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Post by Heisenberg on 10/08/15, 05:47 am

Here is a link to the team listing (as of this morning not updated)...

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=47153&GroupID=462949

Looks like there will be 4 groups for the 03's. It says "for the U12's and up these games are to determine who will be in Division 3 or lower if there are enough teams to make multiple divisions".

Here's my question - who benefits by playing in this tournament? The 3 LH teams that didn't re-qualify automatically get put here, so no real reason for them to play. Would D4 & D5 teams enter to try to advance up? Maybe some rec teams who are moving to Select?

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Post by BigEnchilada on 10/08/15, 03:43 pm

It should say "All "New" U12-U19 competitive teams will automatically get placed in the lowest division of their age group "or those that did not meet the N+1 definition of returning players. *A New Team is defined as one that did not play in Chamber, Lake Highlands, PPL or API F14/S15 and (There may be an exception to this rule at the discretion of the VP of Competitive.) So the 4 LHCL teams dont get stuck in D3 or D4 unless they didnt make N+1. PPL also posts the following but its clearly wrong!

U12 Girls... U13 - Fall 2015 (03’s)
42 teams 9, 10, 9, 9, 5
Top 8 teams in Div 1 will receive a Bye.
Top 2 teams from Div 2 will be promoted to Div 1 and will receive a Bye.
Div 1 = 10 teams
Bottom team from Div 1 will be relegated to Div 2 and will receive a Bye
Teams finishing in 3rd thru 8th place will receive a Bye
The top 3 teams from Div 3 will be promoted to Div 2 and will receive a Bye.
Div 2 = 10 teams
The bottom 2 teams in Div 2 will be relegated.
All remaining teams will play in the PT to determine Divisions.
Any vacant spots will be assigned at the discretion of the VP of Competitive.

In D1 with SG no longer, SD and D3 Andro going to classic, that leaves 2 D1 spots for 4 classic D3 teams (unless they didnt make N+1) or 2 decide to go to APL. Wonder if everyone gets shifted down?
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Post by Heisenberg on 11/08/15, 10:14 am

Sounds like the PPL tournament schedule will be released today @ 2pm

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Post by BigEnchilada on 12/08/15, 07:35 pm

So the PPL tourney shows only 2 of the 4 teams from girls classic. FCDE and SaoPaolo. Does that mean the other 2 teams (solar and warriors) got the PPL D1 spots vacated by SGarrett and NTFC?
FCDE and SP didn't make N+1?
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Post by Adrenalinetx on 12/08/15, 07:47 pm

Warriors probably went to Arlington

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Post by layinlow on 12/08/15, 08:31 pm

Teams from Classic don't get byes into 1 or 2. They have to play in the placement. PPL promotes from within not from the outside.

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Post by BigEnchilada on 12/08/15, 09:37 pm

If that's the case 2 spots open in D1. Does then FMU (Triumph Royale) and Aztecs go to D1 and Spirit and Meja go back to D2? Meja isn't in the PPLQT.
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Post by HereForTheConvo on 12/08/15, 11:03 pm

Triumph Royle already has their D1 bye as they finished 2nd in PPL D2 last year. I think the other thread "PPL Landscape" takes a good shot at laying out how things will fall out here in a week or two.

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Post by 03soccermomtx on 13/08/15, 10:09 am

I thought Solar is Sao Paulo.

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Post by layinlow on 13/08/15, 10:11 am

Anyone know what happened with the NTFC in the FCD East bracket. Looks like they're not in now. The other teams only play 2 games.

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Post by 03soccermomtx on 13/08/15, 10:12 am

Solar Chelsea Llamas was not in QT so guessing they got bumped to LH from some of the open spaces from teams folding.

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Post by Heisenberg on 13/08/15, 10:23 am

Here is my prediction of the 9 teams getting in (5 group winners and 4 wild cards)...

Group winners:
Sao Paulo
Andro West
FC Dallas East
FC Dallas Black
Celtic

Wild cards:
Eclipse
High Plains Drifters
TX Spirit Central
RFC

Since the Warriors are not participating in the PPL QT, where do they go....automatically to the lowest division?

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Post by Adrenalinetx on 13/08/15, 11:42 am

I believe each bracket winner will open in ppl 3 and fc dallas east should walk away with it.

