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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by soccerisfun on 21/07/15, 08:54 am

Gotsoccer aside - I think the 3rd place teams in brackets A and B are likely better than the second place teams (and possibly winners) of brackets C and D.

That theory will be tested in week 2 when C#1 plays A#2 and D#1 plays B#2

But in the end - win and you are in.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by SD34t#Soccer on 21/07/15, 09:05 am

Using the Youth Soccer rating websit.....

Not much difference:
Bracket A 74, 40, 32, 37
Bracket B 25, 41, 26, 76
Bracket C 66, 72, 58, 57
Bracket D 77, 35, 59, 49

Straight Averages:
Bracket A 45.8
Bracket B 42
Bracket C 63.3
Bracket D 55

Drop off the 4th seed in each pool, straight average:
Bracket A 36.3
Bracket B 30.7
Bracket C 60.3
Bracket D 47.7

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by Looking04 on 21/07/15, 09:44 am

douchebag wrote:League Rankings for Last Year 2014-15

PPL better watch out for APL teams. I got my money on APL teams all the way through.

Bracket A
AYSES 04 GIRLS BLACK
7 D2PPL

DALLAS COSMOS
04G BLACK
5 D2PPL

FC DALLAS YOUTH
04G CENTRAL
7 D1PPL

STING HARR 04 DALLAS
1 D1PPL

Bracket B
FC DALLAS YOUTH
04G WHITE
4 D1PPL

FC PREMIER 04G
9 D1PPL

SPARTA FC 04G
1 D1APL

VELOCITY ELITE FC
VELOCITY
3 D3PPL

Bracket C
AMERICAS FC
04G / F: INTERN
2 D1APL

AYSES 04 GIRLS GOLD
19 D1PPL

CELTIC SC
CELTIC SC 04G MAC
14 D1PPL

KERNOW STORM FC 04G
3 D1APL

Bracket D
ANDROMEDA FC
04G WEST
18 D1PPL

NORTH TEXAS FUTBOL
NTFC 04
4 D1PPL

ROCKWALL FUTBOL
ROCKWALL FU
1 D2PPL

TEXAS LIGHTNING
04 GIRLS VA
4 D1APL


Well, you did a good job listing the teams and where they placed in their leagues, but I missed your pics.  Are you really picking against your own team?

On second thought, aren't you the one who said we should all just disregard LP Elite's results and ranking because they don't belong to an ECNL club?

Weren't you also the person saying all the board comments should be private?

You have a lot of opinions on 10 and 11 year-old girls soccer for a person whose daughter graduated 2 years ago.  So you would have us believe that you have no vested interest, but just like to watch and rank 04 and 05 girls soccer?   Evil or Very Mad

Or maybe you are not as removed from this as you would like us to think.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by Guest on 21/07/15, 10:09 am

Thanks for the worthless trivia, but these stats are meaningless. Five LH teams lost over half their roster or blew up. That is a lot of displaced talent. Most of these teams trying to qualify for LH picked up 2-5 new players, including mid level D1-D3 players. A couple of the top teams from last year lost their best players. Case in point, Sting Harr got whacked last weekend playing against Plano teams they previously beat or tied. Expect the unexpected, save your time and math skills.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by CBTeamworks on 21/07/15, 10:25 am

Has LHGCL published a list of teams that satisfied the N+1 as well as the roster minimums and are therefore set for the league?

I've heard Sting Angell didn't make which would free up a spot for another Sting team.

I've heard TX Spirit lost a bunch which would probably mean they didn't satisfy the N+1 to retain their bye. As long as they get a minimum number of players and make as a team do they get placed into a division within LHGCL? I'm assuming so since they're not in the QT.

What is the date that a team who previously qualified for the league has to satisfy the qualifications?

We all assume that there are four spots but are there perhaps even more if there are teams that didn't make and they were independents who don't have another club team to fill the bye?
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by SD69 on 21/07/15, 10:31 am

CBTeamworks wrote:Has LHGCL published a list of teams that satisfied the N+1 as well as the roster minimums and are therefore set for the league?

