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Post by Big Boy Bentley on 11/04/17, 08:49 am

Unless your special child is hand picked for the inclusive circle of friends I would recommend a club that doesn't have JDL. I'm so glad my kid got to play in LH this year instead sitting on the bench. I saw too many of my old pals kids being benched by player pass and guest...just ask all the experts who are pumping the propoganda. The slate is clean in the fall again we will see the same players every weekend...now we know why NTX except for the top 4 or 5 teams is fantasy land.....new coach's new players maybe people will figure it out sooner than later....

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Post by Big Boy Bentley on 11/04/17, 08:55 am

Unless you get to play in JDL you are just another sucker from the hood. Lots of people have money to burn....

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Post by Zizou on 11/04/17, 09:00 am

All clubs in LHGCL are using player CPP. Here a novel thought, how about working and helping your DD improve her game so that just maybe she is the one leading her team from the field not the bench. Just because you pay or don't pay does not guarantee your spot on the field.

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Post by ColtMcVince on 11/04/17, 09:24 am

BBB is spot on.

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Post by physical2005 on 11/04/17, 09:25 am

Unless you believe the propaganda that JDL was for development, which some parents did. I see way to many kids sitting on the bench and not playing multiple positions like it was sold. Lies Lies Lies. Coaches and clubs are full of lies. Zizou I agree with improvement and making sure your DD has all the help to improve her game but not let's be naive, coaches have their favorites and there are coaches with their own kids playing on their teams in JDL and LHGCL, sure, they don't receive special treatment. lies lies lies. I wonder how many releases were given out this year to JDL players who found out the kool aid was tap water, I am betting a lot.

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Post by Zizou on 11/04/17, 09:29 am

Man this is everywhere you go! If you think that your going to go hide in a small club or an independent from favoritism, bias, and money. Pull your head out of the sand and start working with the one thing you can control. Your DD's improvement!

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Post by Zizou on 11/04/17, 09:30 am

Running scared and Blaiming others for your DD not playing is the wrong attitude.

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Post by 05girls on 11/04/17, 09:32 am

"I wonder how many releases were given out this year to JDL players who found out the kool aid was tap water, I am betting a lot."

At least one. But wasn't Bc she didn't play.

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Post by physical2005 on 11/04/17, 09:38 am

05girls wrote:"I wonder how many releases were given out this year to JDL players who found out the kool aid was tap water, I am betting a lot."

At least one.  But wasn't Bc she didn't play.  


it sounds like you are speaking from experience or personal knowledge. it must have been the lies.

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Post by ColtMcVince on 11/04/17, 09:39 am

Agreed Physical2005. Lots of promises of multiple positions and focus on player development. Not so much. JDL = LH. They just don't keep official record of the score.

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Post by physical2005 on 11/04/17, 09:48 am

Zizou wrote:Running scared and Blaiming others for your DD not playing is the wrong attitude.

no one from what I can tell is saying anything about running scared or blaming others, although you keep saying that, on multiple threads, so it must be somewhere deep inside you and on a personal level must affect you or your DD. pulling my head out of the sand, I believe most, except for you, are saying the same thing which is JDL and LH are equal and the lies that are being referenced to is that the development of players is supposed to be the main focus for JDL, that is a lie, the focus is and always will be winning and if you understand that then you understand north texas soccer.

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Post by wazup on 11/04/17, 09:56 am

ColtMcVince wrote:Agreed Physical2005.  Lots of promises of multiple positions and focus on player development.  Not so much.  JDL = LH.  They just don't keep official record of the score.  

Please don't associate JDL with "development".  Just because it has "development" in it's name, you should not expect development to actually occur.

Your continued talk of JDL and development will awaken BigE.  He will come on here rambling about his $300 movie channels and Starbucks addiction.  If your coach or others lied to you, that's between you and your club.  Quite honestly, you should have played 04 JDL at FC Dallas as everyone there is ecstatic about their experience.    LW made sure that there was development, everyone got playing time, and he regularly moved players around.  The only reason you are unhappy is because your team sucked.

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Post by physical2005 on 11/04/17, 09:58 am

wazup wrote:
ColtMcVince wrote:Agreed Physical2005.  Lots of promises of multiple positions and focus on player development.  Not so much.  JDL = LH.  They just don't keep official record of the score.  

Please don't associate JDL with "development".  Just because it has "development" in it's name, you should not expect development to actually occur.

Your continued talk of JDL and development will awaken BigE.  He will come on here rambling about his $300 movie channels and Starbucks addiction.  If your coach or others lied to you, that's between you and your club.  Quite honestly, you should have played 04 JDL at FC Dallas as everyone there is ecstatic about their experience.    LW made sure that there was development, everyone got playing time, and he regularly moved players around.  The only reason you are unhappy is because your team sucked.

actually my DD team is top 3 so, did not suck.

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Post by wazup on 11/04/17, 10:01 am

physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:
ColtMcVince wrote:Agreed Physical2005.  Lots of promises of multiple positions and focus on player development.  Not so much.  JDL = LH.  They just don't keep official record of the score.  

