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Post by Rookie on 26/01/15, 12:51 pm

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Dallas Cosmos 03 Black
Sting 03 Hilton
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Liverpool 03 Keegan
Liverpool 03 Rush (pending)
Odyssey 03
Sting 03 Sanchez (pending)
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Post by Rookie on 29/01/15, 02:13 pm

Applied Teams
Solar Chelsea 03 (Prev FC Dallas Gold)
Dallas Cosmos 03 Black
Sting 03 Hilton
Dallas Texans 03
Liverpool 03 Keegan
Liverpool 03 Rush
Liverpool 03 Elite
Odyssey 03
Sting 03 Sanchez (pending)
Mustangs 03 Bussey (pending)
Sting 03 Skaife
Fever 03 Black
Texas Lightning 03 Plano

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Post by SoccerPop on 03/02/15, 12:34 pm

Is there an updated list?

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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by Rookie on 03/02/15, 12:48 pm

Those are your 12 teams, Pop.
An all LHGCL lineup.
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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by Relegated on 03/02/15, 06:26 pm

Rookie wrote:Those are your 12 teams, Pop.
An all LHGCL lineup.

If you go by the standings I think you get:
Cosmos, LP Keegan, LP Rush, TX Lightning
LP Elite, Sting Hilton, Sting Sanchez, Sting Skaife
Fever, Texans, Odyssey, Mustangs

Do you keep it like that or move teams around to separate the LP teams from each other and the Sting teams from each other?
Cosmos, LP Keegan, Sting Sanchez, TX Lightning
LP Elite, Texans, Odyssey, Sting Skaife
Fever, Sting Hilton, LP Rush, Mustangs
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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by Rookie on 03/02/15, 07:39 pm

Applied Teams
Solar Chelsea 03 (Prev FC Dallas Gold)
Dallas Cosmos 03 Black
Sting 03 Hilton playing up
Dallas Texans 03
FC Dallas 03 Red
Liverpool 03 Keegan
Liverpool 03 Rush
Liverpool 03 Elite
Odyssey 03
Sting 03 Sanchez
Mustangs 03 Bussey
Sting 03 Skaife
Fever 03 Black
Texas Lightning 03

Some minor changes
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Post by SoccerPop on 09/02/15, 09:11 am

When will the brackets come out?

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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by skynet on 16/02/15, 08:49 am

LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 03 GIRLS ELITE vs LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 03 GIRLS RUSH.

What was the outcome of this game? I know Liverpool won... But what was all the noise after?

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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by imasoccerfreak on 16/02/15, 01:42 pm

Heard that the ref didn't have the time right, and they played 8-9 minutes over regulation. The score was tied up to the last 30 seconds, so they should have gone to PKs. Lake Highlands officials admitted the mistake, and asked LW if he would be willing to do the shootout Monday morning. He refused.

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Post by Saul Goodman on 16/02/15, 02:00 pm

imasoccerfreak wrote:Heard that the ref didn't have the time right, and they played 8-9 minutes over regulation. The score was tied up to the last 30 seconds, so they should have gone to PKs. Lake Highlands officials admitted the mistake, and asked LW if he would be willing to do the shootout Monday morning. He refused.

I heard LW's 04 playoff game had issues with refs going into overtime play instead of straight to PK's.

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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by go99 on 16/02/15, 02:37 pm

it did but then an official cam out and stopped play and did the PK's. Really the officials have to know the rules and if the game was tied at the end of regulation then I am not sure why they would ASK the coach. The tournament should tell the coach the rules state PK's and that they will do the PK's monday and he can choose to forfeit if he likes. But if you are going to ASK then why would the coach agree to leave a game he just won up to chance
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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by Sully on 16/02/15, 02:53 pm

There was no mistake. The rules say nothing about the second half having to run exactly 25 minutes.Yes they say the halves are 25 minutes, just like the rules state that at the professional level they are 45 minutes, however anyone that knows anything about the laws of soccer know that it's up to the refs discrestion as to how much extra time he allows. According to the ref he knew how much time was left and wasn't confused. There's really nothing to complain about and no grand injustice to fix. No reason to kick PK's because the game didn't end in a tie. Both teams played until the final whistle, one team scored on their chance and the other team didn't score on their chances. That's soccer and it sucks to lose that way but that's life.




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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by go99 on 16/02/15, 03:00 pm

now see if the game ended in regulation then there is no injustice. Extra time is at the discretion of the ref. I know the 04 premiere v tx spirit game ran extremely long because we had to wait wondering when the ref was going to blow his damn whistle. So seems like there may be some sour grapes. Unless you are bringing us footage of LW passing the ref a few extra bucks to extend regulation time. Sound like the ref did a poor job of time keeping and thats it
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Post by sota34 on 16/02/15, 03:45 pm

go99 wrote:now see if the game ended in regulation then there is no injustice.  Extra time is at the discretion of the ref.  I know the 04 premiere v tx spirit game ran extremely long because we had to wait wondering when the ref was going to blow his damn whistle.  So seems like there may be some sour grapes.  Unless you are bringing us footage of LW passing the ref a few extra bucks to extend regulation time.  Sound like the ref did a poor job of time keeping and thats it

Premier/TSN game started 20 minutes late at least. prior game ran over. then ref ran 30 minute halves. was Elite/FCD 30 minute halves too? nothing in the rules stated the change to 30 minute halves.

