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Post by FBR08G on 28/03/17, 10:15 am

Current Rankings ONLY include game results from 11/10/2016 through Present Date.  The goal moving forward is to have a minimum of 4 months of data including both league play and tournaments.  Games recorded as W-L-T.  Only full sided outdoor games played in 08 divisions against 08s will count for rankings.  Results from playing in development leagues are not be considered.  ALL OTHER TEAMS WILL BE INCLUDED.

FBR08G is publishing these rankings and maintaining the data.  The criteria and formulas are all 100% the same as BWG's rankings in prior age groups.  Games from development leagues will not be included in the rankings.  Games won in extra time will be recorded as a win and not a tie.  

The data has been collected for this age group for over 2 years and have consulted with BW Gophers for tiers and weights and general review of data.  The goal of this FBR is to provide a data driven unbiased look at the teams as they relate to each other.

Please keep in mind that this is a body of work that is published.  Because team A beat team B last week does not automatically mean team A is ranked higher than team B.  New games carry the same weight as old games.  

If your team is not included you can pm me and let me know where they are playing. Minimum of 3 games against 08 teams to be included in the rankings. If your win/loss record does not look correct please refer to your got soccer account.  If scores are missing you can pm or email them to me.  These may not be updated yet.  Timely reporting of games scores to your respective leagues will provide the best data possible.

*Note Solar Lanier/Richie have two teams registered in two different leagues.  The Solar Lanier got soccer account is registered with the 2008 9v9 league and those games will be associated with that account.  The Solar Richie team is registered gold 08 7v7 and those games will be associated to that got soccer account.

If your team has changed clubs or coaches please pm me the updates so I can reflect this accurately.

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Post by My Money Pit on 28/03/17, 10:55 am

Wow, 97 teams...that's a lot of dd's playing soccer.
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Post by ForReal on 28/03/17, 11:10 am

My Money Pit wrote:Wow, 97 teams...that's a lot of dd's playing soccer.

True, but smaller teams with 7v7.

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Post by soccerdadx1 on 28/03/17, 01:22 pm

My Money Pit wrote:Wow, 97 teams...that's a lot of dd's playing soccer.

Yes it is, academy soccer for this age group is full of teams that should be playing REC, this is going to be the age group you will really start seeing the business aspect of academy soccer...if you are willing to pay, clubs are willing to take you..I would say any team below let say 20th would struggle playing against rec teams

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Post by My Money Pit on 28/03/17, 01:24 pm

[quote="ForReal"][quote="My Money Pit"]Wow, 97 teams...that's a lot of dd's playing soccer. [/quote]

True, but smaller teams with 7v7.[/quote]


Fair enough. Some of these will dissolve as they move up to 9v9. Still good to see so many kids playing though (Even if they aren't as talented as Foxy wants them to be...).
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Post by Guest on 28/03/17, 02:53 pm

Not a lot of good coaches in this age group.

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Post by Foxysoccermom on 28/03/17, 03:06 pm

The world needs volleyball players too.
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Post by aives23 on 29/03/17, 10:03 am

soccerdadx1 wrote:

Yes it is, academy soccer for this age group is full of teams that should be playing REC, this is going to be the age group you will really start seeing the business aspect of academy soccer...if you are willing to pay, clubs are willing to take you..I would say any team below let say 20th would struggle playing against rec teams

Ok so I pondered on responding to this or not because I feel like 'soccerdadx1' may be just fishing here to get a rise out of someone.  Well obviously it worked.  I can't help myself on this one so here goes...   I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by saying that "any team below 20th would struggle playing against rec teams" because that is absurd.  We are ranked 54th, for now Smile , and I have all the confidence in the world that playing against a REC team would be a joke.  I guess I am just curious as to why you would purposely go out of your way to offend "teams below 20th" by saying they basically belong in REC leagues.  You obviously either have zero clue about the competition level (yes even in the 50 ranks) or you are just trying to stir the pot.  Either way, I took it offensive and I look forward to our team playing whichever team you are cheering for.

---Aaron Ives...out

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Post by ProphAC on 29/03/17, 10:38 am

I too thought the comment was extreme but posters troll a lot on these boards so I didn't say anything. Rec soccer is extremely bad and most decent players in rec have made the move to academy... it's safe to say that nearly every academy team would fair well against even the best rec teams at this point. It used to be that many decent players would stay in rec longer making the rec level talent better but I'd say most rec teams have been pillaged by academy recruiting with all the teams out there.

Don't sweat the comments Aaron... it's a message board.
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Post by Disposessed on 29/03/17, 12:24 pm

And don't sweat the rankings, they are way off. Margin of error is about +/- 25 spots, possibly more.

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Post by USWNT_or_BUST on 29/03/17, 02:21 pm

First, the rankings are definitely not that far off. Go look at past comparisons to Lake Highlands seeding and where teams eventually placed in Lake Highlands. You will see that it quite accurate. Secondly, I guess it depends what rec leagues you are familiar with. Many of the teams outside the top 30 have lost in tournaments to top rec teams from mesquite, waco, and many other rural areas that come here looking for better competition. So to pretend that any team in the 50'same is so superior to any recommendations team is crazy.

