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Post by soccerpapa2 on 24/5/2016, 2:42 pm

As we approach a new soccer year, wanted to get input on how much clubs will be charging. Also within the same club, would you pay the same if your team plays LH, Plano, Arlington, D1, D2 or D3?
I know parents will not decide just based on cost, but I know it is a strong item to consider.

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Post by Zidane on 24/5/2016, 6:24 pm

2500-3500 fees
1000 travel
750 gas money
500 toll tag fees
300 new cleats

that is a good starting point.
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Post by soccerpapa2 on 25/5/2016, 8:57 am

I mean, to compare what different clubs charge.

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Post by Zizou on 25/5/2016, 10:14 am

If your DD is a stud! Free

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Post by Zidane on 25/5/2016, 1:43 pm

Sting 2800
*payment plan available
uniforms 500

I would assume DT, Solar, FCD similar in price.

I am not familiar with rates of Independents; however, this would be a good value + no CPP liabilities.
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Post by outtacontrol on 25/5/2016, 4:04 pm

Indy my DD plays for charges:

1800$ fee (can pay out over 6 months if needed)
roughly 300$ for uniform (includes warm ups but not bag)
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Post by outtacontrol on 25/5/2016, 4:06 pm

Zidane wrote:Sting 2800
*payment plan available
uniforms 500

I would assume DT, Solar, FCD similar in price.

I am not familiar with rates of Independents; however, this would be a good value + no CPP liabilities.


Liverpool fees are similar to this - with lots of required fundraising Smile
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Post by newbiefornow on 26/5/2016, 12:49 am

OK - If you're kid is '03

Club fees ~ $3,000 per year
Uniform and gear ~ $500
Futsal ~ $150/month ($1,100 per season)
SAQ and Conditioning ~ $150/month ($1,100 per season)
Summer camps ~ $1,000
ECNL Travel ~ Budget $2,000
Team Escrow ~ $500

Worth adding your time and cost of travel. Opportunity cost of time invested in practice, travel and training by your DD which depends on how your DD would use that time if she had it (extra credits, extra study, sleep etc...)

Obviously if you're not ECNL or you don't want to be you can get away with close to a $4,000 "investment". The investment is in professional coaching and relatively good facilities but not is any way a good investment in a college scholarship. Save your money and spend it on SAT Prep if that's the focus. ECNL is NOT the only path to D1 College play, just the clearest one. There's a lot of chatter about "bad" coaches. I haven't met one and I'm not a newbie now.

Just to answer the question asked. No I wouldn't pay the same for a lower standard of play. I may be odd but this would only be worth it to me if I felt the talent warranted the investment. That's a lot of money. D2 is lower cost but lower expectations.

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Post by Hodor on 26/5/2016, 12:46 pm

Are most of the clubs cost similar?
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Post by newbiefornow on 26/5/2016, 12:58 pm

Pretty much as far as I know for D1 and ECNL.

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Post by bwgophers on 26/5/2016, 1:02 pm

Hodor wrote:Are most of the clubs cost similar?

Most of the larger to mid-size clubs will have similar cost structures (D'Feeters, FC Dallas, Solar, Sting, Texans, Liverpool, Andromeda, Tx. Spirit, Mustangs, Cosmos, etc.) with "Fees" + Uniform costing roughly $3k +/- $500 per year.

I put "Fees" in quotes because different clubs break out their Fee structure differently, so you really need to make sure you are doing an apples-apples comparison of what exactly is included.

For the purpose of the #'s stated above, "Fees" includes:
- Coaches' Salaries
- Outdoor Practice Field Access
- Club Overhead/Administrative cost
- All fees associated with playing in 1 NTX competitive league (LHGCL, PPL, or APL)
- Tournament allowance to cover entry fees into 2-3 tournaments per year.

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Post by Manchester Soccer Club on 26/5/2016, 1:20 pm

I would say there is quite a bit of variation on cost when comparing clubs.

At Manchester Soccer Club, our fees are typically less than $1000 per year and cover fall and spring league fees, referee fees and tournament fees (Uniforms and winter and summer indoor/futsal fees are additional).
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Post by Hodor on 26/5/2016, 1:27 pm

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Post by soccerpapa2 on 26/5/2016, 4:17 pm

How do club fees compare to Texas South or other states? Are we (NTX) paying too much?

