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Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

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Post by GrandTXSoccer on 31/03/14, 04:53 pm

Three weeks to go and still nothing really is settled when it comes to that 10th and final spot, same goes for the 18th spot.

Mathematically I believe the top 8 are safely into DI for next year and Cosmos probably only needs two more points to secure their spot and with two games left on the schedule against teams ranked lower than them you have to think they will get it done, however if they somehow go 0-3 then there’s a chance two teams could pass them but it would be a long shot.  After that though it really is a crap shoot for that 10th and final spot in DI, although like some others have said the big winner might be the team that comes in 11th and gets to have some level of success next year instead of getting beat up week after week next year.

So let’s take a look at the teams with a chance and what they have left.
LP Rush:  Three tough games remain, all three are winnable games but at best they are 50/50 propositions.  Losing to Sting West last week was a tough one as a win would have given them a nice 4 pt cushion over the teams nipping at their heels. Obviously they control their own destiny since they are the team with the one pt lead, plus they face two of the teams still fighting for that final spot (FWFC and Fever). With their win or nothing results so far winning 2 of 3 might not be enough however If they win against Cosmos this weekend that could make things interesting if Cosmos did end up losing their final three games and Rush could win just one of their other two games. I THINK that would give them the tiebreaker over Cosmos.

Fever: One point down with two toss up games and one probable win, if they win all three then they are in at #10 at least since their last game is against LP Rush and the last time they played Fever beat them 2-0, I believe. They too hold their destiny in their own hands.

FC Dallas Red: Sitting one pt out of 10th like Fever with three very winnable games left on the schedule. If the other FCD teams didn’t also have some big games left on their schedules then I might be inclined to think they might move some players around to help them make DI and have three teams qualify but I don’t think that will happen. They can win their next three games and still not make it in if Fever wins their final three and Cosmos earns two more points since both Fever and Cosmos would hold tie breakers over them in the head to head matchups. (I think that’s how that tie breaker would work but I haven’t read to indepth yet to know for sure).

FWFC: Had the hardest schedule with six games to go, have the hardest schedule with 3 games to go. They need to win at least two of their final three games and two of them are against Sting Hilton and FCD Prem, they might be able to pull off an upset of Sting Hilton but FCD Prem has been playing some really good soccer as of late so that would be a huge upset. However even if they win all three then they are sitting at 25 points and still on the outside looking in if Fever and FCD Red win their three remaining games (FWFC and Rush play so there’s no way they can both win their final 3 games).  Best hope, win all three and hope for a little luck.

Andromeda:  Pretty much the same scenario as FWFC, the can still get in by winning 2 of 3 but in all likelihood they have to win all three to give themselves a real shot. This Saturday’s game against Fever is huge, win that and that would obviously give them the head to head advantage over Fever and a nice little two point lead as well.

Mathematically both LP Keegan and LP Barnes are still in the hunt but it would require them both winning all their remaining games and then getting a little help from some teams above them. If they are still in it after this weeks games I’ll break them down in a little more detail.

Now for that last spot in DII it’s come down to a three team race. It’s safe to assume that D’Feeters will lose this weekend against SRSA so they aren’t going to be moving off that 12 point mark this weekend.  They need one more point for them to probably be safe. FCD South Blue has one 50/50 game and it’s this weekend against LP Keegan, after that they would be considered major underdogs against Sting Hilton and Sting G. So realistically they are looking at possibly another 3 points which would max them out at 12. Sting West has two 50/50 games and a final game against FCD Gold which will probably be a loss. So they need to find a way to get at least 5 points out of their final 3 games to give themselves a real shot at getting out of the that 19th position.

Lots of drama coming down the stretch and so many moving parts, makes it fun to watch and I’m sure very stressful for coaches and parents.

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Post by SD69 on 31/03/14, 04:59 pm

No dog in this fight, but I'll bring it up anyway. CPP anybody? Would a higher ranked team already in give up a potential loss and take one for the club by loaning a beneficial player down to Rush or Red for the next 3 weeks?
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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by JewelsBMF on 31/03/14, 07:19 pm

Just some info in tie breakers from the LH Rules:

End of Season Tie Breakers: If two (2) or more teams are tied in the number of
points, the tie will be broken as follows (except as stated in 6 below):
a. Winner of head-to-head competition.
b. Team with most number of wins.
c. Fewest goals allowed in season games.
d. Most goals scored in season games.
e. Goal differential (goals scored all season minus goals allowed all season.
Team with highest differential wins higher position in standings.
Maximum of 3 goals for or against allowed per game).
f. Best record against common opponents.
g. The team with the fewest yellow and/or red cards will finish in the higher
position. NOTE: Only points accumulated in LHGCL play (regular
season) will be used for this calculation.
h. Elimination game(s) if time permits. Opponents determined by random
draw if more than two teams are tied for one position.
i. Coin toss.
j. In the event a game or games have been forfeited, if any other of the tied
teams played the opponent that forfeited to the other tied team(s), then all
the games against that opponent will be omitted before calculating the
points and/or standings.
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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by SolarPower00 on 31/03/14, 07:36 pm

In the event two teams are tied for that 10th spot...


