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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by adufresne on 19/01/16, 10:54 pm

MrRogers wrote:
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MrRogers wrote:
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adufresne wrote:What's sad is that all 4 NTX teams won their brackets and DTS won the whole thing(CONGRATS!!!) and it's all over shadowed by a bunch of heathens. No offense but I was there. We were playing right beside them against another SoCal team. There's really no need to interact with anyone that's not on your sideline. Just my 2 cents. Cmon man! Stay classy!

I disagree... Addressing anyone's kids directly on the field in a negative much less threatening manner is SURE to solicit a justified response from any parent. Sure, maybe they should go and "tell" the ref or coach, but personally, that's not going to be my first response.


You disagree? Obviously, you disagree. To your point, if someone addresses my kid or any other kid on my kids team then I'm going to address them as well. But eyeball to eyeball. Not standing on the sideline screaming profanity and sticking my middle finger up in front of a bunch of 12 yr old girls. I saw what happened. I heard most of what happened in the Murietta game. It was a little embarrassing. Ironically, I was commending your team at the exact moment that the guy was ejected. It's really none of my business, but I can respect SOAP for mentioning it. Doubt it was "sour grapes" but more hoping this behavior would be reconsidered at future events. This team is too good to be tarnished by continuous ridiculous behavior.

Ok, I'll step in one more time.

This is a LIE.

I can't comment on the finger other than to say I did not see it. I will say for 1000% certainty there was ZERO profanity screamed from ANY of DTS side to any other parents.

For you to not have been on our sideline, and facing the opposite watching your kids, funny how you caught the finger.

Anyhow to SOP and Liverpool parents, again, our parents were upset at the CA parents and felt they were taunting our girls that entire game. Any excessive celebration caught in the moment by a couple of ours was directed at these parents and not yours.


Hey buddy, I have no reason to LIE about it. Most of us saw it. We were distracted by all of the antics going on behind us. Our game was all but over anyway. I was talking to several of the parents from the Murietta team. Again, ironically praising DTS. If you want to defend the behavior then that's your deal, but it did happen.

Let's be VERY CLEAR here.

I didn't say there were no antics. You said the DTS parent was screaming profanity. This is total crap.

Our COACH is on the same sideline... the SIDE JUDGE is on the same side. This side judge initiated ZERO action toward our parents. Action was ONLY started with the other team cried to the ref after INSULTING our players DIRECTLY on the field.

Again, your statement about said parent "Screaming profanity toward other parents in front of kids" is total crap. That is all I am saying.

In BOTH cases Involving the SAME team it was the SAME CA team that initiated the problem. It's nice knowing NTX teams have out backs. Right!

What would you have done if a parent told your 12 year old DD to "Watch your back number X" or "You suck" after your DD missed a free kick?

Sad. You only have HALF the story yet you seem to make absolute observations.


You seemed to have missed my point. I don't have HALF of any story. I'm not trying to hijack the thread here. I did "have your back". That's why I was talking to those guys. All I'm saying is let the girls play soccer and cut the crap. It's not worth it. It's a disgrace to your DD, the coach(who is awesome), the club, and NTX soccer.

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by MrRogers on 19/01/16, 11:04 pm

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MrRogers wrote:
adufresne wrote:
MrRogers wrote:
adufresne wrote:
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I disagree... Addressing anyone's kids directly on the field in a negative much less threatening manner is SURE to solicit a justified response from any parent. Sure, maybe they should go and "tell" the ref or coach, but personally, that's not going to be my first response.


You disagree? Obviously, you disagree. To your point, if someone addresses my kid or any other kid on my kids team then I'm going to address them as well. But eyeball to eyeball. Not standing on the sideline screaming profanity and sticking my middle finger up in front of a bunch of 12 yr old girls. I saw what happened. I heard most of what happened in the Murietta game. It was a little embarrassing. Ironically, I was commending your team at the exact moment that the guy was ejected. It's really none of my business, but I can respect SOAP for mentioning it. Doubt it was "sour grapes" but more hoping this behavior would be reconsidered at future events. This team is too good to be tarnished by continuous ridiculous behavior.

Ok, I'll step in one more time.

This is a LIE.

I can't comment on the finger other than to say I did not see it. I will say for 1000% certainty there was ZERO profanity screamed from ANY of DTS side to any other parents.

For you to not have been on our sideline, and facing the opposite watching your kids, funny how you caught the finger.

Anyhow to SOP and Liverpool parents, again, our parents were upset at the CA parents and felt they were taunting our girls that entire game. Any excessive celebration caught in the moment by a couple of ours was directed at these parents and not yours.


Hey buddy, I have no reason to LIE about it. Most of us saw it. We were distracted by all of the antics going on behind us. Our game was all but over anyway. I was talking to several of the parents from the Murietta team. Again, ironically praising DTS. If you want to defend the behavior then that's your deal, but it did happen.

Let's be VERY CLEAR here.

I didn't say there were no antics. You said the DTS parent was screaming profanity. This is total crap.

Our COACH is on the same sideline... the SIDE JUDGE is on the same side. This side judge initiated ZERO action toward our parents. Action was ONLY started with the other team cried to the ref after INSULTING our players DIRECTLY on the field.

Again, your statement about said parent "Screaming profanity toward other parents in front of kids" is total crap. That is all I am saying.

In BOTH cases Involving the SAME team it was the SAME CA team that initiated the problem. It's nice knowing NTX teams have out backs. Right!

What would you have done if a parent told your 12 year old DD to "Watch your back number X" or "You suck" after your DD missed a free kick?

Sad. You only have HALF the story yet you seem to make absolute observations.


You seemed to have missed my point. I don't have HALF of any story. I'm not trying to hijack the thread here. I did "have your back". That's why I was talking to those guys. All I'm saying is let the girls play soccer and cut the crap. It's not worth it. It's a disgrace to your DD, the coach(who is awesome), the club, and NTX soccer.

I am just setting things straight. You said there was screaming profanity and there was none. I would appreciate you withdrawing that comment because the facts matter.

Again, I ask (which you dodged earlier), what would YOU do if a parent on the other team told your DD to "Watch your back" or "you suck" after she missed a kick?

I am not justifying anything, but verbally abusing another teams kids by parents is sure to get a reaction 90% of the time on any team. I am sure you agree. IF our parents would have "told" the refs perhaps that CA parent would have been tossed first. It just didn't go down that way.


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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by adufresne on 19/01/16, 11:17 pm

MrRogers wrote:
adufresne wrote:
MrRogers wrote:
adufresne wrote:
MrRogers wrote:
adufresne wrote:


You disagree? Obviously, you disagree. To your point, if someone addresses my kid or any other kid on my kids team then I'm going to address them as well. But eyeball to eyeball. Not standing on the sideline screaming profanity and sticking my middle finger up in front of a bunch of 12 yr old girls. I saw what happened. I heard most of what happened in the Murietta game. It was a little embarrassing. Ironically, I was commending your team at the exact moment that the guy was ejected. It's really none of my business, but I can respect SOAP for mentioning it. Doubt it was "sour grapes" but more hoping this behavior would be reconsidered at future events. This team is too good to be tarnished by continuous ridiculous behavior.

Ok, I'll step in one more time.

This is a LIE.

I can't comment on the finger other than to say I did not see it. I will say for 1000% certainty there was ZERO profanity screamed from ANY of DTS side to any other parents.

For you to not have been on our sideline, and facing the opposite watching your kids, funny how you caught the finger.

Anyhow to SOP and Liverpool parents, again, our parents were upset at the CA parents and felt they were taunting our girls that entire game. Any excessive celebration caught in the moment by a couple of ours was directed at these parents and not yours.


Hey buddy, I have no reason to LIE about it. Most of us saw it. We were distracted by all of the antics going on behind us. Our game was all but over anyway. I was talking to several of the parents from the Murietta team. Again, ironically praising DTS. If you want to defend the behavior then that's your deal, but it did happen.

Let's be VERY CLEAR here.

I didn't say there were no antics. You said the DTS parent was screaming profanity. This is total crap.