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Post by soccerdadx1 on 29/03/17, 02:55 pm

aives23 wrote:
soccerdadx1 wrote:

Yes it is, academy soccer for this age group is full of teams that should be playing REC, this is going to be the age group you will really start seeing the business aspect of academy soccer...if you are willing to pay, clubs are willing to take you..I would say any team below let say 20th would struggle playing against rec teams

Ok so I pondered on responding to this or not because I feel like 'soccerdadx1' may be just fishing here to get a rise out of someone.  Well obviously it worked.  I can't help myself on this one so here goes...   I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by saying that "any team below 20th would struggle playing against rec teams" because that is absurd.  We are ranked 54th, for now Smile , and I have all the confidence in the world that playing against a REC team would be a joke.  I guess I am just curious as to why you would purposely go out of your way to offend "teams below 20th" by saying they basically belong in REC leagues.  You obviously either have zero clue about the competition level (yes even in the 50 ranks) or you are just trying to stir the pot.  Either way, I took it offensive and I look forward to our team playing whichever team you are cheering for.

---Aaron Ives...out


My daughter plays on a top 12 team right now, we have played teams below the 50's and the game was over before half time. Have you even seen any of the current top 4 teams play Aaron? I myself would look forward to seeing how you fair against any of those 4 teams.. I will assure you, that game would be over in about 10 minutes of play. Those 4 teams play at a whole different level than anyone I would say ranked 9th or lower... So for your enjoyment, I think I will cheer for Liverpool Toshack...Good Luck

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Post by Mijo on 29/03/17, 03:00 pm

aives23 wrote:
soccerdadx1 wrote:

Yes it is, academy soccer for this age group is full of teams that should be playing REC, this is going to be the age group you will really start seeing the business aspect of academy soccer...if you are willing to pay, clubs are willing to take you..I would say any team below let say 20th would struggle playing against rec teams

Ok so I pondered on responding to this or not because I feel like 'soccerdadx1' may be just fishing here to get a rise out of someone.  Well obviously it worked.  I can't help myself on this one so here goes...   I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by saying that "any team below 20th would struggle playing against rec teams" because that is absurd.  We are ranked 54th, for now Smile , and I have all the confidence in the world that playing against a REC team would be a joke.  I guess I am just curious as to why you would purposely go out of your way to offend "teams below 20th" by saying they basically belong in REC leagues.  You obviously either have zero clue about the competition level (yes even in the 50 ranks) or you are just trying to stir the pot.  Either way, I took it offensive and I look forward to our team playing whichever team you are cheering for.

---Aaron Ives...out

Tell yourself what you want as you cut that check month after month. You get what you pay for... and you must pay quite a bargain to have your DD  play for the 54th ranked team. Normally, people would not want to put their name out there on a post as hysterical as this one, but to each his own...
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Post by aives23 on 29/03/17, 03:17 pm

[quote="Mijo"]
aives23 wrote:
soccerdadx1 wrote:

Ok so I pondered on responding to this or not because I feel like 'soccerdadx1' may be just fishing here to get a rise out of someone.  Well obviously it worked.  I can't help myself on this one so here goes...   I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by saying that "any team below 20th would struggle playing against rec teams" because that is absurd.  We are ranked 54th, for now Smile , and I have all the confidence in the world that playing against a REC team would be a joke.  I guess I am just curious as to why you would purposely go out of your way to offend "teams below 20th" by saying they basically belong in REC leagues.  You obviously either have zero clue about the competition level (yes even in the 50 ranks) or you are just trying to stir the pot.  Either way, I took it offensive and I look forward to our team playing whichever team you are cheering for.

---Aaron Ives...out

Tell yourself what you want as you cut that check month after month. You get what you pay for... and you must pay quite a bargain to have your DD  play for the 54th ranked team. Normally, people would not want to put their name out there on a post as hysterical as this one, but to each his own...

Well "Mijo" I am not one to hide behind some stupid handle name. That is what is referred to as a "Troll". I don't care if I associate my name anytime I comment on a post on this or any site... I have nothing to hide, but to each is own

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Post by ProDallas on 29/03/17, 03:25 pm

I thought I read that this post is about FBR 08, not FBR 98. It's great for those who can revel in their DDs playing on a top 10 or 12 team while they are 8 or 9 years old. But, I think we all know these girls' skills and abilities are going to change dramatically over the next several years. I remember the kids growing up who could dominate in sports when they were under 10. I was whipping many of them when I was 16, 17, 18 and into college. Meanwhile, many of them either didn't progress much or completely burned out and lost interest. I'm not sure about you, but I'd much rather achieve athletic success in high school and college than during third grade.

