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Re: 03's Rumbling 04 Elephants? Elite? and ECNL?

Post by ZzzKing on Sun 31 May 2015 - 23:22

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Outsidelookingin wrote:Interesting...... If there is as much movement as expected then some girls may be moving to a team that may be losing key/quality girls.  You have to choose the right team and that being a team where both player and parents fit in. (Unless the parents are like some parents I've seen- always on their phone not paying attention to their dd).  GOODLUCK to ALL, especially my dd and I!!!
The problem is that you will not know who is moving or not right now because if my dd wanted to leave, I would tell her that she has to finish her committment before we can move on. Then again, teams that may have a few spots open may be inclined to look at dds during the first two weeks of June only.

Question for the coaches: Do you want the dd that will leave their team in June with league games left or the one who sticks to the wording of the contract and finishes the season then looks? This is a tough spot to be in and can define or expose a person....
Question for Barca: Is she big and fast and skilled? Twisted Evil

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Post by Barca on Sun 31 May 2015 - 23:36

ZzzKing wrote:Question for Barca: Is she big and fast and skilled? Twisted Evil
Lol... Add Red Card agressive and that would make her a Fever or LP coveted dd... Sorry, I couldn't resist... Twisted Evil
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Re: 03's Rumbling 04 Elephants? Elite? and ECNL?

Post by Its Just Soccer on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 0:41

Simce some teams have played 17 games while others have only played 13, will standings end with points or winning percentage?

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Post by Barca on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 12:09

I wonder if this was the S--- Storm Herrdura was referring to...

So from what I understand, there will be 11 or 12 D-I teams for this coming year. Rosters should go up to 18 giving each team two extra spots. I forsee a mass purge and movement of players. This will surely leave some teams looking hard to fill low numbers on their roster such as: Fever and DT South. They may be okay with the influx of players wanting to move up to D-1.

If your not on an ECNL club team, NOW would be the time to make the jump. Don't think that the big clubs do not already have their core group together. They are always looking to solidify their Pre-ECNL team ahead of schedule. Ex: Sting USA and Solar Red who have not one but two teams to pull from. Prime landing spots are to be had at DT, FC and Feet.


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Post by herradura on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 13:20

Barca wrote:I wonder if this was the S--- Storm Herrdura was referring to...

So from what I understand, there will be 11 or 12 D-I teams for this coming year. Rosters should go up to 18 giving each team two extra spots. I forsee a mass purge and movement of players. This will surely leave some teams looking hard to fill low numbers on their roster such as: Fever and DT South. They may be okay with the influx of players wanting to move up to D-1.

If your not on an ECNL club team, NOW would be the time to make the jump. Don't think that the big clubs do not already have their core group together. They are always looking to solidify their Pre-ECNL team ahead of schedule. Ex: Sting USA and Solar Red who have not one but two teams to pull from. Prime landing spots are to be had at DT, FC and Feet.

This one: • Returning and incoming U13s through U17 will shift into two larger divisions, Division I and DIvision II. (The size of the divisions will vary based on age group) - basically, this season did not matter (if you thought it did for some reason)... Laughing
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Post by Relegated on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 13:28

So...

... LP Keegan is relegated?

... FWFC and LP Rush get promoted?

... There are 11 teams in D1?

... And the season is only 10 games?
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Post by Barca on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 13:47

Tom P. wrote:So...

... LP Keegan is relegated?

... FWFC and LP Rush get promoted?

... There are 11 teams in D1?

... And the season is only 10 games?
I think that it would be 20 games for D-1 and d-2 teams just play once.
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Post by herradura on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 13:59

That is yet to be seen. FWFC? Will they be FWFC? Their 00's went to Texans - could their be a multi team deal going down? I'm "guessing  Laughing " FEET have something up their sleeve for D1 / Pre ECNL as well.  LP Keegan / LP Rush - Does it matter? They are both LP - and the D1 team will take the stronger players.

We will know more details in 24hrs per the website and by June 15 when byes are claimed.

In the meantime, the doors are wide open as of today - so have fun, take your DD team window shopping and see how she stacks up!
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Post by RightWingDad on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 14:01

There is some ambiguity on the LHGCL site, but from this statement...

"Each team will play each other once over the course of the year"

It could mean that D1 teams only play in D1 and play the 11 or 12 games (shorter season), or does it mean D1 and D2 teams will play intermixed?

I guess we're all waiting for clarification. As someone said earlier, it's gonna be an interesting day on the forum. Stay tuned.
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Post by Its Just Soccer on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 14:13

If I understand this correctly:

... D1 will have 14 teams:

… Liverpool Keegan moves to D2.  Then the following teams had a “mathematical opportunity” to move to D1:
1. FWFC
2. Liverpool Rush
3. FCD Red
4. Sting Flanagan
5. Andromeda

…D2 will have 15 teams:
1. Liverpool Keegan
2. The remaining five D2 teams
3. Nine D3 teams

… Warriors gets relegated

If all that is correct, what about the top PPL teams who were hoping to move into D3?


