Latest topics
Here were go again - Games CancellationToday at 12:18 pmCheckpoint Charlie
Moving to DFW - need adviceToday at 12:13 pmChauffeur
FC Frisco Storm 03G looking for defenderToday at 11:39 amgiraffesrcute
FC Frisco Storm 03G looking for defenderToday at 11:38 amgiraffesrcute
FC Frisco Storm 03G looking for defenderToday at 11:34 amgiraffesrcute
Adding 1-2 PlayersToday at 09:37 amTexas Spurs 08G Blue
08 Boys Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 06:02 pmU90C
12 Girls Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 06:01 pmU90C
08 Girls Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 05:58 pmU90C
09 Girls Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 05:57 pmU90C
10 Girls Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 05:55 pmU90C
10 Boys Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 05:52 pmU90C
09 Boys Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 05:51 pmU90C
04 Boys Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 05:46 pmU90C
05 Boys Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 05:45 pmU90C
06 Boys Teams - Veteran Heroes Cup (Nov. 9-11)Yesterday at 05:44 pmU90C
Looking for 07 Team to scrimmage Yesterday at 04:37 pmsting71
06 Boys Teams - LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP (Nov. 16-18)Yesterday at 04:33 pmU90C
08 Girls Teams - Round Rock Open (Dec. 7-9)Yesterday at 04:25 pmU90C
is the High School level for girls just as bad as the boys?Yesterday at 03:35 pmDeltaTauChi
FC FAST needs 2 players in Frisco-Little Elm areaYesterday at 02:20 pmFC FAST 2011
Are Team dues new?Yesterday at 02:13 pmSoccerSuckers
07 Girls Teams - Upper 90 Challenge (Nov. 30-Dec. 2)Yesterday at 01:59 pmU90C
Sting Academy North - Looking for '09 PlayersYesterday at 01:12 pmStingAcademyNorth
Sting Academy North - Looking for '10 PlayersYesterday at 01:11 pmStingAcademyNorth
Log in

I forgot my password

Be An Athletic Supporter!
Donate and get this nifty tag!

Statistics
We have 12702 registered users
The newest registered user is Chauffeur

Our users have posted a total of 182799 messages in 24287 subjects

Club Management

Go down

Club Management

Post by ForReal on 03/04/17, 10:30 am

Curious what everyone thinks.  We pick our teams based on coach first, but with all the changes in the soccer world, club management has become increasingly more important.  What club do you think has the best management?  Best vision?  Best communication?  Best suited to adapt to the ever-changing world of youth soccer?  My questions aren't about financial backing, strength of player pool, etc.  I'm interested in the actual decision makers at the clubs and how the vision, or lack thereof, are communicated and implemented.  And while this topic is largely aimed at the Big 4, I'd be curious to hear thoughts about the larger clubs outside of the Big 4 as well.

ForReal
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 539
Points : 2908
Join date : 2012-05-22

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by db10 on 03/04/17, 10:35 am

By "management, vision, and communication" do you mean sending you your invoice each month? Other than that I'd love to hear about how clubs are communication their visions... Laughing

__________________________________________________
"Behind every kick of the ball there has to be a thought" - Dennis Bergkamp
avatar
db10
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 375
Points : 2520
Join date : 2012-12-09

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by SickofStupidity on 03/04/17, 10:56 am

db10 wrote:By "management, vision, and communication" do you mean sending you your invoice each month? Other than that I'd love to hear about how clubs are communication their visions... Laughing

Lol.  Some don't even do that correctly.

Vision??!?  Communication??!?

Some don't communicate to their coaches, how do you expect them to communicate to their players?

It is now April - how many of the clubs have set their coaching staff for DA, ECNL, etc., for next season?  Maybe it's early - but players are looking now and tryouts begin in a month or less.


Jack is always on here talking about these clubs as a business.  I don't disagree - but most businesses have a 1-year, 2-year, 5-year and 10-year plan.  Most of the clubs don't appear to be being run by people with any real business knowledge.  Can any of the Big 4 articulate their 5 year plan?

Maybe the plan is just "Sign up as many kids as possible.  Hire any warm body to coach them (regardless of license, experience, or the number of clubs they have left in the past 5 years).  Play soccer."


If your plan is just grow big, make money . . . I guess that is working for some.

If your plan is to recruit the next generation of soccer players . . . well then I guess all you need is a name and a recruiter.


