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Re: 04 Girls JDL game scores for March 18th

Post by AngelinaGoalee on 01/04/17, 09:14 am

wazup wrote:
BigErn wrote:Wazup wazup --

So then why are you always on here talking about the fact that JDL created the ability for coaches to move players around.  If your team (and the top 4) is so good you didn't need to remove relegation from the mix to move players around - why are you constantly using it as one of the driving forces behind JDL?  Other coaches within and outside JDL move players around all the time.

Of course they do.  Maybe you haven't actually read through my posts?  Coaches have been doing that since the game was invented -- I've done it quite a bit myself over the past few years.

And yes - the opportunity to focus on "development without relegation" argument that I know you hate was sold BY COACHES AT YOUR CLUB as one of the positive benefits of JDL.

My Club?  Which is that?  As I've mentioned before, I'm sorry if someone "sold" you -- none of our team or any of the other top teams/players had to be "sold" anything ... they just made the squad.

So we can agree to disagree - you can mock the "development" comments not made by your coach, but made by those representing your club, and plenty of coaches with the risk of relegation move players.  

Alrighty.  You do know that every coach out there has muttered the word 'development' right?

But the primary reason of JDL as an engine of larger clubs was the consolidation of talent at an earlier age, and as a result, more $$$ delivered to support these clubs.  Now I know you hate talking money, and I know you are pretty dense on this so let me help you.  No one here ever said an individual team would make more money due to JDL - that straw man you raised was simply stupid, and honestly beneath you.  

Please enlighten me here ...

And absolutely -- consolidation of talent is exactly the point (talk about dense) ... of course the Clubs want to draw more talent.  However, you're contradicting your own argument -- The JDL is less about $ and more about drawing in solid talent in preparation of the ECNL/USSDA years.  The bigs (all of em) take in plenty of $ at the lower and younger levels.

In the past, the big clubs sold "the future of ECNL if you play with our club" to the U-littles.  Problem was, that was simply too far away for the littlest ones to have as much drawing power.  So by creating JDL based on CLUBS and not team QUALITY, the ECNL clubs could sell that to the U-littles as something that would impact them much sooner than ECNL, and guaranteed to their club.  The more they could sell their JDL "elite league" to unsuspecting parents, the more kids they draw at earlier ages.  The more you draw, the more $$ that comes thru the door - and if you don't think that more players coming to the club increases its revenue, then you are dumber than I thought.

An entertaining take ^ Sir.  It seems you may not know this but the JDL was created and is governed by LHGCL.  As much as many of you would like to think this, the bigs didn't get together over beers and contrive this plan to get more $ from "unsuspecting" parents (this is the entertaining part).  Sure, the JDL is for younger kids ... not sure what your point here is?  It's the same as it is in the standard LHGCL, just the top two teams from each of the bigs.  You'll see this trend continue even younger with ECNL + USSDA expanding to the littles as young as U12 soon Smile  What exactly is unsuspecting about any of this?  The bigs hold tryouts for their top teams and if your kid is good enough, she'll make it ... purty non conspirical, simple stuff.

So wazup, if you're gonna reply, let's make it a bit more 'thought out' and a bit less personal, eh?

And you would lead us to believe that JDL is purely a creation of LHGCL?

Either you play us for fools, or you are the village idiot here.

If this was all an innocuous concoction of LHGCL, then who made the decision that Kicks should not be allowed to participate without being rostered to D'Feeters?  I'll let you in on a little secret - that decision was made by 4 DOCs - NOT LHGCL.  

So, the rules were set (or at least adusted) by the DOCs - which is pretty ironic that a league "to prepare girls for ECNL" actually adopts rules more stringent than US Club.  If they had just simply adopted ECNL rules, Kicks girls could have played LHGCL on an NTSSA roster, and JDL on a US Club roster.  It wasn't "LHGCL" that shut them out.

Happy Belated Birthday BigErn!

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about sums it up

That sounds pretty valid as a theory...
I say theory because I'm guessing "we" will never know the truth.
Why wouldn't LH want Kicks and Dallas Rush in this "developmental" league?
Those two teams play quality soccer and JDL could have helped prepare "those girls" for ecnl if they chose to leave those clubs for ecnl clubs.

Unless...those DOC's pitched the idea of JDL to some other entity and LH caught wind of it and didn't want to risk it being too successful without them so they decided to "power" it themselves....

And I know JDL is just starting but it didn't have to be "that" exclusive!! (nor that damn far)

Solar Pulp
FCD JDL R
FCD JDL B
DTS
Sting Diaz
Rush Voutier
That's 6 teams...add 4 more and tweak LHGCL rules a bit and everything would have been fine...

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Re: 04 Girls JDL game scores for March 18th

Post by wazup on 01/04/17, 09:47 am

AngelinaGoalee wrote:
wazup wrote:
BigErn wrote:Wazup wazup --

So then why are you always on here talking about the fact that JDL created the ability for coaches to move players around.  If your team (and the top 4) is so good you didn't need to remove relegation from the mix to move players around - why are you constantly using it as one of the driving forces behind JDL?  Other coaches within and outside JDL move players around all the time.

