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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by dadof3 on Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:46 pm

How many games would be a "good" number? 12? If so, that means 13 teams in D1...which would include SG, Bus, Aztecs, SWW, and DTN. If that happened they could make a 15 game, 16-team D2 which could include 5 D2 teams, 7 D3 teams and 4 QT teams...If a team folds, either fewer teams or more QT teams??

I agree, that is a lot of money to play for a 12 game season...I like the idea of pre-season friendlies...just 2 games (maybe a Saturday and Sunday) against 2 teams near you in final season "rank", and NOT play those two in fall??

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by MrMiyagi on Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:23 pm

Miyagi's theory,

 My theory D1 no relegation
D3 ,1-4 promoted to new D1.
D3 ,5-6 stay in D 2. Definitely no requalifying.
7-10 maybe  get bumped up along with 5-6 to create the new top 6 in the new D2.
That would create the final four spots that incoming team's would qualify for.
 Not sure if there are enough quality teams to qualify for 8 new D2 positions.
4 qualifying spots sounds more reasonable.
Numbers may shift. Maybe 12 in D1. Maybe 12-16 in D2.
 I Can't wait to find out.
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by MrMiyagi on Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:40 pm

Wait. Current 1-4 D2 move up. Then current D3 1-4 move up to begin theory
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by MrMiyagi on Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:49 pm

Wait. Miyagi confused.
Current D2 5-10 becomes new D2 top 6.
Current D3 top two become new D2 7and 8 .
Then rest qualify for remaining new D2 spots.
Got it?
Okay
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by InaB on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:11 pm

So, adding to another theory proclaimed earlier. So you take the top points holders in D2 and D3 and move them to D1 (1 and 2 respectively). So that would put Solar Gold, Mustangs Bussey, Fever and FWFC (Soon to be Texans) moving up which would make 13. Any other conjectures?
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by Havingfunyet on Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:57 am

Not a chance they will put previous D3 teams in D1. I think the only questions is do they add more d2 teams to d1 to even out the 2 groups.

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by InaB on Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:39 am

OK, back to drawing board. They take enough D2 teams to make 12 in D1 and the rest in D2 including QT winners in D2. Very Happy
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by textigerfan on Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:53 am

"Fun", I believe that is probably what will happen. Basically top half of D2 and up will probably be D1 and the rest D2. For Fever and FWFC I guess they get a pat on the back for their efforts. All they did was avoid relegation. But, there is not a scenario where everyone can be fully satisfied in this circumstance.
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by Havingfunyet on Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:56 am

I think we are saying the same thing.

INAB: So you take the top points holders in D2 and D3 and move them to D1.

This will not happen.

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by InaB on Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:05 am

Hi Having, I know the scenario of D2 and D3s moving to D1 wouldn't happen, but it is always fun to think of wild scenarios! Razz
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by Havingfunyet on Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:51 am

understood! Thanks Inab

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by KnKsDad on Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:48 pm

New divisions posted. IMO, this situation ends up reflecting what some of us have been concerned with, allowing an organization with obvious biases to arbitrarily decide what teams will get placed where under the guise (sp?) of mathematical probabilities.

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by sportsnerd on Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:49 pm

The divisions are out....

It looks like the took top 6 from D2 into D1...

Not sure why Feretti made the cut. they had been eliminated from promotion. The only thing i can think of is they wanted it even at 14 teams in each division.

3 teams come into D2 via QT as Meja recieved a bye.

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by textigerfan on Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:04 pm

Probably right "sportsnerd". Oh well, know the hand dealt. Time to move on down the road.
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by intrinsic on Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:16 pm

KnKsDad wrote:New divisions posted. IMO, this situation ends up reflecting what some of us have been concerned with, allowing an organization with obvious biases to arbitrarily decide what teams will get placed where under the guise (sp?) of mathematical probabilities.

All teams that had a chance for promotion were promoted. And then an additional team or two were added, based on the standings, so that there were enough teams for all teams in a division to play each other once. If that is what you mean by "arbitrary", then you are correct.

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by textigerfan on Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:23 pm

What I wonder is there any chance a D2 team/s can get promoted to D1 for 2016/17 year?
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by MrMiyagi on Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:31 pm

Whatever brings the highest quality soccer is good for me. Some of these teams are so afraid to lose that it hampers them from actually trying to win a game.
1-0
0-0
0-1 etc.
I. Think bottom 3 in D1 should get relegated. Mix it up . Make it more entertaining.
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by textigerfan on Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:34 pm

Bottom 3 meaning 8-15 that will be D1 next year...correct. Bring up top 3 in next year's D2?
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by MrMiyagi on Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:49 pm

Three down from D1
Three up from D2
Maybe bottom 4 from D2 requalify.
Would help influx of new talent play at higher levels.
That would leave a base pool of seven teams in D2.
With three D1 teams moving down would help D2s play against proven D1 opponents.
Also with 4 D2s requalifying they would prove worthy of Lake Highlands. They'd show it vs new qualifying teams. And new qualifiers would show they belong as well.
Thus higher quality
Everybody wins.
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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by textigerfan on Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:58 pm

By the time this all gets straightened this age group will be about done anyway. LOL
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D1 and D2 teams/slots

Post by Soccerdood on Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:47 pm

Based on the published rules, below is my best guess. 