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Post by Relegated on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 14:23

Its Just Soccer wrote:If I understand this correctly:

... D1 will have 14 teams:

… Liverpool Keegan moves to D2.  Then the following teams had a “mathematical opportunity” to move to D1:
1. FWFC
2. Liverpool Rush
3. FCD Red
4. Sting Flanagan
5. Andromeda

…D2 will have 15 teams:
1. Liverpool Keegan
2. The remaining five D2 teams
3. Nine D3 teams

… Warriors gets relegated

It was my understanding that only 1 team would have been promoted from D2 to D1.  So FWFC had that spot almost locked up.  LP Rush had the "mathematical opportunity" to catch them.

The other teams you included only had the chance to get to second place in D2 and I don't think that would have been enough.
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Post by Its Just Soccer on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 14:26

I guess I didn't understand. I thought 2 teams would be promoted. Thanks.

If that is the case, then D1 will have 11 teams and D2 will have 18 teams?

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Post by RightWingDad on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 14:37

Its Just Soccer wrote:If that is the case, then D1 will have 11 teams and D2 will have 18 teams?

If this is how it works out, and there is no "inter-league play" then what a short season D1 teams will have...but hey, think of all the extra tournaments they could play in. Ouch says Mr. Wallet.
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Post by kadro on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 14:39

Tom P. wrote:
Its Just Soccer wrote:If I understand this correctly:

... D1 will have 14 teams:

… Liverpool Keegan moves to D2.  Then the following teams had a “mathematical opportunity” to move to D1:
1. FWFC
2. Liverpool Rush
3. FCD Red
4. Sting Flanagan
5. Andromeda

…D2 will have 15 teams:
1. Liverpool Keegan
2. The remaining five D2 teams
3. Nine D3 teams

… Warriors gets relegated

It was my understanding that only 1 team would have been promoted from D2 to D1.  So FWFC had that spot almost locked up.  LP Rush had the "mathematical opportunity" to catch them.

The other teams you included only had the chance to get to second place in D2 and I don't think that would have been enough.

I agree with:
1 Going up:D2 FWFC plus LP Rush(with calculations)
D3 relegation of Solar Nero, Solar Royal, Tx Lightning, and Warriors was already determined mathematically

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Post by Warriors03 on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 14:48

Email states two divisions for U13. My guess is 15 teams in D1 (if the mathematical calculation is correct) and 15 for D2. Agree that relegation of Solar Nero, Solar Royal, Tx Lightning, and Warriors was already determined mathematically leaving 4 open spots next year at QT.
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Post by Relegated on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 14:54

Its Just Soccer wrote:I guess I didn't understand. I thought 2 teams would be promoted. Thanks.

If that is the case, then D1 will have 11 teams and D2 will have 18 teams?

At U13, D1 is supposed to drop to 9 teams.  2 teams get relagated, but only 1 gets promoted in.

I think it happens again at U15.  At that age and above LHGCL only has 8 D1 teams.
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Post by herradura on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 15:05

As of this year, the rules are all changing, Tom P.
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Post by Barca on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 15:07

herradura wrote:That is yet to be seen. FWFC? Will they be FWFC? Their 00's went to Texans - could their be a multi team deal going down? I'm "guessing  Laughing " FEET have something up their sleeve for D1 / Pre ECNL as well.  LP Keegan / LP Rush - Does it matter? They are both LP - and the D1 team will take the stronger players.

We will know more details in 24hrs per the website and by June 15 when byes are claimed.

In the meantime, the doors are wide open as of today - so have fun, take your DD team window shopping and see how she stacks up!
I believe that FWFC would be a prime team pick up for one of the Big-5. CN also coaches boys which would be a better move for him to go with DT than to go with the FEET. The only problem is that they practice way south of I-20 and I would guess that DT wants a presence in the north. It would seem like a more logical process to have DT pick up Rush or Elite. Feet on the other hand could focus on picking up Rush-Elite or FWFC because they just want a D-1 presence not sure they care about what side of town they reside in (see the CN caveat above).
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Post by Barca on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 15:15

kadro wrote:
Tom P. wrote:
Its Just Soccer wrote:If I understand this correctly:

... D1 will have 14 teams:

… Liverpool Keegan moves to D2.  Then the following teams had a “mathematical opportunity” to move to D1:
1. FWFC
2. Liverpool Rush
3. FCD Red
4. Sting Flanagan
5. Andromeda

…D2 will have 15 teams:
1. Liverpool Keegan
2. The remaining five D2 teams
3. Nine D3 teams

… Warriors gets relegated

It was my understanding that only 1 team would have been promoted from D2 to D1.  So FWFC had that spot almost locked up.  LP Rush had the "mathematical opportunity" to catch them.

