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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by soccertard on 28/09/17, 11:45 am

Wait...so I can come to this forum to see the "unofficial" results for JDL games? Why wouldn't I just go here:
http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=60971&Gender=Girls&Age=12

They clearly state the results.

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Post by unknownposter on 28/09/17, 12:34 pm

soccertard wrote:Wait...so I can come to this forum to see the "unofficial" results for JDL games?  Why wouldn't I just go here:
http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=60971&Gender=Girls&Age=12

They clearly state the results.

Did i miss the post that discussed Sting Black not playing JDL now, i don't see them on the list? so, that leaves them playing d3 for the majority of the team and 05 ECNL for a handful? wow

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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by jogobonito06 on 28/09/17, 12:43 pm

Most of them are playing. Sometimes with Sting Dallas, sometimes with Glotz. The others play ECNL.

Others you don't see on the list are Kicks Selecao, Sting West Rigsby, Feet Colon, Feet Perette, Solar 06 Academy and many more all represented.

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Post by unknownposter on 28/09/17, 12:48 pm

Sting West is listed as Dallas Sting (at least it shows that team being coached by Rigsby) under the 06 division. Feet /kicks i have no idea and solar 06 can be found in the 05 division.

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Post by TxFutbal on 28/09/17, 01:46 pm

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soccertard wrote:

Thank you for starting this thread.  Sincerely, D'Feeters/Kicks 03

LOL.. That is funny right there

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Post by OdoyleRules on 28/09/17, 02:05 pm

jogobonito06 wrote:Most of them are playing. Sometimes with Sting Dallas, sometimes with Glotz.  The others play ECNL.

Others you don't see on the list are Kicks Selecao, Sting West Rigsby, Feet Colon, Feet Perette, Solar 06 Academy and many more all represented.

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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by jogobonito06 on 28/09/17, 02:11 pm

OdoyleRules wrote:
jogobonito06 wrote:Most of them are playing. Sometimes with Sting Dallas, sometimes with Glotz.  The others play ECNL.

Others you don't see on the list are Kicks Selecao, Sting West Rigsby, Feet Colon, Feet Perette, Solar 06 Academy and many more all represented.

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Kicks Selecao is an 05 LH team

Yes, yes it is.
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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by LeftybutGoodie on 28/09/17, 11:36 pm

Below are the game results that were provided to me via PM.  Many thanks to all for providing inputs.  If there are any corrections or updates, please feel free to reply to the board.  Due to the sensitivity of some regarding scores, i will now retire from this role, effective immediately.  If there's continued interest in seeing the scores/outcomes, someone is more than welcome to take over.  Adios!


Week1 Results
DALLAS TEXANS 06 GIRLS DALLAS    2-3   SOLAR 07G JDL ACADEMY
D'FEETERS '06 JDL WHITE   1-0    STING DALLAS 06 GLOTZBACH
FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL BLUE   4-1   FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL RED
DALLAS TEXANS WEST 06G   1-5   SOLAR 06G JDL ELITE
D'FEETERS '06 JDL BLACK   TBD   STING DALLAS JDL 06

Week2 Results
FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL RED   TBD   DALLAS TEXANS WEST 06G
FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL BLUE   0-3   D'FEETERS '06 JDL BLACK
STING DALLAS 06 GLOTZBACH   0-4   STING DALLAS JDL 06
SOLAR 07G JDL ACADEMY   5-2   D'FEETERS '06 JDL WHITE
SOLAR 06G JDL ELITE   3-1   DALLAS TEXANS 06 GIRLS DALLAS

Week3 Results
D'FEETERS '06 JDL BLACK   3-1   FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL RED
FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL BLUE   1-1   SOLAR 06G JDL ELITE
D'FEETERS '06 JDL WHITE   TBD   STING DALLAS JDL 06
DALLAS TEXANS WEST 06G   0-9   SOLAR 07G JDL ACADEMY
DALLAS TEXANS 06 GIRLS DALLAS   0-1   STING DALLAS 06 GLOTZBACH
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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by LeftybutGoodie on 28/09/17, 11:45 pm

JDL06 Results wrote:Below are the game results that were provided to me via PM.  Many thanks to all for providing inputs.  If there are any corrections or updates, please feel free to reply to the board.  Due to the sensitivity of some regarding scores, i will now retire from this role, effective immediately.  If there's continued interest in seeing the scores/outcomes, someone is more than welcome to take over.  Adios!