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Post by Guest on 13/08/15, 08:11 pm

BIGENCHILADA wrote:If that's the case 2 spots open in D1. Does then FMU (Triumph Royale) and Aztecs go to D1 and Spirit and Meja go back to D2?  Meja isn't in the PPLQT.

The Meja team was Texas Fury at King Tut. Not sure where they are. Some teams that I thought would be there aren't (i.e. Warriors). Be interested to see where some teams pop up. I guess Arlington could be an option as someone else suggested.

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Post by Heisenberg on 14/08/15, 05:43 am

Toe-punch wrote:
BIGENCHILADA wrote:If that's the case 2 spots open in D1. Does then FMU (Triumph Royale) and Aztecs go to D1 and Spirit and Meja go back to D2?  Meja isn't in the PPLQT.

The Meja team was Texas Fury at King Tut.  Not sure where they are.  Some teams that I thought would be there aren't (i.e. Warriors).  Be interested to see where some teams pop up.  I guess Arlington could be an option as someone else suggested.

Texas Fury would/should end up in D2.  Here are what 1 & 2 should look like, and my prediction for 3 & 4....

Division 1:
- Colleyville Evo
- DT Red
- LP Shankly
- Gremio
- Wichita Falls Xpress
- Lady Aztecs
- Triumph FC - Royle
- Sting Larry
- GSSC Thunder Black
- Texas Thunder

Division 2:
- FC Dallas North
- LP Callaghan
- Sting Shepard
- Texas Spirit
- Texas Fury
- FC Dallas WTX
- Sting Central Rojas
- Legacy FC
- Manchester 03
- Hurst United

Division 3:
- FC Dallas East
- Sao Paulo
- FC Dallas Black
- Andro West
- Eclipse
- Celtic
- High Plains Drifters
- Rockwall FC
- Texas Spirit Central

Division 4:
- Elite FC
- FC Dallas White
- Velocity FC
- Storm FC
- Lightning
- FC Frisco Xtreme
- FC F orce E S S
- FC Dallas Silver
- FC Dallas WTX Young
- Mustangs Wilson

Noticeably MIA: Warriors, Texas Lonestars, NTFC, NTFC Green, Phoenix FC, Dallas United, HPSA Scots

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Post by BigEnchilada on 15/08/15, 12:02 pm

So where's the other solar team relegated from lhclassic?
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Post by Adrenalinetx on 15/08/15, 01:13 pm

Solar Lamas got a bye after all.

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Post by HereForTheConvo on 15/08/15, 03:20 pm

Grapevine is saying Warriors got a PPL D2 bye. So, it sounds like the LH D3 teams that didn't get back in during qualifying probably land in D2.

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Post by 03soccermomtx on 15/08/15, 06:07 pm

Is that true? The other two teams (Sao Paulo and FC Dallas East) are on the PPL tournament this weekend. I thought that was for no better than D3

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Post by Adrenalinetx on 15/08/15, 07:04 pm

that can't be right

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Post by Zeko2 on 15/08/15, 07:12 pm

If the Warriors have N+1, they most likely got a bye. I think last year, in the 02's, two of the relegated LH teams had N+1 and they both received byes into PPL 2. Probably the same case here, and, most likely, the other relegated teams have to go to qualifying because they didn't have N+1.

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Post by Adrenalinetx on 15/08/15, 07:24 pm

So for PPL is the N+1 75 or 50%?

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Post by Zeko2 on 15/08/15, 07:52 pm

I think it's half of last years roster plus 1. So if you had 16 kids last year, would need 9 to return to team

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Post by BigEnchilada on 15/08/15, 08:18 pm

Solar got a bye to what division? D1 or D2?
Warriors took the spot of andro that qualified lh classic and took the d2 spot NTFC would have been relegated to?
Dunstan qualified and garret and NTFC are no more, who goes to D1- with 3 spots open? Solar, Triumph (FMU) and Aztecs?
Warriors go to D2 and who else? Spirit or Meja (fury)? Spirit is already in the PPL QT.
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Post by Guest on 15/08/15, 11:28 pm

Heisenberg has it laid out above. That should be correct for D1. Not sure how adding the Warriors will affect D2. Triumph (FMU) already had a bye into D1 with Andro. Someone will take Andro's spot. Likely your Lady Aztecs have been saved from relegation.

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