05 JDL

ColtMcVince wrote:a bunch of grown men (I'm assuming) making fun of 11 year old soccer.  What is your real problem with JDL?  My daughter is on a JDL team.  Yesterday, she had a real game.  They played on a grass field which had goals, she wore a uniform, they even had refs (crazy huh)!   Just as I did last year while watching her play D1 LH games, I cheered when the team did good, moaned and groaned when they didn't.  I also left the game fully aware of the outcome.  Just bc it's not posted on the internet somewhere doesn't make it any less of a league than what you are chasing after. guess how many times my daughter has approached me and said "dad, let's pull up those standings and see how we are doing."   Zero.  Why?  Because she doesn't care and I bet most 11 yr olds out there don't care.   Just don't get all of you weirdos who are talking trash about a league you clearly aren't a part of.

Buddy Israel wrote:

ColtMcVince wrote:a bunch of grown men (I'm assuming) making fun of 11 year old soccer.  What is your real problem with JDL?  My daughter is on a JDL team.  Yesterday, she had a real game.  They played on a grass field which had goals, she wore a uniform, they even had refs (crazy huh)!   Just as I did last year while watching her play D1 LH games, I cheered when the team did good, moaned and groaned when they didn't.  I also left the game fully aware of the outcome.  Just bc it's not posted on the internet somewhere doesn't make it any less of a league than what you are chasing after. guess how many times my daughter has approached me and said "dad, let's pull up those standings and see how we are doing."   Zero.  Why?  Because she doesn't care and I bet most 11 yr olds out there don't care.   Just don't get all of you weirdos who are talking trash about a league you clearly aren't a part of.

So why did you feel the need to report the scores?
When my kid scrimmages yes she knows who won, but you are correct she doesn't know or care who has won the most scrimmages.

ColtMcVince wrote:I posted the scores b/c someone earlier in the thread asked for them.

Lyin Ted wrote:I don't understand why people take things so literally. The scores aren't going to be kept on gotsoccer and affect rankings.  

Not keeping score in weekly games makes it like club soccer. It makes the games more about  development and developing.  Then when teams play in tournaments they can see what they really are .  I personally think it's a good idea.

The only rankings it affects is our conversations like these. I saw many girls play different positions than what they are best at. It was kind of refreshing.

05girls wrote:Not the answer for what? I just don't get what you think you are accomplishing that we aren't. Your DD had 2 practices this week and maybe some side work the same as mind and then played a game on Saturday, same as mine. The ONLY difference is that the score was not posted to the internet.

Zizou wrote:the independents could easily create their own exclusive league. Then they could boast their league developes players best and challenge the top clubs for superiority as they develope players. JDIL lol.

Lyin Ted wrote:I could say who I think is better or whatever but it would be BS.

What I saw this weekend was teams moving players around. That could of been happening because of the age pure thing and new teams / players or because of JDL.

I know that I did not see girls playing there normal positions and that could change in a couple of weeks.

HomeStretch wrote:

Zizou wrote:the independents could easily create their own exclusive league. Then they could boast their league developes players best and challenge the top clubs for superiority as they develope players. JDIL lol.

Or they can play in open leagues and prove development doesn't require exclusivity whenever they run into the bigs in a tournament....ya know... make the case with their play instead of their marketing budget.

HomeStretch wrote:

Zizou wrote:the independents could easily create their own exclusive league. Then they could boast their league developes players best and challenge the top clubs for superiority as they develope players. JDIL lol.

Or they can play in open leagues and prove development doesn't require exclusivity whenever they run into the bigs in a tournament....ya know... make the case with their play instead of their marketing budget.

SWINGIT!! wrote:

Lyin Ted wrote:I could say who I think is better or whatever but it would be BS.

What I saw this weekend was teams moving players around. That could of been happening because of the age pure thing and new teams / players or because of JDL.

I know that I did not see girls playing there normal positions and that could change in a couple of weeks.

So why did it take the creation of JDL or any other league for that matter, for coaches to start teaching kids to be soccer players and not just positional players? Are coaches that afraid of losing or upsetting parents?
Just throwing these questions out there for discussion.  Not trying to debate JDL.

Lyin Ted wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

Lyin Ted wrote:I could say who I think is better or whatever but it would be BS.

What I saw this weekend was teams moving players around. That could of been happening because of the age pure thing and new teams / players or because of JDL.

I know that I did not see girls playing there normal positions and that could change in a couple of weeks.

So why did it take the creation of JDL or any other league for that matter, for coaches to start teaching kids to be soccer players and not just positional players? Are coaches that afraid of losing or upsetting parents?
Just throwing these questions out there for discussion.  Not trying to debate JDL.

Yes, by the way great question.

Unfortunately we are a country of entitled parents in the sports and education world.

I read a very interesting article this weekend about how other countries respect their teachers more than we do. Which ultimately ends up in better educated students. I would imagine those same parents that are barking at the teachers have kids playing soccer as well.

05girls wrote:Let's not be pragmatic or rational when answering this question, let's be honest. What is the #1 goal of most coaches, teams and parents in north Texas? I would argue without hesitation that it is qualifying for D1. So that being what it is, what if there are 10 spots available and you fall somewhere inthe 11-20 ranks, how are you going to achieve that goal? Constantly trying to blast it up the the blazing fast forward you have? Maybe pack it in on defense so you can get some points out of a tie? Take that goal away in JDL. Perhaps some coaches will still do the above; however it's no longer socially expected

Last season in LH we played Andromeda Haylock who was overheard constantly yelling at his players to kick the ball as far out of bounds as they could in order to waste time. Why was he doing this if he was trying to develop players?

05girls wrote:Exactly, you just said it.  Appease the best player so they will stay and be a cornerstone while all the players in the middle watching the ball fly over their head never touch the ball and never develop.  Who cares about them anyway?  You are exactly correct.