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(1) If two teams are tied in points to determine who shall receive a Bye(s)
into Division I and who will be relegated to Division II, only head-to- head competition will be used to break the tie. If the two teams are tied in head-to-head competition, a playoff game will be played between the two teams to determine who will receive the Bye into Division I.
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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by GrandTXSoccer on 01/04/14, 10:10 am

So if there are three teams tied I assume they use the first set of tie breakers to get it down to two teams (unless someone hold the head to head tiebreaker on the other two teams) and then the have the playoff game? That sounds like a blast.

Also I don't think anyone is going to be using the player pass over the next few weeks to help secure a spot in DI or even DII. Anything is possible though but I don't think there's going to be anything shocking.

I forgot to mention yesterday about DIII because theres some pretty interesting things going on down there too. There are only two games left and there are three teams within two points of each other for the byes to DII.

Sting Goodman (34pts) and Mutiny (32pts & in 3rd) have remaining games against teams they've beaten previously but all but one of those games were one goal matches. Should be an interesting couple of weeks.

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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by tigerdad on 01/04/14, 10:47 am

How many DIII teams move up to DII?
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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by SolarPower00 on 01/04/14, 11:04 am

Top 2 will move on to DII

 CPP has already reared it's ugly head with this group as 3 teams are in a battle for those two coveted spots
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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by Guest on 01/04/14, 01:12 pm

SolarPower00 wrote:
 CPP has already reared it's ugly head with this group as 3 teams are in a battle for those two coveted spots

Since D3 games are often on Sunday (and Wednesday - make-up games?) it gives D1 girls a good opportunity to "player pass."

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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by GrandTXSoccer on 01/04/14, 01:36 pm

My understanding is that you can't play down, only up, so there really wouldn't be any DI players dropping down to DIII. At least that's the explanation I received from a manager of a DI team. I haven't heard of it really being used all that much in the 03 age group. I know Sting shared a goalie for a game or two because of an injury or something but other than that I really haven't heard about it being used much.

Now I could be completely wrong in my understanding of the player pass rule.

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Post by purezen on 01/04/14, 01:42 pm

I believe you can legally play either direction but the intent I believe was for players to play up
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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by Guest on 01/04/14, 01:56 pm

GrandTXSoccer wrote:My understanding is that you can't play down, only up, so there really wouldn't be any DI players dropping down to DIII. At least that's the explanation I received from a manager of a DI team. I haven't heard of it really being used all that much in the 03 age group. I know Sting shared a goalie for a game or two because of an injury or something but other than that I really haven't heard about it being used much.

Now I could be completely wrong in my understanding of the player pass rule.

I believe the misconception is in the wording "play down."

You can not "play down" in age group.  You can "play up" in age group.

Within your age group I believe you can play up, play down or play sideways.

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Post by GrandTXSoccer on 01/04/14, 02:16 pm

You all are probably right, I think it should be that way where it's more based on level of competition vs strictly age group, but doesn't matter to me Smile

I think that's what makes the rule so much fun, everyone seems to have a slightly different understanding of it.

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Post by htrevino on 01/04/14, 02:52 pm

So i'm a lil new to this; so help me understand.
Who moves to D2 and D3?
Being the first year is there new openings for D3 for FALL 2014 Qualifications and the top 8 D3's move to D2 and the last 2 teams of D1 move to D2 only to take the top 2 D3 teams to D1?

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Re: Three weeks left and still plenty of teams fighting for DI

Post by GrandTXSoccer on 01/04/14, 03:38 pm

Here's what the rule book says (you all have finally made me read this thing).

U11 DI = 20 Teams
1st thru 10th place earn a BYE and remain in DI
11th thru 18th place earn a BYE and form DII
19th and 20th place earn a BYE and move to DIII

U11 DIII = 10 Teams
1st and 2nd place earn a BYE and move to DII
3rd thru 6th place earn a BYE and remain in DIII
7th thru 10th place do not receive a BYE and must re-qualify
There will be 4 open spots for DIII in QT

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