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Re: Sting Complex Sold?

Post by J-Dawg on 19/06/17, 09:47 am

If the current deal falls through, a back up deal is already in place.
BTW, if you leave your house now you will make Sting practice in Fairview by October.

Enjoy

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Post by boilerjoe_96 on 19/06/17, 09:52 am

J-Dawg wrote:If the current deal falls through, a back up deal is already in place.
BTW, if you leave your house now you will make Sting practice in Fairview by October.

Enjoy

10 minute bike ride for me... to each their own.
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Post by bwgophers on 19/06/17, 10:49 am

boilerjoe_96 wrote:
J-Dawg wrote:If the current deal falls through, a back up deal is already in place.
BTW, if you leave your house now you will make Sting practice in Fairview by October.

Enjoy

10 minute bike ride for me... to each their own.

As nice as those fields are, and as much as boilerjoe and I might like the commute to FSP, if that is the backup plan, that will be a very bad move. For 90% of the Metroplex, East of 75/North of 121 = Oklahoma...

PIT+ is a much more tolerable option from the physical location standpoint.

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Post by SickofSilliness on 19/06/17, 11:32 am

Isn't it only fair to let parents know NOW what the plan is?

Keeping it a secret from everyone not on this board is complete BS.  And the possibility of moving practices from the Sting complex to Fairview, but not letting parents know 'til the last minute (or later), is effectively giving them all the big middle finger.

As Sting sits and spins, it will be interesting to see where the team fact sheets show that practice locations will be.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 19/06/17, 11:36 am

SickofSilliness wrote:Isn't it only fair to let parents know NOW what the plan is?

Keeping it a secret from everyone not on this board is complete BS.  And the possibility of moving practices from the Sting complex to Fairview, but not letting parents know 'til the last minute (or later), is effectively giving them all the big middle finger.

As Sting sits and spins, it will be interesting to see where the team fact sheets show that practice locations will be.
I am sure those fact sheets will be handed out right after they sign.
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Post by 2_cents_worth on 19/06/17, 02:53 pm

Sting already has multiple facilities available:
Sting Dallas Complex
Sting West Complex (TX Star)
Rolling Hills
Sting East Complex (RISE)
Sting North Complex (Adventure Landing)
Sting Central Complex (Moss Park)
The Pit Plano
Sting North (Carpenter A)
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Post by KeeperCommander on 19/06/17, 03:07 pm

Ha! You have more facilities than teams.
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Post by fc02 on 19/06/17, 03:19 pm

But of those facilities, they only own the Adventure Landing fields, right? And how many fields are there? 2 or 3, I think.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 19/06/17, 03:23 pm

This was probably a very high contributor to the passing on DA factor.
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Post by 2_cents_worth on 19/06/17, 03:30 pm

Not sure they own any of the fields.  No sense in making a big investment is something that doesn't generate revenue...like DA!!!
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Re: Sting Complex Sold?

Post by Mia Hamster on 19/06/17, 04:35 pm

This is no surprise. When you get a big 30 year perspective on the DFW "youth soccer scene", you will see expansion, contraction, acquisition, and occasional collapse of many clubs considered "cornerstones" of club soccer.

Many of you may or may not remember some of the "giants" of club soccer who are no more:

Longhorns, Andromeda (not the recent Andomeda FC), Comets, Genesis, etc, etc, etc...

Many fell due to acquisition, some collapsed, and a few fell due to some very public financial scandals.

Don't ever think that any club you know and trust is untouchable. If a club has lost many team/coaches, is about to loose it's premier practice facility then it should be engaging clients with some active dialog . . . especially with signing day on the horizon.
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Post by timmyh on 19/06/17, 04:47 pm

Still, it's surprising to see Sting starting to ease into irrelevancy (at least on a national level).
Those others clubs you name were indeed big, important clubs, but there's hardly another youth organization in the country - in any sport - that can compare with Sting's legacy. What they've done in the past 3 or 4 decades is incredible. The fact that we may be looking at the beginning of the end is shocking and I imagine isn't something anyone would have predicted 2 years ago.

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Post by SickofSilliness on 19/06/17, 04:53 pm

It isn't something a lot of people are predicting today.

(Well, at least a lot of people who are planning on signing with Sting in 2 weeks.)

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Post by PowerKick on 19/06/17, 04:57 pm

The biggest mistake Sting made was to quit DA which was the turning point to make itself a 2nd tier club.

It is good for the NTX to consolidate the talents into top 3 and compete nationally.

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Post by newbiefornow on 19/06/17, 05:04 pm

I wouldn't write Sting off just yet. This sort of thing tends to ebb and flow. My personal opinion is that stepping back from DA lost Sting several good players  from ECNL but as a % of all the players they have that's a small number. Meantime they've expanded their territory.  I know why they said they dropped DA but my sense is it was a mistake. Anybody committed enough to be on this board probably would agree but I stand to be corrected.