The other teams you included only had the chance to get to second place in D2 and I don't think that would have been enough.

I agree with:
1 Going up:D2 FWFC plus LP Rush(with calculations)
D3 relegation of Solar Nero, Solar Royal, Tx Lightning, and Warriors was already determined mathematically
Bwgoophers is reading it the same on another tread. The wording would imply that LP Rush and FWFC are the only two teams moving into D-1 with LP Keegan falling out and DT Scott staying due to mathematical calculations. That makes an 11 Team D-1 group.
The number of games played is the question and at this point, who cares.
I want to know which of the Indy's moving up and/or currently in D-1 will fall prey to DT and/or Feet.
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Post by HotShot36 on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 15:24

Barca wrote:
kadro wrote:
Tom P. wrote:
Its Just Soccer wrote:If I understand this correctly:

... D1 will have 14 teams:

… Liverpool Keegan moves to D2.  Then the following teams had a “mathematical opportunity” to move to D1:
1. FWFC
2. Liverpool Rush
3. FCD Red
4. Sting Flanagan
5. Andromeda

…D2 will have 15 teams:
1. Liverpool Keegan
2. The remaining five D2 teams
3. Nine D3 teams

… Warriors gets relegated

It was my understanding that only 1 team would have been promoted from D2 to D1.  So FWFC had that spot almost locked up.  LP Rush had the "mathematical opportunity" to catch them.

The other teams you included only had the chance to get to second place in D2 and I don't think that would have been enough.

I agree with:
1 Going up:D2 FWFC plus LP Rush(with calculations)
D3 relegation of Solar Nero, Solar Royal, Tx Lightning, and Warriors was already determined mathematically
Bwgoophers is reading it the same on another tread. The wording would imply that LP Rush and FWFC are the only two teams moving into D-1 with LP Keegan falling out and DT Scott staying due to mathematical calculations. That makes an 11 Team D-1 group.
The number of games played is the question and at this point, who cares.
I want to know which of the Indy's moving up and/or currently in D-1 will fall prey to DT and/or Feet.

Wouldn't Sting Flanagan also have "a mathematical opportunity to gain promotion" putting them in the new D1 group? They currently have 23 points with 5 games left on the table.  If they would've won them all and the two in front of them didn't get any more points (FWFC with 37 points and Rush with 32 points), they could have ended up with 38 points.  I could be wrong but isn't that what the statement "a mathematical opportunity to gain promotion" means?
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Post by RightWingDad on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 15:39

Hot Shot, using that logic you'd have to also include FCD Red in the D1 group making it 14 teams.
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Post by Till-I-Collapse on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 15:41

Mathematically it would be what's Its Just Soccer said with 14 in D1.


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Post by HotShot36 on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 15:59

RightWingDad wrote:Hot Shot, using that logic you'd have to also include FCD Red in the D1 group making it 14 teams.

FCD Red has 23 points with only 4 games left (12 possible points) putting them at a possible max of 35. That would still put them behind FWFC's current total of 37 points. I left them out because normally only 1 gets promoted from D2 to D1. Rush and Flanny are the only teams who could have potentially caught FWFC. Again, I could be wrong. Hopefully they go with some sort of even split...14 in D1 and 15 in D2.
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Post by Barca on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 16:00

Till-I-Collapse wrote:Mathematically it would be what's Its Just Soccer said with 14 in D1.
Magic number for d-2 was set by FWFC at 37. They are in.

LP Rush 32 pts plus 12 points max (4 games left)= 44 points. In

FCD 23 points plus 12 pts (4 games)= 35 which is below FWFC (only 1 was supposed to go up). Out

Sting F 23 points plus 15 pts (5 games)= 38 points. In

Andro 21 points plus 12pts (4 games)= 33 points. Out

So based off of my fuzzy am I smarter than a 5th grader math,
FWFC
LP Rush
Sting F. (good catch)

Are moving up to D1 which gives D1 a total of 12 teams.
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Post by Its Just Soccer on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 16:08

Barca wrote:
Till-I-Collapse wrote:Mathematically it would be what's Its Just Soccer said with 14 in D1.
Magic number for d-2 was set by FWFC at 37. They are in.

LP Rush 32 pts plus 12 points max (4 games left)= 44 points. In

FCD 23 points plus 12 pts (4 games)= 35 which is below FWFC (only 1 was supposed to go up). Out

Sting F 23 points plus 15 pts (5 games)= 38 points. In

Andro 21 points plus 12pts (4 games)= 33 points. Out

So based off of my fuzzy am I smarter than a 5th grader math,
FWFC
LP Rush
Sting F. (good catch)

Are moving up to D1 which gives D1 a total of 12 teams.

I believe Barca is the Math Champ!

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Post by Till-I-Collapse on Mon 1 Jun 2015 - 16:11

Makes sense.  Wonder  How movement and byes play into this?  Going to get crazy around here lol
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