If your plan is to develop the next generation of soccer players, let me give you a clue.  One or 2 good coaches in an age group isn't going to cut it.  E licenses doesn't cut it.  Hiring some guy who has been at 4 clubs in 5 years isn't the answer.  
Looking for independent teams/clubs who have excelled to fill your byes each year with outside teams isn't going to do it.

When was the last time your club asked you about their product?

SickofStupidity
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 882
Points : 2510
Join date : 2014-06-30

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by db10 on 03/04/17, 11:18 am

You don't need a business plan with a captive audience. If you're an 03 next year you'll have a D1 choice of Solar, Texans, Sting or 3 teams that will probably end up with one of those clubs. Want "independent" in D2 and D3, you have 3-4 choices combined.

__________________________________________________
"Behind every kick of the ball there has to be a thought" - Dennis Bergkamp
avatar
db10
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 375
Points : 2520
Join date : 2012-12-09

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by ForReal on 04/04/17, 02:24 pm

Is anyone willing to support or at least be neutral about their club's management?

ForReal
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 539
Points : 2908
Join date : 2012-05-22

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by Zizou on 04/04/17, 03:43 pm

Nope,

Zizou
TxSoccer Spammer
TxSoccer Spammer

Posts : 2333
Points : 4232
Join date : 2013-11-09

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by Guest on 04/04/17, 06:06 pm

My DD's club management is awesome! All the other clubs suck...

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by KeeperCommander on 05/04/17, 05:55 am

db10 wrote:By "management, vision, and communication" do you mean sending you your invoice each month? Other than that I'd love to hear about how clubs are communication their visions... Laughing
Ah TeamSnap, ice cream socials, and dues were $75 a month. Those were the days. Never to return again.

KeeperCommander
TxSoccer Addict
TxSoccer Addict

Posts : 1639
Points : 3514
Join date : 2013-09-30
Location : Sidelines watching practice

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by ElClassico on 05/04/17, 08:47 am

KeeperCommander wrote:
db10 wrote:By "management, vision, and communication" do you mean sending you your invoice each month? Other than that I'd love to hear about how clubs are communication their visions... Laughing
Ah TeamSnap, ice cream socials, and dues were $75 a month. Those were the days. Never to return again.
At least the coaches were licensed.
avatar
ElClassico
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 360
Points : 1998
Join date : 2014-05-01

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by newbiefornow on 05/04/17, 09:24 am

ForReal wrote:Is anyone willing to support or at least be neutral about their club's management?

I have direct experience of two large Clubs that my DD has been a part of and is a part of.  I have great respect for the Club management in both. They're running a business and need to be mindful of the financials associated with running a club but within those parameters they provide a great service to the Women's and Girls Soccer community. They generally want to develop the Club in the long term interests of it's members and stakeholders. That sounds like corporate speak and it is but there are a lot of variables outside a clubs control and a lot of work to keep everything going. So Support :-)

newbiefornow
TxSoccer Poster
TxSoccer Poster

Posts : 88
Points : 2093
Join date : 2013-04-23

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by soccerjack on 05/04/17, 09:29 am

newbiefornow wrote:
ForReal wrote:Is anyone willing to support or at least be neutral about their club's management?

I have direct experience of two large Clubs that my DD has been a part of and is a part of.  I have great respect for the Club management in both. They're running a business and need to be mindful of the financials associated with running a club but within those parameters they provide a great service to the Women's and Girls Soccer community. They generally want to develop the Club in the long term interests of it's members and stakeholders. That sounds like corporate speak and it is but there are a lot of variables outside a clubs control and a lot of work to keep everything going. So Support :-)

You must live in socal. Very Happy
avatar
soccerjack
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 993
Points : 2581
Join date : 2014-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by wazup on 05/04/17, 09:30 am

newbiefornow wrote:
ForReal wrote:Is anyone willing to support or at least be neutral about their club's management?

I have direct experience of two large Clubs that my DD has been a part of and is a part of.  I have great respect for the Club management in both. They're running a business and need to be mindful of the financials associated with running a club but within those parameters they provide a great service to the Women's and Girls Soccer community. They generally want to develop the Club in the long term interests of it's members and stakeholders. That sounds like corporate speak and it is but there are a lot of variables outside a clubs control and a lot of work to keep everything going. So Support :-)


Ok - let's play NAME THAT CLUB

Funny thing is - I wonder if anyone here can actually name the clubs you are talking about

wazup
TxSoccer Poster
TxSoccer Poster

Posts : 97
Points : 673
Join date : 2017-03-24

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by ElClassico on 05/04/17, 10:00 am

newbiefornow wrote:
ForReal wrote:Is anyone willing to support or at least be neutral about their club's management?

