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Post by SGS on 28/07/16, 10:33 am

I decided to message you privately to discuss the issue.

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Post by SGS on 28/07/16, 10:36 am

Well ECNL players don't give there heart and soul into compared to professional level. What a stupid comment. The best thing about soccer is that it can be played at all levels and ages, then people discuss it and have opinions. This happens world wide and that's why it is the worlds greatest sport. To say people can't have that because the level is not good shows the lack of understanding of what sports is. Also "not good" is relative. Technically ECNL is not good compared to other leagues (la liga) so therefor no one should argue or discuss that.
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Post by ItsMeAgain on 28/07/16, 11:01 am

SGS wrote:Well ECNL players don't give there heart and soul into compared to professional level. What a stupid comment. The best thing about soccer is that it can be played at all levels and ages, then people discuss it and have opinions. This happens world wide and that's why it is the worlds greatest sport. To say people can't have that because the level is not good shows the lack of understanding of what sports is. Also "not good" is relative. Technically ECNL is not good compared to other leagues (la liga) so therefor no one should argue or discuss that.

speaking on nonsense responses........................why you putting comments on me that i never made........................i didn't compare to ecnl or other leagues................................sooooooooooooooooooo not sure how you can call it a stupid comment................................didn't say "people cant have that".............................whatever "that" is..............................and never used the term "not good" either so take your c-r-a-p elsewhere when trying to quote someone........................nothing against people playing at any and all levels.......................they should and thats how the big clubs stay in business.........................................the truth is that as these players get older the drop out of playing or lost interest in the grind of staying competitive to keep pace with those that actually do take it serious and put their "heart and soul" in to the game..............................so part of the way these teams are moving up is due to openings from player and teams vacating roster positions and byes or a slide in their desire to compete at a higher competitive level...................................and the gap between the higher levels of competition widens...............................i wont take a thing away from anyone that wants to play no matter how serious they are and its beautiful to watch at all levels just to see them enjoy doing something thats not playing pokemon go.......................so im sorry if you dont like it but the truth hurts sometimes
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Post by SGS on 28/07/16, 11:22 am

I'm done, I saw you posted the same thing in the 01 thread. we are in every right to discuss, argue and bicker about any level of soccer we want as are you. I will disagree with you I think plenty of players put their heart and soul into the game at this level, they also make sacrifices for practices and game so I would call that taking it seriously. Good luck to you sir.


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Post by Marvelousmar on 28/07/16, 11:23 am

Ah the fun continues. if they want to play let them play. Make peace not war.There might also be the counter argument that the qualast gets closer in age as kids that don't want to play are not playing. ECNL is a differnet animal but agin God forbid their might be some kids in Plano that could make an ECNL side. The concentration of tallent is there but there is talent at different level as well. I am confused about this truth you speak of that hurts. Certain folks are receiving byes I get that not a fan of it either but that's the way it works. Just hoping the girls continue to play the game and get better if that is what they want
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Post by knowssoccerstuff on 28/07/16, 11:52 am

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knowssoccerstuff wrote:Just curious.  Was is predetermined that only 4 would move to the next weekend?   If so, why did Mutiny "advance" and not GSSC?

Not that I disagree.  Mutiny seems stronger than the depleted GSSC team.  But Mutiny lost all three games.  GSSC had a tie and three losses.  
From the LH website:

"Teams will play all other teams within their bracket. The 1st and 2nd place teams from each Bracket have earned a spot in Lake Highlands Girls Classic League. The 3rd and 4th place teams will advance to Round 2."

It seems rather unfortunate that of 9 teams that start, only 1 team gets knocked out after the 1st round.  But GSSC had the bad luck of being in the bracket of 5.  In the other bracket, the last place team still gets a second chance.  Being undefeated in Plano during the spring can only get you so far...

Thanks for the explanation. I tried to poke around on my phone to find something but gave up. Does seem a little unfair but I guess in reality, neither GSSC nor Mutiny would ultimately make LH this season. But you never know. Seems like it would be a little hard to swallow not getting the chance just because you were in the wrong bracket.

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Post by knowssoccerstuff on 28/07/16, 11:54 am

I think the best way to handle qualifying in the future would be to have all teams play round robin over three weeks. Or maybe still keep it to two weeks and have a game every night.

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Post by Marvelousmar on 28/07/16, 12:20 pm

It could be worse. Boys have 28 teams for 6 spots solving it over one weekend only brscket winner gets in. seeding becomes more important in that case. No easy way to do it. I think LH got it pretty right. Hoping I am saying the same after the weekend.
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Post by knowssoccerstuff on 28/07/16, 12:36 pm

Marvelousmar wrote:It could be worse.  Boys have 28 teams for 6  spots solving it over one weekend only brscket winner gets in.  seeding becomes more important in that case.  No easy way to do it.  I think LH got it pretty right.  Hoping I am saying the same after the weekend.

Wow. That's rough.

Well, whoever makes it after this weekend should certainly have earned it. Hopefully, they don't pull a move like they did last year with Andro Red.

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Post by ItsMeAgain on 28/07/16, 01:34 pm

SGS wrote:they also make sacrifices for practices and game so I would call that taking it seriously.

so do rec players............................its not about the time you spend doing it......................its about how you use that time, the time spent above and beyond that,  and the attitude a player carries that determines how serious they are..........................good luck with your upcoming seasons.
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Post by nolanryan on 29/07/16, 11:42 am

knowssoccerstuff wrote:
Wildone wrote:
knowssoccerstuff wrote:Just curious.  Was is predetermined that only 4 would move to the next weekend?   If so, why did Mutiny "advance" and not GSSC?