Our COACH is on the same sideline... the SIDE JUDGE is on the same side. This side judge initiated ZERO action toward our parents. Action was ONLY started with the other team cried to the ref after INSULTING our players DIRECTLY on the field.

Again, your statement about said parent "Screaming profanity toward other parents in front of kids" is total crap. That is all I am saying.

In BOTH cases Involving the SAME team it was the SAME CA team that initiated the problem. It's nice knowing NTX teams have out backs. Right!

What would you have done if a parent told your 12 year old DD to "Watch your back number X" or "You suck" after your DD missed a free kick?

Sad. You only have HALF the story yet you seem to make absolute observations.


You seemed to have missed my point. I don't have HALF of any story. I'm not trying to hijack the thread here. I did "have your back". That's why I was talking to those guys. All I'm saying is let the girls play soccer and cut the crap. It's not worth it. It's a disgrace to your DD, the coach(who is awesome), the club, and NTX soccer.

I am just setting things straight. You said there was screaming profanity and there was none. I would appreciate you withdrawing that comment because the facts matter.

Again, I ask (which you dodged earlier), what would YOU do if a parent on the other team told your DD to "Watch your back" or "you suck" after she missed a kick?

I am not justifying anything, but verbally abusing another teams kids by parents is sure to get a reaction 90% of the time on any team. I am sure you agree. IF our parents would have "told" the refs perhaps that CA parent would have been tossed first. It just didn't go down that way.


I told you what I would do. Mr Nikes seemed to make a joke about it. The whole thing was ridiculous but that is what the referees are for. To control the game. You guys are physical. We all know that. Nothing wrong with that. The referees are supposed to control that if it is excessive. I never said the SoCal team was innocent either.

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 06:50 am

Damn SOAP....
Look what you done started.


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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by ElClassico on 20/01/16, 07:46 am

what's the old saying...you can take the DirTy South team out da South, but you cant take the DirTy out da team? Razz Razz Razz
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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 08:05 am

You can read this letter and although some details maybe accurate, you can just smell the embellishments.
And to repost it....tisk tisk tisk...
Reminds me of Kobe and Shaquille incident.
Kobe you cheat on your wife...
"So, Shaquille does it all the time..." WTF?!

When they were chanting Liverpool Liverpool on your sideline, did anyone go over and say "could y'all please chill, we don't conduct ourselves as such.."

Way to turn your back on your fellow NTX'ans...
G-Code violation...
No matter how pissed you maybe at your brother or sister, you don't let anyone outside of family join in on your rant. Period.

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by WisdomTeeth on 20/01/16, 08:38 am

There have been far too many incidents over the years with DTS for this to be just more 'exaggerations', 'lies', et cetera.  It is a vulgar and distasteful culture that shows no sign of changing anytime soon. Clearly the coach sets the tone and has ultimate responsibility for how his team and parents act.
Having said that, in Vegas they were up against a similarly unhinged group of parents in the LP Elite team. Maybe not as demonstratively loud but certainly as obnoxious. Both sidelines have had a reputation for years.
I don't see either changing anytime soon.
I believe these two teams play each other in spring league play so expect more fireworks. There's hardly anything to choose between the two teams so I actually hope the parents let the 12 year olds play without incident this time.
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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 08:48 am

WisdomTeeth wrote:There have been far too many incidents over the years with DTS for this to be just more 'exaggerations', 'lies', et cetera.  It is a vulgar and distasteful culture that shows no sign of changing anytime soon. Clearly the coach sets the tone and has ultimate responsibility for how his team and parents act.
Having said that, in Vegas they were up against a similarly unhinged group of parents in the LP Elite team. Maybe not as demonstratively loud but certainly as obnoxious. Both sidelines have had a reputation for years.
I don't see either changing anytime soon.
I believe these two teams play each other in spring league play so expect more fireworks. There's hardly anything to choose between the two teams so I actually hope the parents let the 12 year olds play without incident this time.

Not true...
most strike a complaint when they lose to DTS.
then everyone else chimes in just to stir up things.
"Biting?" really? biting? the letter states DTS players get their Suarez on, bumping the keeper....is that worth discussing?
Elite never had anything to say about the behavior...until they lost. they were too busy basking in the winning glory...
Coincidence? maybe.....