I've heard Sting Angell didn't make which would free up a spot for another Sting team.

I've heard TX Spirit lost a bunch which would probably mean they didn't satisfy the N+1 to retain their bye. As long as they get a minimum number of players and make as a team do they get placed into a division within LHGCL? I'm assuming so since they're not in the QT.

What is the date that a team who previously qualified for the league has to satisfy the qualifications?

We all assume that there are four spots but are there perhaps even more if there are teams that didn't make and they were independents who don't have another club team to fill the bye?
A team doesn't have to satisfy the N+1 rule to stay in the league. They do have to satisfy the rule to be GUARANTEED a bye in the same division.

Regarding Spirit, I would assume that AC would be given the benefit of the doubt with his record last year even though he may not satisfy the N+1 qualification.
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by SickofStupidity on 21/07/15, 10:36 am

CBTeamworks wrote:Has LHGCL published a list of teams that satisfied the N+1 as well as the roster minimums and are therefore set for the league?

I've heard Sting Angell didn't make which would free up a spot for another Sting team.

I've heard TX Spirit lost a bunch which would probably mean they didn't satisfy the N+1 to retain their bye. As long as they get a minimum number of players and make as a team do they get placed into a division within LHGCL? I'm assuming so since they're not in the QT.

What is the date that a team who previously qualified for the league has to satisfy the qualifications?

We all assume that there are four spots but are there perhaps even more if there are teams that didn't make and they were independents who don't have another club team to fill the bye?


Communication?  From LHGCL?  That almost sent coffee out of my nose!  Such comedy this morning!

Sting Angell made.

Tx Spirit did not satisfy N+1

I believe final rosters are due Aug 7.

Any word on CPP?  They have been sitting on that for a couple months as well.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by CBTeamworks on 21/07/15, 10:41 am

Thanks for the replies. Is Liverpool Rednapp (replaced by another Liverpool team) the only LHGCL team that didn't make?

If final rosters aren't due until after the QT then is it safe to assume that if there end up being more teams that don't make that LHGCL would select additional teams from the QT or would they just go with a smaller league?
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by SD69 on 21/07/15, 10:47 am

Lady Aztecs and LP St John didn't make. LP Raisbeck moved up and DT White doesn't have to re-qualify as a result.
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by tigerdad on 21/07/15, 10:48 am

N+1 is not a LHGCL rule. There have been some teams that didn't make, but those were replaced with other club teams and the ones that lost a lot of players just filled in their rosters with new players. That is allowed, but does give the league the option of placing them at a different level (doubtful this will happen)

We know there are only 4 spots because that is what the qualifying format says which has been published. 16 teams playing for 4 open spots in D3.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by dreadpirateroberts on 21/07/15, 11:29 am

Why is that doubtful? Why should a team keep a D1 bye if 90% of the players are new?

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by SickofStupidity on 21/07/15, 11:39 am

Doubtful because there are likely not enough committee members at LH with the stones to drop a team to a lower division (especially from one of the larger clubs).

LH is run by the large clubs - they will protect their own.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by VultureVic on 21/07/15, 11:40 am

[quote="CBTeamworks"]Thanks for the replies. Is Liverpool Rednapp (replaced by another Liverpool team) the only LHGCL team that didn't make?

If final rosters aren't due until after the QT then is it safe to assume that if there end up being more teams that don't make that LHGCL would select additional teams from the QT or would they just go with a smaller league?[/quo


I think they start letting the ppl d-2 and d-3 teams in next year.....

I have my money on Kornhole Stormin this year.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by soccerjack on 23/07/15, 12:47 pm

Sort of looks like the results were as everyone expected. Who won the America's/Ayses game?
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by CBTeamworks on 23/07/15, 02:16 pm

I heard America's 1-0 over AYSES Gold

BTW, 25 minute halve with 5 minute water breaks compared to typical games of 30 minute halves equates to 40 minute QT games compared to a typical 60 minute game. Helps to explain the low scores.
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by KnKsDad on 23/07/15, 03:06 pm

Why are they listed under U-11?