Week1 Results
DALLAS TEXANS 06 GIRLS DALLAS    2-3   SOLAR 07G JDL ACADEMY
D'FEETERS '06 JDL WHITE   1-0    STING DALLAS 06 GLOTZBACH
FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL BLUE   4-1   FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL RED
DALLAS TEXANS WEST 06G   1-5   SOLAR 06G JDL ELITE
D'FEETERS '06 JDL BLACK   TBD   STING DALLAS JDL 06

Week2 Results
FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL RED   TBD   DALLAS TEXANS WEST 06G
FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL BLUE   0-3   D'FEETERS '06 JDL BLACK
STING DALLAS 06 GLOTZBACH   0-4   STING DALLAS JDL 06
SOLAR 07G JDL ACADEMY   5-2   D'FEETERS '06 JDL WHITE
SOLAR 06G JDL ELITE   3-1   DALLAS TEXANS 06 GIRLS DALLAS

Week3 Results
D'FEETERS '06 JDL BLACK   3-1   FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL RED
FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL BLUE   1-1   SOLAR 06G JDL ELITE
D'FEETERS '06 JDL WHITE   TBD   STING DALLAS JDL 06
DALLAS TEXANS WEST 06G   0-9   SOLAR 07G JDL ACADEMY
DALLAS TEXANS 06 GIRLS DALLAS   0-1   STING DALLAS 06 GLOTZBACH

For the JDL 06 team playing up against 05's, thanks for providing results.  They are listed below.


 
Solar 06 JDL  Academy 0-0Sting 05G Diaz
Solar 06 JDL  Academy 4-1D'Feeters 06G Black Hollis
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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by AtThePitch on 28/09/17, 11:47 pm

Ah, what the hell... lol

Week 1 Feet Black 3
Sting black 6

Hell of a game. Tied at 3 at the half. And yes Sting Black was all there.
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Post by AtThePitch on 28/09/17, 11:50 pm

Oh and week 3

Feet white - 1
Sting - 0
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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by soccertard on 29/09/17, 06:40 am

HAHAHAHA!!!! Post the scores and retire! Look everyone, I told you my DD's team was better than yours!
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Post by AtThePitch on 29/09/17, 06:43 am

Based on their post history... looks like a Solar 07 daddy.

It's all good. Been fun watching them all play. Keep up the good work 06s.
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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by 06Southgirl on 29/09/17, 07:59 am

BigErn. wrote:
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soccertard wrote:If you don't care about standings or rankings, then why is your name JDL06 Standings?  Why not name it JDL06 Fake News?  A good majority of these teams are playing kids all over the place, so who cares about the scores.

The name was recommended to me, as I couldn't use the previous name. But my initial post clearly stated, posting results/scores.  Sorry that the name was misleading...I was only planning to keep those who cared abreast of game results.  If you all have scores going forward, please feel free to post, as there are some folks that are interested...all others can stay clear if you aren't interested.


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Holy begeesus!
You don't care that you're ruining the development of a whole age group by keeping scores.

This ranking thing needs to be shut down if we want the 06's to have a chance. Whoever started it should be shot.




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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by NoSpinZone on 29/09/17, 08:12 am

AtThePitch wrote:Based on their post history... looks like a Solar 07 daddy.  

It's all good.  Been fun watching them all play.   Keep up the good work 06s.

Possibly, some mighty big egos to feed there, and a league without standings doesn't feed the beast.