If sting can stabilize their ECNL teams enough to dominate that league and consolidate their geographic expansion they may actually be stronger when and if they decide to join DA.  Having the Big-5 creates some much needed competition in NTX. D'Feeters and Sting may find themselves at a disadvantage over time but they have time.

The communications about the Richardson Grounds and the DA exit could definitely have been handled better.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 19/06/17, 05:12 pm

Having the information and being too overwhelmed or not transparent enough is one thing. After the bashing they took on forum and still not giving it up is another. Having to start new fields from scratch takes some quality cash and they saw this coming probably for some time.
Looking at a model that literally brings in zero cash, only sends it out was prob the best non investment Sting has made lately.
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Post by SickofSilliness on 19/06/17, 05:41 pm

newbiefornow wrote:I wouldn't write Sting off just yet. This sort of thing tends to ebb and flow. My personal opinion is that stepping back from DA lost Sting several good players  from ECNL but as a % of all the players they have that's a small number. Meantime they've expanded their territory.  I know why they said they dropped DA but my sense is it was a mistake. Anybody committed enough to be on this board probably would agree but I stand to be corrected.

If sting can stabilize their ECNL teams enough to dominate that league and consolidate their geographic expansion they may actually be stronger when and if they decide to join DA.  Having the Big-5 creates some much needed competition in NTX. D'Feeters and Sting may find themselves at a disadvantage over time but they have time.

The communications about the Richardson Grounds and the DA exit could definitely have been handled better.
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LOL.  What communication?  To my knowledge they haven't had any yet.

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Post by ElClassico on 19/06/17, 08:58 pm

I have to laugh...

Sting is going on 45 years and Feet are going on 40, yet parents with 10 year olds are posting about their downfall.

They're not communicating because...

A. They don't have to.
B. Parents will channel their inner Chicken Little
C. They still are an ECNL club and will survive a coach or two leaving.
D. When push comes to shove people rather right a check to Sting than some independent club

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E. Who's getting your DD that scholarship, the pink ponies?
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Post by kimmie030507 on 28/06/17, 09:53 pm

I agree with you clasico, gullible parents will keep writing checks for bigger clubs rather than small independent clubs. the main thing here is transparency, i think it's shity that they have not informed their parents about complex being sold or what the future plans are for their kiddos.  one day they can show up and no complex to train at and now what? i think they should at least be honest and let them know what the plans are for when that day arrives.





ElClassico wrote:I have to laugh...

Sting is going on 45 years and Feet are going on 40, yet parents with 10 year olds are posting about their downfall.

They're not communicating because...

A. They don't have to.
B. Parents will channel their inner Chicken Little
C. They still are an ECNL club and will survive a coach or two leaving.
D. When push comes to shove people rather right a check to Sting than some independent club

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E. Who's getting your DD that scholarship, the pink ponies?

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Post by ElClassico on 28/06/17, 10:07 pm

(ugh, just realized I types "right" instead of "write" in my previous post)

Anyway...2 questions all should ask...

Do they know what they're plans are?
Do you think the success of a 45 year old club will depend on a few fields?

It's actually a situation every club has faced or will face. Property is expensive so most soccer clubs lease the land they use with the full knowledge it can be pulled out from under them if a better deal comes along.
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Post by KeeperCommander on 28/06/17, 10:12 pm

ElClassico wrote:(ugh, just realized I types "right" instead of "write" in my previous post)

Anyway...2 questions all should ask...

Do they know what they're plans are?
Do you think the success of a 45 year old club will depend on a few fields?

It's actually a situation every club has faced or will face. Property is expensive so most soccer clubs lease the land they use with the full knowledge it can be pulled out from under them if a better deal comes along.
It's ok. You are not Zizou yet.
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Post by CluelessinTX on 03/08/17, 10:34 am

To those who signed with Sting recently... was any of this brought up at signing? Did they acknowledge it, or give any indication of what their plans were? Any new information out there?
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Post by bwgophers on 03/08/17, 04:18 pm

My DD's team has practice there on Saturday...

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Post by Foxysoccermom on 03/08/17, 05:11 pm

bwgophers wrote:My DD's team has practice there on Saturday...

Better take bolt cutters.

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Post by Koba on 03/08/17, 06:35 pm

Only boots on that pitch will be the steel toed variety
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Post by TX Turf Burn 04 on 03/08/17, 06:42 pm

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Field StatusUpdated: AUG 3, 2017 @ 10:54 AM


Sting Dallas Complex Open
Sting West Complex (TX Star) Open
Rolling Hills Open
Sting East Complex (RISE) Open  
Sting North Complex (Adventure Landing) Open  
Sting Central Complex (Moss Park) Pending  
The Pit Plano Open  
Sting North (Cheyenne) Closed Unavailable until Fall

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