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by CBTeamworks on 23/07/15, 03:34 pm

KnKsDad wrote:Why are they listed under U-11?

They don't turn into U-12 until August 1st (LHGCL QT meeting).
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by KnKsDad on 23/07/15, 03:49 pm

It through me off for about half a second and only required a couple more mouse clicks, but Tut and Puma had this age group listed as U-12 already. And looking back, last years QT didn't have a U-10 listed, the new qualifiers started off as U-11 so I guess they turned earlier last year for some reason.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by db10 on 23/07/15, 09:22 pm

Did I see it correctly, a PPL D3 team in the QT? Any reason besides "hey let's try it"? Not really the happiest tournament to roll the dice in.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by Looking04 on 24/07/15, 12:23 pm

db10 wrote:Did I see it correctly, a PPL D3 team in the QT? Any reason besides "hey let's try it"? Not really the happiest tournament to roll the dice in.

In all fairness, given that no teams were relegated from LH and the best PPL team took a LH slot, the competition level is substantially down this year. Probably wouldn’t take but a couple players to put them at a level that they could make a run against some of the PPL D1/D2 teams playing.

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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by SocDad on 24/07/15, 12:34 pm

jibjab2 wrote:
db10 wrote:Did I see it correctly, a PPL D3 team in the QT? Any reason besides "hey let's try it"? Not really the happiest tournament to roll the dice in.

In all fairness, given that no teams were relegated from LH and the best PPL team took a LH slot, the competition level is substantially down this year.  Probably wouldn’t take but a couple players to put them at a level that they could make a run against some of the PPL D1/D2 teams playing.


Just a thought....I what would teams look like, if you remove the "Best & Worst" player off each of the PPL1/2 teams.....How much more competitive would the games be compared to the rest of the teams in the entire PPL league? Surprised
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by soccerjack on 24/07/15, 12:50 pm

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jibjab2 wrote:
db10 wrote:Did I see it correctly, a PPL D3 team in the QT? Any reason besides "hey let's try it"? Not really the happiest tournament to roll the dice in.

In all fairness, given that no teams were relegated from LH and the best PPL team took a LH slot, the competition level is substantially down this year.  Probably wouldn’t take but a couple players to put them at a level that they could make a run against some of the PPL D1/D2 teams playing.


Just a thought....I what would teams look like, if you remove the "Best & Worst" player off each of the PPL1/2 teams.....How much more competitive would the games be compared to the rest of the teams in the entire PPL league? Surprised

That's also somewhat true for all the lh teams except the top 5-6. Lots of kickball at this age till they start playing more as a team. Feet white is a good example take those extra players they had a away and what do you have then. Twisted Evil just kidding btw. Go come back to the board...this board needs you.
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Re: LH D-3 QT 04

Post by KnKsDad on 25/07/15, 04:45 pm

Can anyone share the qualifying format for this year? I may have missed it earlier in this thread. If there are only 4 spots and they are taking top 2 in each bracket to second weekend to make two 4 team brackets, how will those brackets be ordered?

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Post by Guest on 25/07/15, 04:49 pm

KnKsDad wrote:Can anyone share the qualifying format for this year? I may have missed it earlier in this thread. If there are only 4 spots and they are taking top 2 in each bracket to second weekend to make two 4 team brackets, how will those brackets be ordered?

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0079/6485/2015_QT_Formats.pdf

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Post by KnKsDad on 25/07/15, 04:57 pm

Also, those of you above like loyalsoccermom and Naismith, just to name a couple, how could you leave out teams like FCD Central and NTFC from advancing? I know those two teams have D1 level players on their rosters, not so sure about the Cosmos and Kernow Storms of the world.

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Post by KnKsDad on 25/07/15, 05:04 pm

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KnKsDad wrote:Can anyone share the qualifying format for this year? I may have missed it earlier in this thread. If there are only 4 spots and they are taking top 2 in each bracket to second weekend to make two 4 team brackets, how will those brackets be ordered?

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0079/6485/2015_QT_Formats.pdf

Thanks. So they are taking 6 teams, thought I'd heard/read they were taking 4.

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