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Post by deepblack on 27/5/2016, 11:28 pm

YES!! We are definitely paying too much. I don't know how we compare to other regions though.
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Post by Evolution on 10/6/2016, 12:07 am

Colleyville Evolution fees were $1575 last year (should be close to that this year) and uniform $335.  Includes 4 tournaments, 5-10 friendlies (full referee crew on quality Colleyville pitch), winter indoor training field space, etc.  You can find quality full-time professional coaching for less than $4000 per year, IMO (admittedly, I'm biased).

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Post by soccerjack on 10/6/2016, 12:16 am

Evolution wrote:Colleyville Evolution fees were $1575 last year (should be close to that this year) and uniform $335.  Includes 4 tournaments, 5-10 friendlies (full referee crew on quality Colleyville pitch), winter indoor training field space, etc.  You can find quality full-time professional coaching for less than $4000 per year, IMO (admittedly, I'm biased).

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You're making the money on the uniforms aren't you???
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Post by Evolution on 10/6/2016, 12:20 am

No. We aim to cover our costs here, that's all.
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Post by Lefty on 10/6/2016, 10:43 am

soccerjack wrote:
Evolution wrote:Colleyville Evolution fees were $1575 last year (should be close to that this year) and uniform $335.  Includes 4 tournaments, 5-10 friendlies (full referee crew on quality Colleyville pitch), winter indoor training field space, etc.  You can find quality full-time professional coaching for less than $4000 per year, IMO (admittedly, I'm biased).

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You're making the money on the uniforms aren't you???

How do you define 'professional coaching' in this case?

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Post by bbgw on 26/6/2016, 5:52 pm

Frisco Fusion are about 1/2 to 1/3 of most clubs. My 03 team is around 1200 plus 350 uniform. Traveling really not needed at this age, more a waste of money since you end up playing teams from here anyways and they are too young for college coaches to come watch.
The lower costs allow for private lessons which kids get the most growth from skill wise.

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Post by Olé on 29/6/2016, 12:07 pm

Dynamo FC 03G (Allen,TX) was less than $600 last season, and it included: league play, referee fees, field rentals, training uniform kit, more than a handful of tournaments, team training equipment, etc...

The game uniform kit, which includes the away and home jersey, has traditionally been adidas and has never been close to $150.

Obviously, to many parents in our area the club name on the jersey and being part of a large club is a social need, but I share the same opinion as some in this thread: the money saved with many independent teams can be well spent on other things such as college fund, academic tutoring, private one-on-one soccer training, braces, car payments, etc... ;)

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Post by LeftSideRightSide on 29/6/2016, 1:28 pm

Is it true that FC Dallas will be $4200 or more this year? Or is that just for the ECNL teams?

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Post by RightWingDad on 29/6/2016, 2:18 pm

Olé wrote:Obviously, to many parents in our area the club name on the jersey and being part of a large club is a social need, but I share the same opinion as some in this thread: the money saved with many independent teams can be well spent on other things such as college fund, academic tutoring, private one-on-one soccer training, braces, car payments, etc... Wink

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While I might agree that for some parents club ranking, and status is a draw. However if I used that logic why not go the rec route. You free up a lot more time and money for other things right? Bottom line if your kid is a soccer talent, and they want to play against top competition I'm betting they are not seeking out teams like Purple Ponies or Pink Unicorns. Not too many showcases with teams like that. Just sayin'. BTW, dd plays for a small Indy.
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Post by wxyz on 29/6/2016, 2:19 pm

LeftSideRightSide wrote:Is it true that FC Dallas will be $4200 or more this year?  Or is that just for the ECNL teams?

Club fees are about 3K and team fees are about 2K, total of 5K, for ECNL and composite teams! Add another 0.5K for uniforms (more for goalies)!

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Post by BigErn on 29/6/2016, 2:38 pm

LeftSideRightSide wrote:Is it true that FC Dallas will be $4200 or more this year?  Or is that just for the ECNL teams?

Competitive club dues are the same for all teams U11+ in each major club. $2950 at FCD this year. There are additional fees for ECNL girls that go to pay for regional/national tourney fees + travel/room/board.

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