I have direct experience of two large Clubs that my DD has been a part of and is a part of.  I have great respect for the Club management in both. They're running a business and need to be mindful of the financials associated with running a club but within those parameters they provide a great service to the Women's and Girls Soccer community. They generally want to develop the Club in the long term interests of it's members and stakeholders. That sounds like corporate speak and it is but there are a lot of variables outside a clubs control and a lot of work to keep everything going. So Support :-)

And I've just seen a rainbow unicorn on the Tollway.
avatar
ElClassico
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 360
Points : 1998
Join date : 2014-05-01

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by soccerjack on 05/04/17, 10:03 am

ElClassico wrote:
newbiefornow wrote:
ForReal wrote:Is anyone willing to support or at least be neutral about their club's management?

I have direct experience of two large Clubs that my DD has been a part of and is a part of.  I have great respect for the Club management in both. They're running a business and need to be mindful of the financials associated with running a club but within those parameters they provide a great service to the Women's and Girls Soccer community. They generally want to develop the Club in the long term interests of it's members and stakeholders. That sounds like corporate speak and it is but there are a lot of variables outside a clubs control and a lot of work to keep everything going. So Support :-)

And I've just seen a rainbow unicorn on the Tollway.

No kidding....I just hit the damn thing...really messed up my car.
avatar
soccerjack
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 993
Points : 2581
Join date : 2014-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by SickofStupidity on 05/04/17, 04:11 pm

ForReal wrote:Curious what everyone thinks.  We pick our teams based on coach first, but with all the changes in the soccer world, club management has become increasingly more important.  What club do you think has the best management?  Best vision?  Best communication?  Best suited to adapt to the ever-changing world of youth soccer?  My questions aren't about financial backing, strength of player pool, etc.  I'm interested in the actual decision makers at the clubs and how the vision, or lack thereof, are communicated and implemented.  And while this topic is largely aimed at the Big 4, I'd be curious to hear thoughts about the larger clubs outside of the Big 4 as well.


You think D'Feeters communicated the Rush ECNL move to their current 04 team?

SickofStupidity
TxSoccer Author
TxSoccer Author

Posts : 882
Points : 2510
Join date : 2014-06-30

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by NoSpinZone on 05/04/17, 04:16 pm

SickofSilliness wrote:
ForReal wrote:Curious what everyone thinks.  We pick our teams based on coach first, but with all the changes in the soccer world, club management has become increasingly more important.  What club do you think has the best management?  Best vision?  Best communication?  Best suited to adapt to the ever-changing world of youth soccer?  My questions aren't about financial backing, strength of player pool, etc.  I'm interested in the actual decision makers at the clubs and how the vision, or lack thereof, are communicated and implemented.  And while this topic is largely aimed at the Big 4, I'd be curious to hear thoughts about the larger clubs outside of the Big 4 as well.


You think D'Feeters communicated the Rush ECNL move to their current 04 team?

Just posted it twice didn't they? Communication at its finest! I'm sure they will have a chance to try out just like everyone else.

NoSpinZone
TxSoccer Postmaster
TxSoccer Postmaster

Posts : 343
Points : 2143
Join date : 2013-12-27

Back to top Go down

Re: Club Management

Post by SoccerDad75033 on 05/04/17, 04:21 pm

SickofSilliness wrote:
ForReal wrote:Curious what everyone thinks.  We pick our teams based on coach first, but with all the changes in the soccer world, club management has become increasingly more important.  What club do you think has the best management?  Best vision?  Best communication?  Best suited to adapt to the ever-changing world of youth soccer?  My questions aren't about financial backing, strength of player pool, etc.  I'm interested in the actual decision makers at the clubs and how the vision, or lack thereof, are communicated and implemented.  And while this topic is largely aimed at the Big 4, I'd be curious to hear thoughts about the larger clubs outside of the Big 4 as well.


You think D'Feeters communicated the Rush ECNL move to their current 04 team?


Riiiiight. lol!

That being said, good vision to add some well-needed core to their ECNL teams.

Now hopefully they have some plans to fill the 03 holes.

SoccerDad75033
Annual Supporting Member
Annual Supporting Member

Posts : 123
Points : 2568
Join date : 2012-02-20

Back to top Go down

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum