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Post by 2_cents_worth on 26/04/16, 07:00 am

Will ODP remain relevant as a path to the National Teams after the Development Academy comes online?
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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by Lefty on 26/04/16, 07:06 am

Is it now?

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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by TatonkaBurger on 26/04/16, 08:16 am

It is close to "dead" in several age groups already.
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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by Mia Hamster on 26/04/16, 01:10 pm

ODP will continue. Most places outside of Texas have a very lofty opinion of ODP. If you venture to the East or West Coast you will find many competitive coaches boasting of the number of ODP players they roster.

DA will attract serious talent. However, there is some serious talent that will not want to make the 130% commitment that DA is wanting (4 practices, no school sports, no odp, etc...)

ODP will help fill that void: highly skilled competitive players who won't fill the DA ranks, but want some extra touches.

My kid is in her 6th year of ODP and she loves it. The coaching and other extra opportunities (EXOS, camps, etc...) have been great for her development.

She is in the middle of attending College ID camps and talking to the college coaches. The majority of them see ODP on her soccer resume and it is a "big deal" in their eyes.
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Post by meriusrex on 26/04/16, 11:56 pm

Too many people focus on "will this get my kid to the national level"

There is so much more to all of this than that, and the national level is irrelevant for most. ODP on a soccer resume' is highly regarded by many college coaches, especially if you have advanced through the "ranks" during your tenure w/ the program. Why does it have to be an all or nothing question? ODP has been around for many years...the DA academy will have an impact on a select few in the grand scheme of things, not likely to rewrite the whole soccer scene of NTX. At all levels of soccer there are over 700,000 registered players (in NTX alone)that contribute to the over 3 million in the US. And as long as people keep having children, and then those children start playing soccer, there will always be many different levels of development among them...and those 1,000's of players will consistently be looking for places to train and develop to improve their game, at a level that is commensurate with their ability.

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Post by SantaFe on 27/04/16, 11:32 am

Yeah, I think ODP will continue to be relevant and an attractive option for a lot of pretty good players. It helps on the resume and provides extra training and interaction- a look at more of the "outside" from just your own team. It's not a huge investment of time or money. As long as you look at it for what it is, seems to be a pretty decent thing.

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Post by Rico_Passe on 27/04/16, 09:35 pm

It's all about exposure. And ODP will get you a little exposed
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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by db10 on 28/04/16, 07:02 am

Look beyond the Teaxs borders and you will see ODP is held in a lot higher regard. In fact it's pretty much the most consistent item on the resume of USWNT and top colleg players.

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Post by Lefty on 28/04/16, 07:23 am

ODP is not a bad investment to get additional touches, coaching perspective and opportunity to play with and against other good players.

ODP was and still is a credential and provides exposure, just not near what it used to be in the NTX area with ECNL and soon to be DA. .

Previously ODP was all there was above LHGCL and most all the best players in NTX participated.

What % of the best players in NTX signing with major D1 Power 5 Conferences are participating in ODP this year.

Looking at where the National Team players participated is kind of looking out the back window of a car to determine where you are going, given how much the landscape has changed since they were in their teens.

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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by OLJW on 28/04/16, 08:19 am

ODP is the pool play model that the USSF claims to desire. ODP is not supported by the people running the show around here, because there is no money and/or glory in it for them. The very same people that lecture everyone about pooling talent, refuse to pool their talent unless they can make a buck and/or add to their trophy case.

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Post by CharlieSheen's Brain on 28/04/16, 09:07 am

OLJW wrote:ODP is the pool play model that the USSF claims to desire. ODP is not supported by the people running the show around here, because there is no money and/or glory in it for them. The very same people that lecture everyone about pooling talent, refuse to pool their talent unless they can make a buck and/or add to their trophy case.

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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by just4fun on 28/04/16, 12:36 pm

Completely agree with the others above, Outside Texas ODP is a BIG deal. I have nieces that play ODP in other states and they laugh at us for thinking it is so minimal.

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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by SD69 on 05/05/16, 01:19 pm

Brought this thread back up to discuss camp.