Please don't associate JDL with "development".  Just because it has "development" in it's name, you should not expect development to actually occur.

Your continued talk of JDL and development will awaken BigE.  He will come on here rambling about his $300 movie channels and Starbucks addiction.  If your coach or others lied to you, that's between you and your club.  Quite honestly, you should have played 04 JDL at FC Dallas as everyone there is ecstatic about their experience.    LW made sure that there was development, everyone got playing time, and he regularly moved players around.  The only reason you are unhappy is because your team sucked.

actually my DD team is top 3 so, did not suck.

Well, then you don't know what you are talking about.

According to BigE, the only people critical of JDL were on suck teams or were a JDL wannabe

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Post by physical2005 on 11/04/17, 10:03 am

wazup wrote:
physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:
ColtMcVince wrote:Agreed Physical2005.  Lots of promises of multiple positions and focus on player development.  Not so much.  JDL = LH.  They just don't keep official record of the score.  

Please don't associate JDL with "development".  Just because it has "development" in it's name, you should not expect development to actually occur.

Your continued talk of JDL and development will awaken BigE.  He will come on here rambling about his $300 movie channels and Starbucks addiction.  If your coach or others lied to you, that's between you and your club.  Quite honestly, you should have played 04 JDL at FC Dallas as everyone there is ecstatic about their experience.    LW made sure that there was development, everyone got playing time, and he regularly moved players around.  The only reason you are unhappy is because your team sucked.

actually my DD team is top 3 so, did not suck.


Well, then you don't know what you are talking about.

According to BigE, the only people critical of JDL were on suck teams or were a JDL wannabe

ha. good one, you and BigE must have one heck of a rivalry.

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Post by Zizou on 11/04/17, 10:07 am

quote="physical2005"]
Zizou wrote:Running scared and Blaiming others for your DD not playing is the wrong attitude.

no one from what I can tell is saying anything about running scared or blaming others, although you keep saying that, on multiple threads, so it must be somewhere deep inside you and on a personal level must affect you or your DD.  pulling my head out of the sand, I believe most, except for you, are saying the same thing which is JDL and LH are equal and the lies that are being referenced to is that the development of players is supposed to be the main focus for JDL, that is a lie, the focus is and always will be winning and if you understand that then you understand north texas soccer.   [/quote]

It seems this is not the case for all involved. Ones experience is not others experiences and does not speak for the masses. Hence control what you can as a parent. Your DD improvement within the game. Skills, futsal, fun, and encouragement.

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Post by wazup on 11/04/17, 10:24 am

physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:
physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:
ColtMcVince wrote:Agreed Physical2005.  Lots of promises of multiple positions and focus on player development.  Not so much.  JDL = LH.  They just don't keep official record of the score.  

Please don't associate JDL with "development".  Just because it has "development" in it's name, you should not expect development to actually occur.

Your continued talk of JDL and development will awaken BigE.  He will come on here rambling about his $300 movie channels and Starbucks addiction.  If your coach or others lied to you, that's between you and your club.  Quite honestly, you should have played 04 JDL at FC Dallas as everyone there is ecstatic about their experience.    LW made sure that there was development, everyone got playing time, and he regularly moved players around.  The only reason you are unhappy is because your team sucked.

actually my DD team is top 3 so, did not suck.


Well, then you don't know what you are talking about.

According to BigE, the only people critical of JDL were on suck teams or were a JDL wannabe

ha.  good one, you and BigE must have one heck of a rivalry.  

Not really - I just know to put on my boots and get out a shovel every time he comes on here to take a big ern.

More jaded?  more realistic?  potato potatoe


and for those of you on here complaining about JDL - in the words of BigE -

You should think in terms of years, rather than months. This may make ya sad, but JDL is gonna be around ... Permanently.

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Post by Zizou on 11/04/17, 10:55 am

It seems this is not the case for all involved. Ones experience is not others experiences and does not speak for the masses. Hence control what you can as a parent. Your DD improvement within the game. Skills, futsal, fun, and encouragement.

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Post by Big Boy Bentley on 12/04/17, 08:25 am

Just another sucker from the hood...

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Post by Zizou on 12/04/17, 09:40 am

It took time, but You got the point!

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Post by Big Boy Bentley on 12/04/17, 09:59 am

Abandon ship some more extreme BS....

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Post by Zizou on 12/04/17, 10:18 am

Lol, butt hurt

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Post by Big Ern on 12/04/17, 10:18 am

physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:
ColtMcVince wrote:Agreed Physical2005.  Lots of promises of multiple positions and focus on player development.  Not so much.  JDL = LH.  They just don't keep official record of the score.  

Please don't associate JDL with "development".  Just because it has "development" in it's name, you should not expect development to actually occur.

Your continued talk of JDL and development will awaken BigE.  He will come on here rambling about his $300 movie channels and Starbucks addiction.  If your coach or others lied to you, that's between you and your club.  Quite honestly, you should have played 04 JDL at FC Dallas as everyone there is ecstatic about their experience.    LW made sure that there was development, everyone got playing time, and he regularly moved players around.  The only reason you are unhappy is because your team sucked.

actually my DD team is top 3 so, did not suck.

