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2017 LHGCL QT

Post by purplefrog on Tue 27 Jun 2017, 12:32 pm

Lets see if we can get a good idea at what teams will be in the Qualifying Tournament.

List your team name here if planning to play in the QT:

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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by purplefrog on Wed 28 Jun 2017, 10:25 am

Well that was a disappointing response from everyone scratch scratch scratch scratch
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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by ElClassico on Wed 28 Jun 2017, 11:03 am

at this point is there a difference between LH D3 and PPL?
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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by JE5 on Wed 28 Jun 2017, 11:43 am

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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by JE5 on Wed 28 Jun 2017, 11:44 am

D'feeter-Kicks 03 Esquivel f: Dallas Kicks 03 will be in QT.
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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by CBTeamworks on Wed 28 Jun 2017, 12:36 pm

ElClassico wrote:at this point is there a difference between LH D3 and PPL?

No more gap than any other year. DA opened up a vacuum that was filled underneath it. Everybody moved up. D1 is now DA, D2 is now D1/Champions league, D3 moved to D2, PPIL D1 moved to LH D3. Of course all of those overlap just like every year.
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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by SD69 on Wed 28 Jun 2017, 1:05 pm

You forgot ECNL.
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Post by G21DD on Wed 28 Jun 2017, 1:31 pm

SD69 wrote:You forgot ECNL.

I would think D1 is now probably DA/ECNL.  Three DA and five ECNL teams.  What is the average number of players on these teams?

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Post by JewelsBMF on Thu 29 Jun 2017, 9:08 pm

G21DD wrote:
SD69 wrote:You forgot ECNL.

I would think D1 is now probably DA/ECNL.  Three DA and five ECNL teams.  What is the average number of players on these teams?

16 who are somewhat getting their money worth, and then another 7-9 who will greatly overpay to watch their daughter sit on a bench or not even attend the games.
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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by SD69 on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 8:25 am

With very limited substitution rules, even some of the top 16 will see very limited PT.
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Post by CBTeamworks on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 8:27 am

SD69 wrote:With very limited substitution rules, even some of the top 16 will see very limited PT.
Thus the benefit of dual rostering ECNL and Champions League players on LH teams.
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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by purplefrog on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 8:41 am

JewelsBMF wrote:
G21DD wrote:
SD69 wrote:You forgot ECNL.

I would think D1 is now probably DA/ECNL.  Three DA and five ECNL teams.  What is the average number of players on these teams?

16 who are somewhat getting their money worth, and then another 7-9 who will greatly overpay to watch their daughter sit on a bench or not even attend the games.

You can't put a price on being able to tell all your friends and co-workers that your daughter "plays" on a DA team
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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by CBTeamworks on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 9:27 am

purplefrog wrote:
JewelsBMF wrote:
G21DD wrote:
SD69 wrote:You forgot ECNL.

I would think D1 is now probably DA/ECNL.  Three DA and five ECNL teams.  What is the average number of players on these teams?

16 who are somewhat getting their money worth, and then another 7-9 who will greatly overpay to watch their daughter sit on a bench or not even attend the games.

You can't put a price on being able to tell all your friends and co-workers that your daughter "plays" on a DA team
That's a very real phenomenon that's identical with players that would rather get limited playing time (bottom 1/3rd) in LH instead of dropping down to PPIL where they can get more playing time and develop at a faster rate. From the parents standpoint they'd rather pay the high dollar for LH than PPIL as well and most of it comes down to pride and the illusion that LH D3 is a huge step above PPIL D1. You should see how some LH players view PPIL players that try out for their teams. Complete snobs to the PPIL players many times and that's before they've even seen if the PPIL player has game (which many times they do).

There's talent at every level and on every team regardless of the league. I personally heard that a rec player tried out and made one of the DA teams recently.
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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 10:32 am

CBTeamworks wrote: I personally heard that a rec player tried out and made one of the DA teams recently.

...and to think... no one believed me when I told them that DA was nothing more than glorified rec... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Post by GWood on Sun 02 Jul 2017, 3:14 pm

CBTeamworks wrote:
purplefrog wrote:
JewelsBMF wrote:
G21DD wrote:
SD69 wrote:You forgot ECNL.

I would think D1 is now probably DA/ECNL.  Three DA and five ECNL teams.  What is the average number of players on these teams?

16 who are somewhat getting their money worth, and then another 7-9 who will greatly overpay to watch their daughter sit on a bench or not even attend the games.

You can't put a price on being able to tell all your friends and co-workers that your daughter "plays" on a DA team
That's a very real phenomenon that's identical with players that would rather get limited playing time (bottom 1/3rd) in LH instead of dropping down to PPIL where they can get more playing time and develop at a faster rate.  From the parents standpoint they'd rather pay the high dollar for LH than PPIL as well and most of it comes down to pride and the illusion that LH D3 is a huge step above PPIL D1. You should see how some LH players view PPIL players that try out for their teams. Complete snobs to the PPIL players many times and that's before they've even seen if the PPIL player has game (which many times they do).

There's talent at every level and on every team regardless of the league. I personally heard that a rec player tried out and made one of the DA teams recently.

Exactly!!!

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Re: 2017 LHGCL QT

Post by Big Ern on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 1:30 am

bbgw wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
purplefrog wrote:
JewelsBMF wrote:
G21DD wrote:
SD69 wrote:You forgot ECNL.

I would think D1 is now probably DA/ECNL.  Three DA and five ECNL teams.  What is the average number of players on these teams?

16 who are somewhat getting their money worth, and then another 7-9 who will greatly overpay to watch their daughter sit on a bench or not even attend the games.