   
TEAM NAMECOUNTLH DivActionReason
STING CENTRAL 00G (PARKER)1D1ByeEarned
SOLAR CHELSEA ELITE 00G - PL2D1ByeEarned
ANDROMEDA FC 00G - PL3D1ByeEarned
STING 00 ROYAL (BROWN) - PL4D1ByeEarned
FC DALLAS 00G BLUE5D1ByeEarned
STING 00G (FLANAGAN) - PL6D1ByeEarned
SOLAR 00 G7D1ByeMathematically not relegated
STING NORTH 00 GARRETT8D1ByeMathematically not relegated
SOLAR CHELSEA 00G GOLD9D1PromotedMathematically could have earned promotion
MUSTANGS 00G Bussey10D1PromotedMathematically could have earned promotion
Lady Aztecs G0011D1PromotedMathematically could have earned promotion
STING WEST 00 (WEST)12D1PromotedMathematically could have earned promotion
STING FERRETTI1D2ByeEarned
DALLAS TEXANS North2D2ByeEarned
DALLAS TEXANS FW3D2ByeEarned
FC DALLAS 00G EAST4D2ByeEarned
D'FEETERS 00 PATULEA5D2ByeEarned
FC DALLAS YOUTH 00G Premier6D2ByeEarned
FEVER UNITED7D2PromotedMathematically could have earned promotion
FORT WORTH FC 00G White8D2PromotedMathematically could have earned promotion
SPORTING FC 00G RED9D2PromotedMathematically not relegated
STING CENTRAL 00G ROYAL (MARTIN)10D2PromotedMathematically not relegated
MUSTANGS F.C.11D2PromotedMathematically not relegated
GUNNERS 00G12D2PromotedMathematically not relegated
MEJA NORTH 00G13D2PromotedMathematically not relegated
 14D2QT QualifierOpen slot
 15D2QT QualifierOpen slot
 16D2QT QualifierOpen slot
FLASH 00G  Relegated to QTMathematically relegated
LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA 00G   Relegated to QTMathematically relegated
STING DALLAS 00 Bruno  Relegated to QTMathematically relegated

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by KnKsDad on Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:03 pm

intrinsic wrote:
KnKsDad wrote:New divisions posted. IMO, this situation ends up reflecting what some of us have been concerned with, allowing an organization with obvious biases to arbitrarily decide what teams will get placed where under the guise (sp?) of mathematical probabilities.

All teams that had a chance for promotion were promoted. And then an additional team or two were added, based on the standings,  so that there were enough teams for all teams in a division to play each other once. If that is what you mean by "arbitrary", then you are correct.

My DD's team did get promoted - but to a glorified D3 in my own personal opinion. Yeah, it's the "had a chance for promotion" and "an additional team or two were added" that I have a problem with. Btw, are you a representative of LH?

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by Soccerdood on Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:12 pm

KnKsDad wrote:
intrinsic wrote:
KnKsDad wrote:New divisions posted. IMO, this situation ends up reflecting what some of us have been concerned with, allowing an organization with obvious biases to arbitrarily decide what teams will get placed where under the guise (sp?) of mathematical probabilities.

All teams that had a chance for promotion were promoted. And then an additional team or two were added, based on the standings,  so that there were enough teams for all teams in a division to play each other once. If that is what you mean by "arbitrary", then you are correct.

My DD's team did get promoted - but to a glorified D3 in my own personal opinion. Yeah, it's the "had a chance for promotion" and "an additional team or two were added" that I have a problem with. Btw, are you a representative of LH?



No, I am not with LH and no input from them. Just a Dad with a best guess based only on the rules published. 

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Re: 2014/2015 LHGCL season is over

Post by InaB on Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:48 pm

OK people, I think in the end, they did the best they could given the circumstances. If LH had taken the top teams from D2 and 3 that would have been unfair to the teams who have already worked their tails off to get into or stay in D2. (I know, I know, some of you feel you should have started in D1 to begin with). However, they took an even split of teams giving each division 14 total.

Sorry for those of you who earned a spot in the next division up from D3 but now don't have the recognition and distinction you feel you deserve. Kind of like winning a tournament only to find out that everyone got a trophy for taking part that was identical to the one you got.

It will be interesting to see what kind of relegation scheme they have for next year. It will also be interesting to see what they do with the player pass rule given the structure change.

As they say, this is the hand we have been dealt, so put your chips in and let's get ready to rumble. Congratulations to all the teams who are still in the battle for the coming year.

Best of luck to those teams who must face the blistering heat of QT.

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