The FBRs seem to provide a thoughtful way to comparing the teams at the different age groups, which is great. But, to come on here and try to big-time people for having kids on a lower-ranked team is ridiculous. It's not like the majority of these teams have been together very long and in reality, the girls are at the very beginning of their development. That is, unless you think winning the trophies and medals during elementary school is going to really define an athlete's career in the long run. Nobody will remember or care about anything they accomplished when they were in third grade soccer, except maybe their over-zealous parents.
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Post by Mijo on 29/03/17, 03:27 pm

Hey, if you want people to laugh at your assumption that the team you pay for can beat a rec team, be my guest.  We know its probably not tue, but whatever floats your boat.

Go ahead and keep fighting the good fight ProDallas Rolling Eyes
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Post by ProDallas on 29/03/17, 03:33 pm

I'm not talking about rec teams or paying coaches for a kids' game. I'm talking about putting things in perspective and understanding kids at this level have a long way to go before anyone should be reveling in their FBR ranking.
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Post by Mijo on 29/03/17, 03:36 pm

Try getting that into any of these parents heads. Good old NTX soccer. Same as it ever was.
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Post by aives23 on 29/03/17, 03:37 pm

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My daughter plays on a top 12 team right now, we have played teams below the 50's and the game was over before half time. Have you even seen any of the current top 4 teams play Aaron? I myself would look forward to seeing how you fair against any of those 4 teams.. I will assure you, that game would be over in about 10 minutes of play. Those 4 teams play at a whole different level than anyone I would say ranked 9th or lower... So for your enjoyment, I think I will cheer for Liverpool Toshack...Good Luck

Yes I have watched them play.. I am not doubting the talent those teams have. My comment was only in regards to the REC comment. I went from saying that you were absurd for saying that a REC team would challenge our team and we are ranked 54th..to you talking about the top 4 teams and how badly they would beat us. It seems that I have wasted my time in even saying something in the first place. It is obvious that you are making comments on this post, or any post for that matter, to have the opportunity to brag about your daughters team. I am very happy for HER (not your) team and I am sure we will cross paths at some point... when we do I would gladly shake your hand and introduce myself. Like I said my name is Aaron Ives and I am team manager for the Dallas Texans Palomeque team. Good luck to you as well.

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Post by Mijo on 29/03/17, 03:39 pm

I think you are getting yourself mixed up here. I didn't say anything about the big 4. I can go on and on and we can circle the wagon 10x over, but we will leave it. Good luck with your Palomeque team.
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Post by aives23 on 29/03/17, 03:45 pm

Mijo wrote:I think you are getting yourself mixed up here. I didn't say anything about the big 4. I can go on and on and we can circle the wagon 10x over, but we will leave it.  Good luck with your Palomeque team.

You are correct and I apologize for the confusion. It was that 'soccerdadx1' guy... I thought that since I put his "quote" in my message that it was clear who I was talking to. 

Anyways my apologies for the mix-up.


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Post by ProphAC on 29/03/17, 03:46 pm

Mijo,

I'm a little confused as to what you are trying to accomplish.  Do you want non-top 10 teams to disband?  Do you really think the girls would be better developed in rec than by a non top 10 or 20 team trainer.  Just because a team is not a top 10 team doesn't mean the training is poor.  I have seen rockstar rec teams go independent academy as a team and get rocked by low end silver academy level teams so I know that teams outside the top 20 are better than rec.  Just because toshack would be up by double digits by halftime against a 50+ rank team does not mean that same 50+ team couldn't do the same to a rec team.


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Post by ProphAC on 29/03/17, 03:47 pm

Fair enough, Mijo... disregard.
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Post by Foxysoccermom on 29/03/17, 05:11 pm

soccerdadx1 wrote:
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soccerdadx1 wrote:

Yes it is, academy soccer for this age group is full of teams that should be playing REC, this is going to be the age group you will really start seeing the business aspect of academy soccer...if you are willing to pay, clubs are willing to take you..I would say any team below let say 20th would struggle playing against rec teams

Ok so I pondered on responding to this or not because I feel like 'soccerdadx1' may be just fishing here to get a rise out of someone.  Well obviously it worked.  I can't help myself on this one so here goes...   I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by saying that "any team below 20th would struggle playing against rec teams" because that is absurd.  We are ranked 54th, for now Smile , and I have all the confidence in the world that playing against a REC team would be a joke.  I guess I am just curious as to why you would purposely go out of your way to offend "teams below 20th" by saying they basically belong in REC leagues.  You obviously either have zero clue about the competition level (yes even in the 50 ranks) or you are just trying to stir the pot.  Either way, I took it offensive and I look forward to our team playing whichever team you are cheering for.

---Aaron Ives...out


My daughter plays on a top 12 team right now, we have played teams below the 50's and the game was over before half time. Have you even seen any of the current top 4 teams play Aaron? I myself would look forward to seeing how you fair against any of those 4 teams.. I will assure you, that game would be over in about 10 minutes of play. Those 4 teams play at a whole different level than anyone I would say ranked 9th or lower... So for your enjoyment, I think I will cheer for Liverpool Toshack...Good Luck


So win you say a top 12 team, I'm assuming they're #12.
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Post by ProphAC on 29/03/17, 06:22 pm

I thought the same thing Foxy
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