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Texas Cup Predictions?

Post by jamestren on 26/11/14, 03:42 pm

This board is scary quiet. I guess as they age up, we tend to quiet down. Smile


Bracket 1-
1st seed - Sting G
2nd seed - DT South

Bracket 2-
1st seed - SRSA
2nd seed - TSCH Amos


In this scenario, SRSA and DT South would play each other in back to back games.

SRSA wins?

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Post by jsullivan81 on 28/11/14, 11:59 am

Looks like SRSA exacted revenge for the tie last weekend. Without their 02 team playing, did they borrow players to ensure the result was different? Or did Flanny have guest players last weekend that made that big of a difference? If I had to guess, I would go with the former and not the latter.

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Post by NoFanOfDrama on 28/11/14, 05:31 pm

jsullivan81 wrote:Looks like SRSA exacted revenge for the tie last weekend. Without their 02 team playing, did they borrow players to ensure the result was different? Or did Flanny have guest players last weekend that made that big of a difference? If I had to guess, I would go with the former and not the latter.

LOL...of course Flanagan had guest players last weekend. Sting Sanchez did as well.
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Re: Texas Cup Predictions?

Post by Koba on 28/11/14, 05:53 pm

In this weekend's Texas Cup, club player pass is allowed which should really trick up these rosters!
No limit on CPP players. Smdh!
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Post by Zizou on 28/11/14, 06:18 pm

I think in a tournament it's called guest player.

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Post by Koba on 28/11/14, 06:37 pm

I think maybe you should read the texas cup tournament rules
CPP players and guest players allowed

"The core of a roster is determined to be five players, with five or fewer guest players allowed per roster, and as many club player passes as allowable providing the maximum roster size is not exceeded."

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Post by jamestren on 28/11/14, 06:43 pm

I know everyone's on edge because of the whole guest player thing- but how is that application in this tourney? Sting has three teams in gold bracket, so they shouldn't be sharing? SRSA I assume would prefer not to have to player pass? Am I missing something?

Also, for those whining that Flanagan had guest players-- isn't it still impressive that they tied SRSA (with or without them)?

I dunno. Seems like lots of frustration around the players pass rule for sure.

I haven't been keeping current- so forgive me if I just don't have the whole story. ???

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Post by Zizou on 28/11/14, 06:52 pm

It's a tournament is my point! it an opportunity to allow player movement without criticism and complaining. Let it go!

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Post by Magic! on 28/11/14, 07:00 pm

SRSA 4
Flanagan 0

And yes SRSA had 3 guests players...from their D3 Solar team to fill in for 5 regulars who are out of town. IMO, that's the spirit of the CPP rule. Great experience for those kids.
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Post by FloridaFamily on 29/11/14, 09:43 am

Well, Jamestren nailed it. Prediction on the semis/final?
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Post by SoccerPop on 29/11/14, 09:51 am

According to the schedule they have srsa v Sting G. Why would they do 1 seed v 1 seed and 2 seed v 2 seed

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Post by kadro on 29/11/14, 09:55 am

I think they attempt to avoid rematches. Solar just played DTS

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Post by jamestren on 29/11/14, 10:05 am

Yup. Section 7, rule B of tourney rules explicitly says if two teams faced each other in bracket play, they will change the semi finals matchup. Interesting.

Amos over DT South
SRSA over Sting G (PK's?)

Finals??

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Post by FloridaFamily on 29/11/14, 10:52 am

Except, now it's changed to:
Sting v DTS
Solar v Amos
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Post by jamestren on 29/11/14, 11:03 am

I see. Sting G complained? Home cooking? Who in the world plays semis against their own bracket? I guess "tournaments discretion" means "home cooking"... Smile

No worries. We came to play the best. I think everyone knows what just happened.

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Post by Koba on 29/11/14, 11:14 am


A1 was scheduled to play B2
B1 plays A2

You can't change it during the event!
Hats off to our friends from OK for being so understanding but you don't see this kind if none sense in other NTX tournaments


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Post by FloridaFamily on 29/11/14, 11:27 am

Sting should play Amos right?
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Post by FloridaFamily on 29/11/14, 11:30 am

Never mind. You already explained that. Two teams can't play back to back games. Got it.
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Post by jamestren on 29/11/14, 11:36 am

Yes. They should. But there is a rule that says teams that meet in pool play can be swapped to ensure fresh matchups in the semi finals. Which they correctly did and changed so sting plays SRSA and Amos plays DTS (since all four teams 3-0, there really isn't much difference)... Anyway- at some point in the past hour Sting G obviously complained to avoid SRSA. So they swapped and now 1 playing 2 in each bracket. That is probably a tourney first in the history of youth soccer.


Anyway. Everyone can judge for themselves. Awfully convenient for sting G to sidestep SRSA for DTS. Shameful in my opinion.

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Post by SoccerPop on 29/11/14, 11:43 am

Technically looking at the schedule neither dts or amos played anyone in their bracket during bracket play.  I didn't look at any of the other schedules so can't speak for them. With that being the case can't really see what the big deal is with the swapping. To have the #1 seeds play each other in first round seems to be the more egregious case than swapping other teams.

And since dts just played srsa it seems better to swap the #2 seeds.

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Post by jamestren on 29/11/14, 11:54 am

Um. To counter that, Sting G and SRSA didn't play anyone either? Sting G got to play three south texas teams? I say Sting H was a better team than those 3?

What's bad is the tourney made a decision based on how they would deal with these situations and had sting G playing SRSA. The issue is home team in tourney somehow got the game changed after the fact.

It's all good though. I love that we get to play SRSA this weekend. It's great for our girls.

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Post by Soccerparent2 on 29/11/14, 12:01 pm

Jamestren,

If "it's all good", then stop posting and complaining about it.... you are the one who keeps bringing it up... in reality, you would have to probably play SRSA now or in the finals, so who cares.... You missed playing the top two teams in Bracket A to begin with, so not really a big deal. Sting G obviously had this one slanted in their favor from the beginning, there is nobody that can argue that!

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Post by FloridaFamily on 29/11/14, 12:01 pm

Yeah. Seemed like home cookin to me at first also.

But I agree, it would be more wrong for #1 to play #1 in the semi final. That's the whole reason you want to win your bracket. So you can play the #2 team right?
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Post by FloridaFamily on 29/11/14, 12:24 pm

Lol. Looks like Jamestren got it fixed. Sting v Amos again now.
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Post by jamestren on 29/11/14, 12:27 pm

Ummm. I wish I had that kind of pull. Smile. I'm relegated to posting on message boards. Just a lowly dad.

But.. Interesting they changed it a fourth time. The only thing clear at this point is the tourney doesn't really know how to interpret the seeding rules.

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