I know that ODP opinions around here vary from very positive to very negative. My personal opinion is somewhere in the middle. Its good for extra touches and they are pretty good about teaching positional play, and at the regional level there can be some international travel with some good competition and experiences. But I also know that national team members from NTX will not be using ODP as their vehicle to get them there.

Prior to last year, I remember NTX taking their U13 teams to California to play against CalN and CalS in San Diego. If I remember correctly, NTX teams were also provided transportation to regional camp.

I'm wondering how many on here will be sending the DD's to camp? $975 seems pretty high for a 4 day camp that does NOT provide transportation to and from. I have a hard time sending my 12yo DD on a plane (or bus) ride to Birmingham without a chaperone, and I cant take 4 days out of busy work schedule to take her there. Wondering how others who may be going are handling this.

I've also heard that there is no U11/U12 sub-regional residential camp this year. There may a local non-residential camp but nothing at OU or A&M. That's too bad. That was what my DD liked most about ODP.

Seems like its really changed the last few years.
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Post by 01SoccerDad on 05/05/16, 03:46 pm

My DD is an 00. She has been with the program for years and watched her friends drop 1 by 1. The camp for her is/was a bright spot, but they may have taken this away from her. The bus was a positive part of the experience and a necessity based on the expense for our family. It has made the decision tough.

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Post by travelin light on 05/05/16, 04:10 pm

For the 04/05 age group, the only camp this summer is a day camp from Thursday 6/23 - Monday 6/27. The day camp will be located in Plano and runs from 9am-12pm. Cost is $290 for the 15 hours.
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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by Zizou on 05/05/16, 07:32 pm

ODP will survive due to those parents who will always pay to supply that dream of national team aspirations for their DD's

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Post by abc000 on 06/05/16, 07:10 am

01SoccerDad wrote:My DD is an 00. She has been with the program for years and watched her friends drop 1 by 1. The camp for her is/was a bright spot, but they may have taken this away from her. The bus was a positive part of the experience and a necessity based on the expense for our family. It has made the decision tough.

We are in the exact same boat!! Will probably try to swing it. Not so much for the soccer but will look good on the extracurricular list for the college application.

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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by Mia Hamster on 06/05/16, 09:14 am

travelin light wrote:For the 04/05 age group, the only camp this summer is a day camp from Thursday 6/23 - Monday 6/27. The day camp will be located in Plano and runs from 9am-12pm. Cost is $290 for the 15 hours.

That is not good. The summer Oklahoma residential camp for the younger girls has been a highlight of the program for many years. My daughter has great memories of the OK camp.
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Post by OLJW on 06/05/16, 09:46 am

ODP money going to DA?

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Re: Will ODP Survive?

Post by 01SoccerDad on 06/05/16, 10:34 am

OLJW wrote:ODP money going to DA?
Zizou wrote:ODP will survive due to those parents who will always pay to supply that dream of national team aspirations for their DD's

IMHO An investment in your DDs life should be to as diversified as you hope that her life will be. If the majority of the people feel like the only focus is to send their DD to play soccer in college not to go to college and play soccer... then OPD money will go to DA.

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Post by Zizou on 06/05/16, 10:51 am

My DD went though the ODP experience. Their were many highs and some lows, but that should be expected. ODP officials were always very kind. Although their will come a point and time when it will come to a end mostly depending on if you are willing to spend the money.

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Post by Medicine Man on 05/11/17, 08:08 pm

Zizou it's 2017 and ODP is still alive. When do you think it will be on life support we also support numerous leagues as well. Doesn't look like the money is drying up in these parts.

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Post by BigErn on 05/11/17, 08:13 pm

Medicine Man wrote:Zizou it's 2017 and ODP is still alive. When do you think it will be on life support we also support numerous leagues as well. Doesn't look like the money is drying up in these parts.

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Post by Medicine Man on 05/11/17, 08:17 pm

Do we say 2017 for ECNL?

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Post by Medicine Man on 07/11/17, 12:10 pm

Big E looks like you got a new historical marker now. 2012 2017 ?. This would be a good IQ question. What's the answer for ?.

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