed and how he has been less than forthcoming with his "explanations" to the entire TFC 98G team (girls and parents) and hides behind a statement that "it's just not appropriate to discuss". Of course it isn't "appropriate" because if the truth were known, not only would he be seen for how he completely botched the entire situation, but the "other side" in the AW hearing before North Texas would be very interested in knowing how everything played out behind the curtain. Unfortunately, I sit back and watch the unraveling of the team that AW and a few others (myself included) worked hard to build. I did give my word to Mr. Ed that I would not be involved (other than getting my dd to team events) unless Mr. Ed tries to drag me in or further disparage me. As an example, he has his TFC PR machine floating the idea that I was really the one working behind the scenes to damage AW so that I could take over the team. AW and I have had a good laugh over this one. I can keep my word but am not sure if Mr. Ed will fulfill his commitment, something he has not been able to quite accomplish to date. I wish all the girls on the team great success but can't say the same for Mr. Ed.

Metro/IL2W,
I was under the impression that AW was getting suspended from NTTSA for a year anyways and he resigned prior to that happening. Was I mislead on this?

AW had a hearing with NTX and prior to the hearing he resigned from coaching the 98's. He was given 1 year probation at the hearing not a suspension.

What did he do.....allegedly?

involuntary player release.....allegedly

Come on, Metro......that won't sell the papers. We need more juicy details........allegedly

Not a 98 parent and not affiliated with TFC, but heard this story from a 98 parent on the team and the alleged infraction sounded like BS to my unbiased ear. Just sayin.

Pele98 wrote:

metro wrote:

Curlpappa wrote:

metro wrote:

yearbook wrote:

Ilik2wach wrote:

jokerswild wrote:Ilik2wach, Suprised to hear that you're so negative about TFC. My friends on Sting Royal thought that your team played them tough, played more of a finesse, ball control game than they had seen before from TFC. They said it was obvious that the team is still finding its way, but they were impressed.

Nice try, but not exactly what AG thought when she contacted AW following the game to ask what happened to the team. I will not hide that I have no respect on a personal level for Mr. Ed and how he has been less than forthcoming with his "explanations" to the entire TFC 98G team (girls and parents) and hides behind a statement that "it's just not appropriate to discuss". Of course it isn't "appropriate" because if the truth were known, not only would he be seen for how he completely botched the entire situation, but the "other side" in the AW hearing before North Texas would be very interested in knowing how everything played out behind the curtain. Unfortunately, I sit back and watch the unraveling of the team that AW and a few others (myself included) worked hard to build. I did give my word to Mr. Ed that I would not be involved (other than getting my dd to team events) unless Mr. Ed tries to drag me in or further disparage me. As an example, he has his TFC PR machine floating the idea that I was really the one working behind the scenes to damage AW so that I could take over the team. AW and I have had a good laugh over this one. I can keep my word but am not sure if Mr. Ed will fulfill his commitment, something he has not been able to quite accomplish to date. I wish all the girls on the team great success but can't say the same for Mr. Ed.

Metro/IL2W,
I was under the impression that AW was getting suspended from NTTSA for a year anyways and he resigned prior to that happening. Was I mislead on this?

AW had a hearing with NTX and prior to the hearing he resigned from coaching the 98's. He was given 1 year probation at the hearing not a suspension.

What did he do.....allegedly?

involuntary player release.....allegedly

Come on, Metro......that won't sell the papers. We need more juicy details........allegedly

Beyond what I said that is all I know(and care to know). Anything else would be rumor and speculation.