Of course they do.  Maybe you haven't actually read through my posts?  Coaches have been doing that since the game was invented -- I've done it quite a bit myself over the past few years.

And yes - the opportunity to focus on "development without relegation" argument that I know you hate was sold BY COACHES AT YOUR CLUB as one of the positive benefits of JDL.

My Club?  Which is that?  As I've mentioned before, I'm sorry if someone "sold" you -- none of our team or any of the other top teams/players had to be "sold" anything ... they just made the squad.

So we can agree to disagree - you can mock the "development" comments not made by your coach, but made by those representing your club, and plenty of coaches with the risk of relegation move players.  

Alrighty.  You do know that every coach out there has muttered the word 'development' right?

But the primary reason of JDL as an engine of larger clubs was the consolidation of talent at an earlier age, and as a result, more $$$ delivered to support these clubs.  Now I know you hate talking money, and I know you are pretty dense on this so let me help you.  No one here ever said an individual team would make more money due to JDL - that straw man you raised was simply stupid, and honestly beneath you.  

Please enlighten me here ...

And absolutely -- consolidation of talent is exactly the point (talk about dense) ... of course the Clubs want to draw more talent.  However, you're contradicting your own argument -- The JDL is less about $ and more about drawing in solid talent in preparation of the ECNL/USSDA years.  The bigs (all of em) take in plenty of $ at the lower and younger levels.

In the past, the big clubs sold "the future of ECNL if you play with our club" to the U-littles.  Problem was, that was simply too far away for the littlest ones to have as much drawing power.  So by creating JDL based on CLUBS and not team QUALITY, the ECNL clubs could sell that to the U-littles as something that would impact them much sooner than ECNL, and guaranteed to their club.  The more they could sell their JDL "elite league" to unsuspecting parents, the more kids they draw at earlier ages.  The more you draw, the more $$ that comes thru the door - and if you don't think that more players coming to the club increases its revenue, then you are dumber than I thought.

An entertaining take ^ Sir.  It seems you may not know this but the JDL was created and is governed by LHGCL.  As much as many of you would like to think this, the bigs didn't get together over beers and contrive this plan to get more $ from "unsuspecting" parents (this is the entertaining part).  Sure, the JDL is for younger kids ... not sure what your point here is?  It's the same as it is in the standard LHGCL, just the top two teams from each of the bigs.  You'll see this trend continue even younger with ECNL + USSDA expanding to the littles as young as U12 soon Smile  What exactly is unsuspecting about any of this?  The bigs hold tryouts for their top teams and if your kid is good enough, she'll make it ... purty non conspirical, simple stuff.

So wazup, if you're gonna reply, let's make it a bit more 'thought out' and a bit less personal, eh?

And you would lead us to believe that JDL is purely a creation of LHGCL?

Either you play us for fools, or you are the village idiot here.

If this was all an innocuous concoction of LHGCL, then who made the decision that Kicks should not be allowed to participate without being rostered to D'Feeters?  I'll let you in on a little secret - that decision was made by 4 DOCs - NOT LHGCL.  

So, the rules were set (or at least adusted) by the DOCs - which is pretty ironic that a league "to prepare girls for ECNL" actually adopts rules more stringent than US Club.  If they had just simply adopted ECNL rules, Kicks girls could have played LHGCL on an NTSSA roster, and JDL on a US Club roster.  It wasn't "LHGCL" that shut them out.

Happy Belated Birthday BigErn!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big+Ern&defid=9639504

about sums it up

That sounds pretty valid as a theory...
I say theory because I'm guessing "we" will never know the truth.
Why wouldn't LH want Kicks and Dallas Rush in this "developmental" league?
Those two teams play quality soccer and JDL could have helped prepare "those girls" for ecnl if they chose to leave those clubs for ecnl clubs.

Unless...those DOC's pitched the idea of JDL to some other entity and LH caught wind of it and didn't want to risk it being too successful without them so they decided to "power" it themselves....

And I know JDL is just starting but it didn't have to be "that" exclusive!! (nor that damn far)

Solar Pulp
FCD JDL R
FCD JDL B
DTS
Sting Diaz
Rush Voutier
That's 6 teams...add 4 more and tweak LHGCL rules a bit and everything would have been fine...


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Post by Foxysoccermom on 01/04/17, 10:50 am

This whole thread makes me nauseous. I feel like I need to take a big ern.
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Post by Zizou on 01/04/17, 03:31 pm

Nope, you are correct. The big four are looking to eliminate the independent. Consolidate all the top players into their clubs and compete at the highest level nationally and within the region. So far with much success and growth. Get used to it! This trend will continue to grow.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 01/04/17, 06:03 pm

It's the matrix and the big 4 are the agents...

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Post by weeblewobble on 01/04/17, 06:09 pm

I guess I was lucky. My husband Frank sold real estate and the only person he ever tried to butter up was my mother.

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