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    96Guru

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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  96Guru on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:22 am

    socrocks wrote:Need to clarify. Guru, it was me that made the comment about the Solar - Solar Red merge (not Gunners). I was not referring to a full merger of the teams (as in eliminating one of them). I was referring to a comment that I heard that for purpuses of ECNL they may be taking kids from each of the teams to form a team....rather than it be an either/or situation with Solar and Solar Red.

    I realize the eyes are about the 4th thing to go at your age but I was referring to Gunners comment about Solar Blue and Solar Gold being thrown into the mix.
    Its alright buddy, we can medicate you for your issues.

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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  socrocks on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:36 am

    96Guru wrote:
    socrocks wrote:Need to clarify. Guru, it was me that made the comment about the Solar - Solar Red merge (not Gunners). I was not referring to a full merger of the teams (as in eliminating one of them). I was referring to a comment that I heard that for purpuses of ECNL they may be taking kids from each of the teams to form a team....rather than it be an either/or situation with Solar and Solar Red.

    I realize the eyes are about the 4th thing to go at your age but I was referring to Gunners comment about Solar Blue and Solar Gold being thrown into the mix.
    Its alright buddy, we can medicate you for your issues.

    In your case, it's the brain I'm worried about.

    Solar Gold wouldn't be up for promotion to replace a team unless one of the teams above them went away. My suggesting a merge was only for ECNL, not to suggest a full merge would take place (between Solar/SR) eliminating one of the teams and thus creating an opening for a replacement team. I was not suggesting there will be an opening. My initial post was not very clear, so I'm thinking Gunners misunderstood my intent with reference to "merge."

    Guru, don't try to embarass me on here...I have the power to delete your posts if you get out of hand!

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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  TWH on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:09 pm

    I haven't a clue but spoke with a 95G Solar parent. They think they were selected by Solar because they finished tops amoung the Solar teams in league play and were put in the B bracket by ECNL. Seems to be some cloudiness as to how teams are picked for ECNL A and B brackets but I'm guessing that has something to do with the newness of the league. Should be interesting how Solar handles the 96 teams this coming year as it relates to ECNL. The 95 parent told me that they thought that FC had actually combined teams to make their ECNL team for this year and brought up some of their 96 players that were of age. Just my .02 worth.

    zygor

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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  zygor on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:57 pm

    I know you can only have one team per age group per club. That can be a problem in clubs like Solar or Lonestars where they have a couple that could represent the club well.

    It became problematic also with the Lonestar 95 girls teams. The 95 White team edged out the 95 Red team (head to head tiebreaker) for the last spot in Premier next Fall, but the 95 Red will still be their representative for the ECNL next Fall.

    Since you can carry around 24 for ECNL I think, some of the better 95 White players will guest with them.

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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  Gunners on Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:38 am

    socrocks wrote:Reading those rules, along with what you posted earlier. It appears that each year is a great big ole "subject to change."


    Seems like you're right.

    I believe National League has raised the number of teams to 16. This leads me to believe that they will have to add teams outside of the Premier League group by way of the Committee.


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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  solambaexan on Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:53 am

    [quote="Gunners"][quote="socrocks"]Reading those rules, along with what you posted earlier. It appears that each year is a great big ole "subject to change."[/quote]

    Seems like you're right.

    I believe National League has raised the number of teams to 16. This leads me to believe that they will have to add teams outside of the Premier League group by way of the Committee.[/quote]
    does this open the way for the texans to buy their way in?

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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  Gunners on Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:05 am

    solambaexan wrote:
    Gunners wrote:
    socrocks wrote:Reading those rules, along with what you posted earlier. It appears that each year is a great big ole "subject to change."


    Seems like you're right.

    I believe National League has raised the number of teams to 16. This leads me to believe that they will have to add teams outside of the Premier League group by way of the Committee.

    does this open the way for the texans to buy their way in?


    You're right, their consideration (especially now NL is 16 teams) hasn't been earned at all.