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Post by Guest on 29/09/17, 08:33 am

06southgirl wrote:
BigErn. wrote:
JDL06Standings wrote:
soccertard wrote:If you don't care about standings or rankings, then why is your name JDL06 Standings?  Why not name it JDL06 Fake News?  A good majority of these teams are playing kids all over the place, so who cares about the scores.

The name was recommended to me, as I couldn't use the previous name. But my initial post clearly stated, posting results/scores.  Sorry that the name was misleading...I was only planning to keep those who cared abreast of game results.  If you all have scores going forward, please feel free to post, as there are some folks that are interested...all others can stay clear if you aren't interested.


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Holy begeesus!
You don't care that you're ruining the development of a whole age group by keeping scores.

This ranking thing needs to be shut down if we want the 06's to have a chance. Whoever started it should be shot.




Gophers should we take cover?

Nah... I didn't start it... I just perfected it... Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on 29/09/17, 08:42 am

BigErn. wrote:
JDL06Standings wrote:
soccertard wrote:If you don't care about standings or rankings, then why is your name JDL06 Standings?  Why not name it JDL06 Fake News?  A good majority of these teams are playing kids all over the place, so who cares about the scores.

The name was recommended to me, as I couldn't use the previous name. But my initial post clearly stated, posting results/scores.  Sorry that the name was misleading...I was only planning to keep those who cared abreast of game results.  If you all have scores going forward, please feel free to post, as there are some folks that are interested...all others can stay clear if you aren't interested.


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Holy begeesus!
You don't care that you're ruining the development of a whole age group by keeping scores.

This ranking thing needs to be shut down if we want the 06's to have a chance. Whoever started it should be shot.





I'll go out on a limb and say....the kids know if they allowed more goals than they scored and vice versa....the rankings HAS to be for the parents and coaches, kids don't care. just like kids arent on this crazy forum. My daughter only started asking about rankings when she heard me talk about it. I dont think rankings and the kids knowing about them helps or hinders their "development."
That task lies on the coaches, parental support, and kids passion.

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Post by Bodhisattva on 29/09/17, 09:36 am

NoSpinZone wrote:
AtThePitch wrote:Based on their post history... looks like a Solar 07 daddy.  

It's all good.  Been fun watching them all play.   Keep up the good work 06s.

Possibly, some mighty big egos to feed there, and a league without standings doesn't feed the beast.

NSZ quoting ATP is Inception like...

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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by TxFutbal on 29/09/17, 09:57 am

The kids don't care about the score or rankings for the most part at this age because there is no pay off for them. They do care about tournaments because they want the bling.

The reason why I am protective over JDL as a whole (not whether people know '06, '07, '08 or even the now defunct '05 division scores) is it hurts development of the girls. People will argue this point but no one will argue that once scores and records are kept the coaches competitiveness and ego now comes into to play and they will change their tactics and strategy in order to win the dang game. This means little Suzie who would be allowed to make mistakes and correct them on the field now gets pulled because of a mistake and her minutes are now managed vs. leaving her on the field to further her development.

Now others have said that development is done in practice.. I call BS on that. Practice is where girls learn the mental and physical aspects of soccer and where they train to become soccer players. Games are where development occurs because that is where they get to apply their mental and physical training to a real live situation. JDL was developed specifically for this purpose. To put kids in a game situation where they can develop and learn from making a ton of mistakes in an atmosphere that is conducive to learning.. It's like taking the PSAT vs. the SAT.. There is no harm done when you take the PSAT.. It's all about learning and preparing for the real deal. Do parents post on facebook PSAT socres? If they do, they are bigger idiots than I thought.. SAT scores are a different story because that is a record and is what gets little suzie into her parent's alma mater.

If you start keeping and recording scores in JDL the purpose and strategy of JDL falls apart. The parents and girls know how they played their match and what needs to be worked on. Score doesn't matter. Save the scores for tournaments and leagues where there is something to play for.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 29/09/17, 10:14 am

TxFutbal wrote:
The reason why I am protective over JDL as a whole (not whether people know '06, '07, '08 or even the now defunct '05 division scores) is it hurts development of the girls.  People will argue this point but no one will argue that once scores and records are kept the coaches competitiveness and ego now comes into to play and they will change their tactics and strategy in order to win the dang game.  This means little Suzie who would be allowed to make mistakes and correct them on the field now gets pulled because of a mistake and her minutes are now managed vs. leaving her on the field to further her development.