Hey Boys --

You should certainly expect development to occur in a league that has 'development' in the title ... Furthermore, you should expect development every time your kid touches a ball -- purty simple stuff.  

Everything you guys have written today support my contention regarding the black and white difference between the 'haves' on this forum (Those that have had generally positive experiences which are likely due to playing with great teams and coaches), and the 'have nots' (The malcontents that haven't had the same fortune ... Those that seem to have been beaten down by the 'system', and are convinced that they've been lied to or misdirected ... The ones that consistently spew negativity and assume that the big clubs are greedily conspiring against us all).  

And I'm having a tough time with your notion that JDL is equal to LHGCL.  The JDL offers more consistent play against top competition and this will be further fortified next year.  Even Rush and Kicks are now taking advantage.  Next year onward, LHGCL is an afterthought ... With the absence of the bigs top 2 in each age group, Rush, Kicks, and likely LP Elite, your left with a glorified recreational league.  Again ... purty simple stuff.

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Post by Big Ern on 12/04/17, 10:20 am

wazup wrote:
physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:
physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:
ColtMcVince wrote:Agreed Physical2005.  Lots of promises of multiple positions and focus on player development.  Not so much.  JDL = LH.  They just don't keep official record of the score.  

Please don't associate JDL with "development".  Just because it has "development" in it's name, you should not expect development to actually occur.

Your continued talk of JDL and development will awaken BigE.  He will come on here rambling about his $300 movie channels and Starbucks addiction.  If your coach or others lied to you, that's between you and your club.  Quite honestly, you should have played 04 JDL at FC Dallas as everyone there is ecstatic about their experience.    LW made sure that there was development, everyone got playing time, and he regularly moved players around.  The only reason you are unhappy is because your team sucked.

actually my DD team is top 3 so, did not suck.


Well, then you don't know what you are talking about.

According to BigE, the only people critical of JDL were on suck teams or were a JDL wannabe

ha.  good one, you and BigE must have one heck of a rivalry.  

Not really - I just know to put on my boots and get out a shovel every time he comes on here to take a big ern.

More jaded?  more realistic?  potato potatoe


and for those of you on here complaining about JDL - in the words of BigE -

You should think in terms of years, rather than months. This may make ya sad, but JDL is gonna be around ... Permanently.

Wazup wazup ...

Still pickin n choosin ^ huh?

And BTW -- I have zero movie channels and don't drink coffee Wink

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Post by wazup on 12/04/17, 10:54 am

BigErn wrote:
wazup wrote:
physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:
physical2005 wrote:
wazup wrote:

Please don't associate JDL with "development".  Just because it has "development" in it's name, you should not expect development to actually occur.

Your continued talk of JDL and development will awaken BigE.  He will come on here rambling about his $300 movie channels and Starbucks addiction.  If your coach or others lied to you, that's between you and your club.  Quite honestly, you should have played 04 JDL at FC Dallas as everyone there is ecstatic about their experience.    LW made sure that there was development, everyone got playing time, and he regularly moved players around.  The only reason you are unhappy is because your team sucked.

actually my DD team is top 3 so, did not suck.


Well, then you don't know what you are talking about.

According to BigE, the only people critical of JDL were on suck teams or were a JDL wannabe

ha.  good one, you and BigE must have one heck of a rivalry.  

Not really - I just know to put on my boots and get out a shovel every time he comes on here to take a big ern.

More jaded?  more realistic?  potato potatoe


and for those of you on here complaining about JDL - in the words of BigE -

You should think in terms of years, rather than months. This may make ya sad, but JDL is gonna be around ... Permanently.

Wazup wazup ...

Still pickin n choosin ^ huh?  

And BTW -- I have zero movie channels and don't drink coffee Wink



Still refusing to OWN your statements:


You should think in terms of years, rather than months. This may make ya sad, but JDL is gonna be around ... Permanently.

For the other 99% of us, we can afford the extra $200-$300/month to have our kids follow their passion and dreams ... just might have to give up the morning Starbucks, 4G LTE data, or a couple movie channels.  


still waiting to hear about these "couple movie channels" that will cover the extra $200-$300/month

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Post by ColtMcVince on 12/04/17, 11:05 am

Bigern, my comment that JDL=LH was made using this logic. There is a clear # 1 - DTS, but they moved up to '04 in the spring. Beyond that it's debatable but Kicks until now hasn't played in JDL. After that there is some argument about who fills out the top 5. A couple of those teams are in JDL a couple aren't. From there approximately 5-15 probably have some sort of rank order but all/most are competitive. So I agree to extent that JDL offers more consistent top level competition but it's really not as simple as that. Having 2 leagues has watered down both to a point where only the bottom of LH does not belong. Otherwise, week in and out games are more or less competitive. I've seen plenty of games in both leagues to know this is a fact.

What it comes down to with either direction you go is about the coach. Really doesn't matter what league you are in. Is the coach doing all the say they will do and all they should be doing. And perhaps a side preference of whether you like competing for something week in and week out (LH) or not (JDL)

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