I may just be biased or maybe i know the truth from within. Outsiders and losing opponents are the most critical from what I observe.

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by soccerjack on 20/01/16, 09:16 am

I guess the male coaches of these two teams were seen dressed in drag and holding hands on the strip together wasn't that big of a story.


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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by TatonkaBurger on 20/01/16, 09:17 am

"Way to turn your back on your fellow NTX'ans..." ???  Is it too much to ask to represent NTX in a classy manner?

Well at least the board is awake again.  I am keeping my fingers crossed that GO makes an appearance.
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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 09:21 am

TatonkaBurger wrote:"Way to turn your back on your fellow NTX'ans..." ???  Is it too much to ask to represent NTX in a classy manner?

Well at least the board is awake again.  I am keeping my fingers crossed that GO makes an appearance.

No,it isnt too much to ask....but eye for an eye.
Dont just dub the California team as innocent....

way to throw shade...
two wrongs dont make a right

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by Jackie Moon on 20/01/16, 09:24 am

The board is back!!! Should make for a fun next meeting between LP and DTS.

By the way, congrats to LP and DTS for making the finals and representing North Texas with an all North Texas final!
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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 09:28 am

nothing will be said because there was no beef between DTS and Elite.

Nothing was said the last 3 times they played each other.

Age Pure desensitized all the controversies and rivalries.

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Post by Son_ofa_Pitch on 20/01/16, 09:32 am

Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench?? I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents. No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.
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Post by Lefty on 20/01/16, 09:33 am

Finally a thread on something other than coaches, clubs, leagues and tournaments advertising for players and parents to come pay them $.

Very Happy

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 09:39 am

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench??  I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents.  No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.

Is that what posting the letter was about?

Them running across yalls bench?

Cause that letter didnt come from Liverpool I presume.


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Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 09:42 am

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench??  I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents.  No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.

Im not reaching....nothing wrong with basking...especially when no one at that time could beat you. back in those days, wasnt any elite complaining....only defending.

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Post by Son_ofa_Pitch on 20/01/16, 09:50 am

No difference here.. Im still defending. I just added more to it with the letter because running across our bench struck a nerve..
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Post by MustangGT on 20/01/16, 09:51 am

WhySeauxSerious wrote:
Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench??  I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents.  No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.

Is that what posting the letter was about?

Them running across yalls bench?

Cause that letter didnt come from Liverpool I presume.


EXACTLY. One doesn't need to be a DTS parent to see this.

I am pretty sure your coach and manager know how to contact Gabe if there was a problem at your game. I assume GA would take any complaint seriously as all of these coaches do.

This wasn't about that. This is about you being pissed and taking a swipe at the entire team by posting an unrelated one sided letter for all to see in retaliation.

One more thing, we all know Elite celebrates big wins with golf claps sitting on their bench on their own side right?

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Post by Soccapeeps on 20/01/16, 09:55 am

WhySeauxSerious wrote:
Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench??  I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents.  No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.

Im not reaching....nothing wrong with basking...especially when no one at that time could beat you. back in those days, wasnt any elite complaining....only defending.

Seaux
There is nothing wrong in celebrating and basking in a victory, but running in front of the opposing team's parents and players is classless...there is a difference you baffoon.

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by MustangGT on 20/01/16, 10:00 am

Soccapeeps wrote:
WhySeauxSerious wrote:
Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench??  I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents.  No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.

Im not reaching....nothing wrong with basking...especially when no one at that time could beat you. back in those days, wasnt any elite complaining....only defending.

Seaux
There is nothing wrong in celebrating and basking in a victory, but running in front of the opposing team's parents and players is classless...there is a difference you baffoon.

hahahahahaha

Hey Pitch why no response to Rogers?