Now others have said that development is done in practice.. I call BS on that.  Practice is where girls learn the mental and physical aspects of soccer and where they train to become soccer players.  Games are where development occurs because that is where they get to apply their mental and physical training to a real live situation.  JDL was developed specifically for this purpose.  To put kids in a game situation where they can develop and learn from making a ton of mistakes in an atmosphere that is conducive to learning.. It's like taking the PSAT vs. the SAT.. There is no harm done when you take the PSAT.. It's all about learning and preparing for the real deal.  Do parents post on facebook PSAT socres?  If they do, they are bigger idiots than I thought.. SAT scores are a different story because that is a record and is what gets little suzie into her parent's alma mater.
So lets just look at the score situation for the 05's now. Argue if you will that no one cares about this age in JDL and that may be true. This age has been told that scores do not matter for a couple years. Guess what? Next year they will. At what point do scores and results start to matter. This year no but next year yes? That is stupid. You think that they dont care about rankings and scores only bling but they will be able to determine between it not mattering one year but it does the next. Kids are way smarter than you think dude. They know, they care and it matters to them.
Are you saying the they shouldnt get a score on the PSAT because it doesnt matter? How will they know what to work on? It is just development it wont matter till they take the real thing.

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Post by TxFutbal on 29/09/17, 10:23 am

You are missing the point. There is a score in JDL because the ref keeps the score. It is just not published. The kids know the score of the JDL match and they know if they played well or not. I am not living in candy land. Just like a kid knows her PSAT socre and knows how well she did/didn't do. My only point is there is no reason to post the scores because when you do, coaches are now held accountable for the "league results" and they get paid to win. All I am saying is the dynamics of the league will change. Why have JDL if we post scores.. Isn't that what LHGCL, PPL, APL, Primetime are for? If JDL teams want to keep score, go to QT and join a league that keeps score.

There are a TON of options out there to do so. If your coach chose not to do that, then he/she had a dang good reason not to do so and the parents/girls are aligned to the team goals. Maybe the club chose for them because they wanted to player pass JDL girls to teams that are playing in ranking leagues, or your coach is just an idiot who doesn't know how to manage a team/parents expectations.

I don't care what the reason is, but I do care about JDL staying true to its stated mission because it benefits the girls.. I personally don't give a crap if it benefits the parents.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 29/09/17, 10:33 am

TxFutbal wrote:You are missing the point.  There is a score in JDL because the ref keeps the score.  It is just not published.  The kids know the score of the JDL match and they know if they played well or not.  I am not living in candy land.  Just like a kid knows her PSAT socre and knows how well she did/didn't do.  My only point is there is no reason to post the scores because when you do, coaches are now held accountable for the "league results" and they get paid to win.  All I am saying is the dynamics of the league will change.  Why have JDL if we post scores.. Isn't that what LHGCL, PPL, APL, Primetime are for?  If JDL teams want to keep score, go to QT and join a league that keeps score.  

There are a TON of options out there to do so.  If your coach chose not to do that, then he/she had a dang good reason not to do so and the parents/girls are aligned to the team goals. Maybe the club chose for them because they wanted to player pass JDL girls to teams that are playing in ranking leagues, or your coach is just an idiot who doesn't know how to manage a team/parents expectations.

I don't care what the reason is, but I do care about JDL staying true to its stated mission because it benefits the girls.. I personally don't give a crap if it benefits the parents.
IF the girls know the scores and coaches know the scores then odds are the clubs know the score. IF everyone already knows then what is the harm? Cant be for development because everyone already knows them. If a team loses 10-0 several times do you think the coach is really not worried about his job? Development does not matter because appartently development is not happening. I hear your reasons, I do. Trust me if a team is bad then it will show. Whether you keep score or not. The coach can not hide behind development for very long. Also the original stated mission was they were not suppose to play in other leagues at all. Just JDL. You know because it was the best league anyway.