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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by go99 on 16/02/15, 03:48 pm

nope 25 min halves and the premier/tsn seemed a little longer than 30
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Post by sota34 on 16/02/15, 03:51 pm

go99 wrote:nope 25 min halves and the premier/tsn seemed a little longer than 30

he ran 30s pretty close. may have added a minute or 2 for a couple injuries. then 2 minutes of OT

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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by go99 on 16/02/15, 03:58 pm

so basically he ran over. He didn't know his times and didn't even know there was no overtime. But at best you have a clueless ref not some grand LW conspiracy
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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by GrandTXSoccer on 16/02/15, 04:05 pm

From what I was told the halves were 25 minutes and in the second the half the ref added a little over 5 minutes of stoppage. The question comes back to if it was within the rules for the ref to add time or not. If it was then it's a nonissue, if it wasn't then LHs should have rectified the situation. The fact they didn't leads me to believe they didn't really have a leg to stand on. Makes me wonder why they were even asking for a team to give up a fairly earned result. That's Lhs for you though, these are the same folks that didn't do anything about girls throwing punches. Crazy.

Heard multiple reports of varying game times thought the age groups.

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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by Relegated on 16/02/15, 05:02 pm

Sully wrote:There was no mistake. The rules say nothing about the second half having to run exactly 25 minutes.Yes they say the halves are 25 minutes, just like the rules state that at the professional level they are 45 minutes, however anyone that knows anything about the laws of soccer know that it's up to the refs discrestion as to how much extra time he allows. According to the ref he knew how much time was left and wasn't confused. There's really nothing to complain about and no grand injustice to fix. No reason to kick PK's because the game didn't end in a tie. Both teams played until the final whistle, one team scored on their chance and the other team didn't score on their chances. That's soccer and it sucks to lose that way but that's life.

From my experience, refs have not been adding/using stoppage time in my daughter's youth soccer games.  Typically at the end of a half (whether it's 25 mins in a tourney or 30 in the league) a few parents timers go off, the AR's watch beeps and then I look at the ref who is looking at his/her wrist watch.  As long as everyone knows the correct length of the half everyone's timers seem to be going off fairly close to each other.  The ref will let the game continue for a final scoring chance adding seconds to the game, but not minutes.

With that said (typed?), I have no knowledge of any aspect of the LP v LP game.  I am just saying I have not seen stoppage time in youth soccer.
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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by Sully on 16/02/15, 05:41 pm

It happens, generally not 5 minutes worth but it happens. Most of the time it's a couple extra minutes if there have been some injuries or if the other team is purposely stalling but even then it's not an every game occurence. Unfortunately for Rush when the ref was asked he said he added stoppage time (not against the written rules of the tournament) and didn't say he made a mistake and just ran long. Once he said that he added stoppage time it's really a moot point because the ref doesn't have to give an explanation as to why, it's completely at his discretion. Heck even if he said he'd made a mistake, no tournament is going to start overturning ref mistakes, we'd never finish a tournament. I'll say it again, it sucks to lose in extra time like that, just like it sucked when Portugal scored on the US in the world cup last year in stoppage time, however it's part of the game and definitely something that coaches, players, and parents should be keenly aware of at this age.

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LP Elite vs LP Rush Game Facts for those that speculate....

Post by Mister Roboto on 17/02/15, 05:57 pm

skynet wrote:LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 03 GIRLS ELITE vs LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 03 GIRLS RUSH.

What was the outcome of this game? I know Liverpool won... But what was all the noise after?

LP Elite vs LP Rush Game Facts for those that speculate and/or tend to be emotionally one-sided....

12 min  Rush goal
25:04   Half ended
35 min  Elite goal
51 min  Rush parents and coach CH start calling for time
54 min  Elite/Rush parents and coach KB start calling for time
57 min  Elite goal
57 min  Game Called - Elite 2  Rush 1
(no visible clock stoppage need in either half)
both teams played hard

Postgame
Rush coach appeals to Ref (rules have been detailed on previous posts)
Rush coach / parents appeal to tournament coordinator
Tournament coordinator lets the Liverpool Club/coaches decide
Rush coach appeals to Elite coach KB and she declines
Rush coach appeals to Elite coach LW and he postpones decision
Elite LW confronts Rush parent at concession stand and initiates argument
Elite LW declines decision by PKs
Elite LW claims victim position to Rush family and his FB page (look it up, if your reading this I know you will....)

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Re: LHGCL Spring RoundUp U12 Applied Team List 03s

Post by go99 on 17/02/15, 06:06 pm

I don't see the big deal. Rush lost in regulation time. Any minutes added on are at the discretion of the refs. Don't like it go in and play better next time and you won't need the clock to save you.

So not sure what example was supposed to be taught here? Maybe you can explain
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Post by GrandTXSoccer on 17/02/15, 10:01 pm

I guess I still don't see why Rush thought they deserved to go to pks for a game they lost in regulation. If I were them Id really stop complaining about it, doesn't make them look to good to anyone that knows soccer.

It really is soccer 101, ref is the official time keeper, refs discretion as to how much time needs to be added, refs decisions are final. There was definitely a teaching moment and right now the more I hear about things the more it seems like it was Rush group that failed miserably. The whole alleged post game timeline should have been avoided if the coach would have simply said "girls you played great out there and we gave them everything they wanted. We had our chances and they just got one of theirs to go in at the end. I have no clue why the ref added so much extra time but in soccer that's how the game goes and why we always say to play to the final whistle. Keep your heads up, I'm proud of you, now let's go finish first in DII and get another shot at them."


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