Seaux and I were not there so can you confirm whether or not the same CA team at issue here was on your sideline cheering loudly for your own team? Is it possible Roger's explanation of any sideline cheering makes sense or not? Is it possible LP inadvertently took it as directed at them not knowing the earlier beef with the CA team? I mean did you actually think some random CA team stuck around and was so excited to see LP Elite beat DTS?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 10:01 am

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:No difference here.. Im still defending. I just added more to it with the letter because running across our bench struck a nerve..
I guess bruh....
"trigger fingers turn to twitter fingers...."

In the end though...the letter...
this is the same thing posted previously by:
Odyssey parents
Tx Spirit Parents
Dalglish Parents
Numerous Sting Parents etc....

If it struck that kind of nerve, this forum isnt exactly the avenue to get square with those parents...
and im not talking about fighting or cussing and arguing. Just saying.

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by Son_ofa_Pitch on 20/01/16, 10:02 am

MustangGT wrote:
WhySeauxSerious wrote:
Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench??  I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents.  No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.

Is that what posting the letter was about?

Them running across yalls bench?

Cause that letter didnt come from Liverpool I presume.


EXACTLY. One doesn't need to be a DTS parent to see this.

I am pretty sure your coach and manager know how to contact Gabe if there was a problem at your game. I assume GA would take any complaint seriously as all of these coaches do.

This wasn't about that. This is about you being pissed and taking a swipe at the entire team by posting an unrelated one sided letter for all to see in retaliation.

One more thing, we all know Elite celebrates big wins with golf claps sitting on their bench on their own side right?

HUH?? Please, please, please go kick rocks!! You have no case or dog in the fight right?
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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by JonSneauxTargaryen on 20/01/16, 10:03 am

Soccapeeps wrote:
WhySeauxSerious wrote:
Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench??  I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents.  No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.

Im not reaching....nothing wrong with basking...especially when no one at that time could beat you. back in those days, wasnt any elite complaining....only defending.

Seaux
There is nothing wrong in celebrating and basking in a victory, but running in front of the opposing team's parents and players is classless...there is a difference you baffoon.

hahahahahaha

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by MustangGT on 20/01/16, 10:10 am

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:
MustangGT wrote:
WhySeauxSerious wrote:
Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Seaux, you were reaching a bit about that comment about us bathing in our glory and we only complained when we lost (I saw it was removed)..

Was this about us losing or was it about the parents running across our bench??  I can careless who is chanting "Liverpool" or even if they are chanting "DT South". Just don't make it a point to run across our bench in front of players and parents.  No "G Code" violation, no "Sour Grapes".. We lost straight up.

Is that what posting the letter was about?

Them running across yalls bench?

Cause that letter didnt come from Liverpool I presume.


EXACTLY. One doesn't need to be a DTS parent to see this.

I am pretty sure your coach and manager know how to contact Gabe if there was a problem at your game. I assume GA would take any complaint seriously as all of these coaches do.

This wasn't about that. This is about you being pissed and taking a swipe at the entire team by posting an unrelated one sided letter for all to see in retaliation.

One more thing, we all know Elite celebrates big wins with golf claps sitting on their bench on their own side right?

HUH?? Please, please, please go kick rocks!! You have no case or dog in the fight right?

Oh so NOW we are sticking ONLY to things that involve US directly hu? COUGH... LETTER... COUGH COUGH!

Are you saying there was no intentional kicking of girls, biting, or cussing at players and parents in your game? Are you saying you are not from California? I ask only because you posted a letter regarding these ridiculous sounding claims from a CA team with no explanation or claims from Liverpool until called out.

Your only complaint I am getting is that one single DTS parent cheered down the sideline after a win? Not the entire team? Ok, yea I think you could have addressed that with the coach or manager there.

Oh and quit posting things if you REFUSE to answer anyone else's questions. This makes you nothing but a troll.

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Re: Concerning Letter about DT South 04

Post by Read_These_Nikes on 20/01/16, 10:16 am

SOAP what you're doing looks a lot like "sour grapes" "concerning letter" if you have serious issues with DTS go straight to the source and take it up with the Texans. You posting your concerns about DTS here seems kinda classless in itself. I guess if the DTS girls go running up to the guest sidelines after a win clapping it would be taken in a whole different way than when LP does it, "classy". SMH
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