You can't put a price on being able to tell all your friends and co-workers that your daughter "plays" on a DA team
That's a very real phenomenon that's identical with players that would rather get limited playing time (bottom 1/3rd) in LH instead of dropping down to PPIL where they can get more playing time and develop at a faster rate.  From the parents standpoint they'd rather pay the high dollar for LH than PPIL as well and most of it comes down to pride and the illusion that LH D3 is a huge step above PPIL D1. You should see how some LH players view PPIL players that try out for their teams. Complete snobs to the PPIL players many times and that's before they've even seen if the PPIL player has game (which many times they do).

There's talent at every level and on every team regardless of the league. I personally heard that a rec player tried out and made one of the DA teams recently.

Exactly!!!

Holy HI-lariousness ... "Exactly" what?

The misconception is rampant.

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Post by purplefrog on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 8:42 am

ElClassico wrote:at this point is there a difference between LH D3 and PPL?

Yes, there is a big difference between LH D3 and PPL. I will admit there are a FEW PPL teams that can compete with a FEW LH D3 teams, but for the most part any LH D3 team would beat any PPL team. Same with LH D2 and LH D3. There are a few D3 that can compete with a few D2, but thats it. Same with D1 and D2, etc.

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Post by ElClassico on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 9:27 am

I think you need to watch some of these D3 teams practice this year. The player movement has hit them pretty bad. I have a feeling the PPL teams actually stuck together more and will be set to make noise in the QT. Think about it, wouldn't you expect a team of girls that have played PPL together for the past 3 years to be stronger than a D3 team who just lost 10 players? The 2 FCD teams may be the exception as I believe both have stuck together. And the one that has to re-qualify has a pretty good new coach. 

At this point LH has been watered down enough that you'd be hard pressed to find many difference makers in D3. Sure there may be some talent that has stuck around through loyalty but overall the girls are all at the same level. IMO this is the same level a lot of the PPL girls are playing at. 

I guess we will see in August but my guess is only 1 of the D3 teams from last year will re-qualify this year.
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Post by KeeperCommander on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 9:35 am

ElClassico wrote:I think you need to watch some of these D3 teams practice this year. The player movement has hit them pretty bad. I have a feeling the PPL teams actually stuck together more and will be set to make noise in the QT. Think about it, wouldn't you expect a team of girls that have played PPL together for the past 3 years to be stronger than a D3 team who just lost 10 players? The 2 FCD teams may be the exception as I believe both have stuck together. And the one that has to re-qualify has a pretty good new coach. 

At this point LH has been watered down enough that you'd be hard pressed to find many difference makers in D3. Sure there may be some talent that has stuck around through loyalty but overall the girls are all at the same level. IMO this is the same level a lot of the PPL girls are playing at. 

I guess we will see in August but my guess is only 1 of the D3 teams from last year will re-qualify this year.
If the LH teams were so watered down and lost 10 or whatever? Where did they get the replacement girls? My guess is many came from Plano. So except for the few that remained loyal to their team I would assume that many PPL teams are shuffling too. Just like every year.

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Post by ElClassico on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 10:10 am

I guess that's the big question. Maybe someone from AYSES or Mutiny can shed some light on the discussion? Of course I'm assuming the top PPL teams are planning to qualify as well.


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Post by Guest on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 10:47 am

Human nature...  Parents and kids generally like winning much more than losing...

Quite often, teams that get relegated have trouble staying together.  Losing breeds unrest and people go looking for greener pastures.

Teams that are at the top of the lower division and win a lot tend to stick together and carry that momentum in qualifying, and/or through their promotion into the higher division.

It's not rocket science to figure out...

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Post by ElClassico on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 10:52 am

bwgophers wrote:Human nature...  Parents and kids generally like winning much more than losing...

Quite often, teams that get relegated have trouble staying together.  Losing breeds unrest and people go looking for greener pastures.

Teams that are at the top of the lower division and win a lot tend to stick together and carry that momentum in qualifying, and/or through their promotion into the higher division.

It's not rocket science to figure out...

Exactly.
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Post by CBTeamworks on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 1:12 pm

purplefrog wrote:
ElClassico wrote:at this point is there a difference between LH D3 and PPL?

Yes, there is a big difference between LH D3 and PPL.  I will admit there are a FEW PPL teams that can compete with a FEW LH D3 teams, but for the most part any LH D3 team would beat any PPL team.  Same with LH D2 and LH D3.  There are a few D3 that can compete with a few D2, but thats it.  Same with D1 and D2, etc.

Disagree that there's a big difference between LH D3 and PPIL D1. More than a few top PPIL team can beat LH D3 teams. Bottom 5 of LH D3 are on same level as top 5 of PPIL D1. Flip a coin on who wins. That's not a huge difference. That's very little difference.

Regarding QT we know that AYSES was a goal away in each of the last two years. Teams that have good chances of qualifying include (in no particular order):
-AYSES Gold
-America's FC
-Lady Aztecs
-FCD WTX Yoshinobu
-RFC Black
-FCD ETX Haskins
-CDA Trophy Club

All seven of those teams are as good or better than the bottom five of LH D3.
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Post by Blues Fan on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 1:25 pm

So are you talking about the 6 that got relegated or the bottom 5 of the 6 that maintained their bye and are in D3 this fall?
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Post by soccerjack on Mon 03 Jul 2017, 2:24 pm

Call it what it is....lh is like a box of chocolates after age pure and club byes. I'm sure several ppl teams could've beat the bottom two d-1 teams from last year.
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