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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  ontheball on Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:04 pm

    socrocks wrote:Need to clarify. Guru, it was me that made the comment about the Solar - Solar Red merge (not Gunners). I was not referring to a full merger of the teams (as in eliminating one of them). I was referring to a comment that I heard that for purpuses of ECNL they may be taking kids from each of the teams to form a team....rather than it be an either/or situation with Solar and Solar Red.

    This is an unclear area for our whole team. I would assume the same for Solar Dallas. There has been little said, only a few months ago. We were told when they knew we would know. Possible scenario is a try out of sorts and players could be selected from both teams, or will they pick the team that finishes higher in LH. Also, who will the coach be if the teams were mixed to form the ECNL team? I don't see a dissolving of either team fully, as both teams would still play in LH.

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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  96Guru on Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:42 pm

    ontheball wrote:
    socrocks wrote:Need to clarify. Guru, it was me that made the comment about the Solar - Solar Red merge (not Gunners). I was not referring to a full merger of the teams (as in eliminating one of them). I was referring to a comment that I heard that for purpuses of ECNL they may be taking kids from each of the teams to form a team....rather than it be an either/or situation with Solar and Solar Red.

    This is an unclear area for our whole team. I would assume the same for Solar Dallas. There has been little said, only a few months ago. We were told when they knew we would know. Possible scenario is a try out of sorts and players could be selected from both teams, or will they pick the team that finishes higher in LH. Also, who will the coach be if the teams were mixed to form the ECNL team? I don't see a dissolving of either team fully, as both teams would still play in LH.


    I feel for both of you guys. Solar and SR. While other teams are getting player profiles, ECNL reservations, PL and everything else ready, y'all will be struggling with this problem.
    I am not trying to be funny but I know how much work goes into all of the travel arrangements for teams and everything else. I have been doing it for 4 years now.

    Plus, if you do one combined team, what happens if one of the ECNL tournaments falls during a league game? Would that cause a huge problem? I think it could only happen in the Fall but still a major issue to think about.

    Its funny because SR and Solar seem to be run like two separate clubs.

    Probably the best solution would just be to go with the highest place finisher in LH. Just my opinion but man that what avoid a lot of conflict and turmoil.

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    Re: Texas/California Clubs --ECNL

    Post  ontheball on Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:06 pm

    96Guru wrote:
    ontheball wrote:
    socrocks wrote:Need to clarify. Guru, it was me that made the comment about the Solar - Solar Red merge (not Gunners). I was not referring to a full merger of the teams (as in eliminating one of them). I was referring to a comment that I heard that for purpuses of ECNL they may be taking kids from each of the teams to form a team....rather than it be an either/or situation with Solar and Solar Red.

    This is an unclear area for our whole team. I would assume the same for Solar Dallas. There has been little said, only a few months ago. We were told when they knew we would know. Possible scenario is a try out of sorts and players could be selected from both teams, or will they pick the team that finishes higher in LH. Also, who will the coach be if the teams were mixed to form the ECNL team? I don't see a dissolving of either team fully, as both teams would still play in LH.


    I feel for both of you guys. Solar and SR. While other teams are getting player profiles, ECNL reservations, PL and everything else ready, y'all will be struggling with this problem.
    I am not trying to be funny but I know how much work goes into all of the travel arrangements for teams and everything else. I have been doing it for 4 years now.

    Plus, if you do one combined team, what happens if one of the ECNL tournaments falls during a league game? Would that cause a huge problem? I think it could only happen in the Fall but still a major issue to think about.

    Its funny because SR and Solar seem to be run like two separate clubs.

    Probably the best solution would just be to go with the highest place finisher in LH. Just my opinion but man that what avoid a lot of conflict and turmoil.

    Finding out sooner versus later would help some with the fear of the unknown. Personally, I would like to know from a money perspective, since we aren't talking pennies here. I may have to pimp out my man to someone. I am sure that both teams want the opportunity and that will be a possibly difficult situation for the club. I am not sure what would create more issues picking only one team, or combining the two. Once again, for our team since we have a significant number of freshman I can see how this may impact those players more than the younger ones we have. ECNL would allow those players to be seen at top venues.

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