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Post by soccertard on 29/09/17, 10:36 am

So what happens if some of those scores are incorrect?
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Post by SickofStupidity on 29/09/17, 10:37 am

TxFutbal wrote:The kids don't care about the score or rankings for the most part at this age because there is no pay off for them.  They do care about tournaments  because they want the bling.

The reason why I am protective over JDL as a whole (not whether people know '06, '07, '08 or even the now defunct '05 division scores) is it hurts development of the girls.  People will argue this point but no one will argue that once scores and records are kept the coaches competitiveness and ego now comes into to play and they will change their tactics and strategy in order to win the dang game.  This means little Suzie who would be allowed to make mistakes and correct them on the field now gets pulled because of a mistake and her minutes are now managed vs. leaving her on the field to further her development.

Now others have said that development is done in practice.. I call BS on that.  Practice is where girls learn the mental and physical aspects of soccer and where they train to become soccer players.  Games are where development occurs because that is where they get to apply their mental and physical training to a real live situation.  JDL was developed specifically for this purpose.  To put kids in a game situation where they can develop and learn from making a ton of mistakes in an atmosphere that is conducive to learning.. It's like taking the PSAT vs. the SAT.. There is no harm done when you take the PSAT.. It's all about learning and preparing for the real deal.  Do parents post on facebook PSAT socres?  If they do, they are bigger idiots than I thought.. SAT scores are a different story because that is a record and is what gets little suzie into her parent's alma mater.

If you start keeping and recording scores in JDL the purpose and strategy of JDL falls apart.  The parents and girls know how they played their match and what needs to be worked on.  Score doesn't matter.  Save the scores for tournaments and leagues where there is something to play for.


A few questions -

Are the coaches approaching games differently since LHGCL keeps scores and standings and JDL does not? Especially those teams playing both LHGCL and JDL? More importantly, are the parents?


Assuming I agree with all your JDL talking points -

Is it really the coaches' egos and competitiveness? Are you saying that since scores aren't "posted" that the coach in a JDL game doesn't have an ego or competitiveness? He doesn't know the final score or care to win becasue the score itself won't be posted? That the posting of scores or ranks is the driving factor in how he approcahes the game?

And isn't the bigger problem the parents and their egos? Their need to be on the "wining team". Do you think that because scores aren't posted, they don't know that Suzie's team just got owned by Solar or Sting? They talk development all week long, but after the game they still want to get into the car and talk about the win. And at the end of the season, are they now looking back saying "good thing we weren't ranked, because I have no idea where we stand against other JDL teams". What you are effectively saying, then, is that parents focused on development can see beyond the scores and pressure coaches to win, but if we don't post scores, those parents will ignore the scores in the games they saw, and more fairly evaluate whether development occurred.


It's not just soccer parents, it's our community as a whole. How many times have you gone somewhere after your game with your dd wearing her uniform, or she calls grandma, or texts her friend - how ofter is the first question "did you win." Not "did you develop" or even "did you have fun".

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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by TxFutbal on 29/09/17, 11:22 am

If expectations are set appropriately with parents on JDL then parents are aligned. Again let the parents get excited about tournaments. Most JDL teams get to play a ton of tournaments because they aren't handcuffed to leagues like LH. JDL is like homeschooling for soccer training. If parents can't fathom seeing sometimes ugly soccer in JDL, then JDL is not the right fit for your group of parents/kids.

Do parents expect their kid to bring home a 100% on every single quiz, test, or homework assignment? Why do we expect a crushing win in every soccer match that the kids ever play?

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Re: JDL06 Standings

Post by SickofStupidity on 29/09/17, 11:24 am

Good dodge - you didn't really answer a single question I had.

And for once, I was being serious.

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