Not that I disagree.  Mutiny seems stronger than the depleted GSSC team.  But Mutiny lost all three games.  GSSC had a tie and three losses.  
From the LH website:

"Teams will play all other teams within their bracket. The 1st and 2nd place teams from each Bracket have earned a spot in Lake Highlands Girls Classic League. The 3rd and 4th place teams will advance to Round 2."

It seems rather unfortunate that of 9 teams that start, only 1 team gets knocked out after the 1st round.  But GSSC had the bad luck of being in the bracket of 5.  In the other bracket, the last place team still gets a second chance.  Being undefeated in Plano during the spring can only get you so far...

Thanks for the explanation.  I tried to poke around on my phone to find something but gave up.   Does seem a little unfair but I guess in reality, neither GSSC nor Mutiny would ultimately make LH this season.  But you never know.   Seems like it would be a little hard to swallow not getting the chance just because you were in the wrong bracket.  

It's somewhat of a surprise how GSSC fell short, but it is also interesting how things are shaking out for some of last year's 01 teams.  Last summer, due to a less than effective setup on Plano's part, there was discussion about whether Plano 2 was stronger than Plano 1.  Now as the qualifiers are reaching their final stage and only 1 of the teams from Plano 1 has made LH and only Mutiny and Rockwall in the running for 1 spot.  From Plano 2, FCUSA and FC Dallas Red are now in Lake Highlands and both Texas Spirit and Andromeda West (now wearing FC Dallas colors) have decent chance of advancing.  I would have given Tony's FCD Silver a strong chance of going in as well if they hadn't broken up.  

Who knows?  AP at work.  Good luck to everyone this weekend, especially you Marvelous.
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Post by Marvelousmar on 29/07/16, 02:58 pm

Thanks Nolan for the Good luck. I am not sure if it is the AP shakeout or just the nature of whom tried out and how folks were playing. FC Dallas Red received a bye. ( having played them a few weeks ago well deserved hoping we can finally break the multiple ties we seem to have every time we play) FCUSA was flying last week good on for the man in the track suit. Andro West ( now wearing FCD) Should have qualified last weekend but has a legit shot of making it in this weekend in the 01 age group. I give our side a fighter's chance this weekend if we play the way they are capable of playing. Tony's miss that group. But that would have been 5 of the Plano 2 sides making LH. The improvement thing we were talking about would be a good result. Now some may argue it's because it's been watered down and there might be some truth to that. It is interesting to your point Nolan if it pans out that certain teams qualified. Just trying to keep cool as my boys have 4 games and the girls have 3. It's going to be a long weekend. Probably won't have much of a signing voice after the last game.....
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Post by DallasMessi on 29/07/16, 09:44 pm

Good luck Marvelous....

I disagree with Nolan's take on Silver- never felt they were strong team. That team fell apart and am aware that some tried to make the FCD Premier and Red teams but don't think any did.

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Post by nolanryan on 29/07/16, 10:08 pm

DallasMessi wrote:Good luck Marvelous....

I disagree with Nolan's take on Silver- never felt they were strong team.  That team fell apart and am aware that some tried to make the FCD Premier and Red teams but don't think any did.

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3 made the 01 Premier team (but not last years 01 Premier team), 2 of them defenders who were pretty decent.  I think a couple others went for the 00 Premier and didn't catch on.  The rest of the "core" went their separate ways and latched on to different teams but not sure which.  I don't completely get the '01 Premier team because it was formerly FC Dallas Blue 02 so I guess they used one of their millions of "byes" to move into Classic, completely start over and form a "Premier" team, which plays in D2, not D1,while another FC Dallas team plays in D1...ok.  My kid's team will see them this year so we will see how it all plays out.
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Post by Marvelousmar on 31/07/16, 07:53 am

Firstly I'd like to thank the well wishers for our side this weekend. We played but didn't get the results and you know sometimes that's soccer. My hats off to both Vitess and Mutiny that did what was necessary to find the W finishing their chances when they were presented. My hats off to my girls and all the girls this weekend for just trying to get better.

So to my boy its me again. It looks like we will be playing in I guess how you call it rec again. If I know my girls they are going to accept the challenge that I put to them. It's me I want you to take a look at Solar 03 boys that played in the rec league last year and their victories at Dallas Cup and becoming one of the best teams in the country. Just saying that their are teams in Plano that can succeed if they choose to. Soccer is a funny game and this year we saw a lot of funny stories.

Here are some examples of some stories that happened at the highest level.
Lecister City. Low payroll, small club, worked it's way from 3rd division to be Premier league champs.
Iceland. A team with very limited high level professionals on it and a Part time coach beating many of the best teams in Europe include England. (to my English coach friends not sure if England is really one of the best teams in Europe and sorry from bringing up that match)

The point is this game that many of us have a passion for is just that a game. I will agree with Its me on one thing. "its not about the time you spend doing it......................its about how you use that time, the time spent above and beyond that, and the attitude a player carries that determines how serious they are..........................good luck with your upcoming seasons."

That is a true statement no matter if your playing this game in the Premier league or a Sunday over 40 league with a few bear drinkers that are fat and out of shape. ( Again sorry to all my fat coach friends as well thanking God that I am still fit at 45)

Anyway it's back to work for these girls to try to be the best they can be. Last year we were one of two rec teams to beat a classic team. I have made it my mission that that becomes a common occurrence with our group next year. We have some matches that are in my "must win list" will we heck nobody knows. As I said before they are 15 year old girls. The thing is I am going to enjoy the ride. Upset we didn't do the job we should have done last week. Heck we already beat a classic team this year being the only side to beat Ajax from our group. All those sipping on LH champagne we looking forward to meeting you guys down the road. I will be the one playing Socca and reggae on the sideline.
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Post by imthatmom on 31/07/16, 08:48 am

Nicely put Marvelousmar. Keep on playing socca and reggae and radiating a positive attitude for your girls. See you on the pitch.

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