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Post by AbEnd on 20/10/17, 01:26 pm

MM, how do you feel about THE EVIL EMPIRE "Duuh Duuh da da da Duuh Duuh da da da Duuh Duuh software?

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Post by AbEnd on 20/10/17, 01:26 pm

aka J evin

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Post by FriscoSoccer2004 on 20/10/17, 08:00 pm

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Medicine Man wrote:You must be worried about that electric bill coach Jack. Your fired!


As the avatars change....so do the days of our lives.

I had to get into the avatar changing game!
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Post by Medicine Man on 21/10/17, 08:04 am

Hopefully you got your roster changes and CP in by yesterday coach. Who's  sitting on the bench today?

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Post by Big Ern on 21/10/17, 10:24 am

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SoccerPunch wrote:BWG Hating on Independent Clubs now?

Not hating on the Indy's at all...  

Hating on your ludicrous statement (or maybe it's more of a pipedream wish) that any of this is going to send people running from the Bigs to the Indies in significant numbers.

The number of families that are truly unhappy with their current situation is pretty small, and the % that are unhappy enough to do something about it is even smaller.

Not to mention that you're just as likely to end up in a crappy (or happy) situation at a small club/indy, as you are to end up in a crappy (or happy) situation at a DA/ECNL club...
It is funny how the largest % of people that are unhappy are the ones that were told exactly how things were going to be, by the coach and by others.  Yet only heard what they wanted to hear.  All these fake poster folks are just sad excuses for has been never was athletes living through their kids. smh

Yes KC -- Go on Son!

"Finally ... somebody said it" (Bob Sugar)

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Post by SickofStupidity on 21/10/17, 12:43 pm

So - I would wonder how you know that the largest % of people that are unhappy were ones told exactly how things were going to be, but only heard what they wanted to hear?

It is a simple, straight-forward question.

Were you there?  Was someone else there that told you this?  Russian spy satellites?  NSA emails leaked?  Cell phones hacked and used as listening devices?

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Post by TheKeeper'sDad on 21/10/17, 04:28 pm

The funny thing is it doesn't matter if you team uses CPP or not, this game is 100% about winning. It doesn't matter if your DD plays for a big club or an independent one like mine, most of these coaches only want to win. They will play the players they think can win if the game is close. If you're lucky you play a team that isn't very good, and every kid will get time. The good news is there are a few good coaches that are truly coaching for the right reasons (development of the kids). The bad news is most of them don't coach teams that play in Lake Highlands.

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Post by Medicine Man on 21/10/17, 06:19 pm

The system is a well oiled machine. Churn and burn.

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Post by Guest on 21/10/17, 10:01 pm

TheKeeper'sDad wrote:The funny thing is it doesn't matter if you team uses CPP or not, this game is 100% about winning. It doesn't matter if your DD plays for a big club or an independent one like mine, most of these coaches only want to win. They will play the players they think can win if the game is close. If you're lucky you play a team that isn't very good, and every kid will get time. The good news is there are a few good coaches that are truly coaching for the right reasons (development of the kids). The bad news is most of them don't coach teams that play in Lake Highlands.
No, they coach DA teams. Mwhahahahaha!

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Post by Medicine Man on 22/10/17, 05:26 am

It sucks to be on the teams where you got players showing up to help win games. I don't think most people like that especially if that hits into the team minutes when they play the whole game. Even more if they don't win.

That's a bummer, I wonder what they are talking about on the way home after a loss.

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Post by TheKeeper'sDad on 22/10/17, 07:29 am

It makes me wonder if the coaches realize they are jeopardizing their teams in the long run. There is nothing better to see a coach make a decision solely based on winning, and then not win the game. It tells the kids on the bench that the coach doesn't think they are good enough to contribute to a win. Keep developing your players and they will be good enough. Parents and coaches alike need to understand that at 10 years old it should be all about development. We can worry about wins when they matter (high school, college, or beyond). None of these kids will remember these wins or loses next year, but they will remember being benched for what was thought to be a better option.

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Post by Medicine Man on 22/10/17, 07:53 am

The development just gets worse at the older ages. I watch the older kids play and it's a lot of kick ball and not much passing. It's kinda sad. Maybe that why NTX is dwindling on the national stage and against other regions.

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Post by SickofStupidity on 22/10/17, 08:53 am

TheKeeper'sDad wrote:It makes me wonder if the coaches realize they are jeopardizing their teams in the long run.  There is nothing better to see a coach make a decision solely based on winning, and then not win the game. It tells the kids on the bench that the coach doesn't think they are good enough to contribute to a win. Keep developing your players and they will be good enough. Parents and coaches alike need to understand that at 10 years old it should be all about development. We can worry about wins when they matter (high school, college, or beyond). None of these kids will remember these wins or loses next year, but they will remember being benched for what was thought to be a better option.

That message is delivered with or without a win.

You think those kids on the bench enjoy watching the guests play week after week?  Evil or Very Mad

"keep" developing your players?  It doesn't look like much development is going on when those players continue to ride the pine while a coach brings down guests.  Funny thing is, those players on the "practice squad" pay the same amount as the starters (and guests, who are likely getting playing time on multiple teams).

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Post by Zizou on 22/10/17, 09:29 am

With the clubs changing the way they develope players through these pools. Players then should not be contracted and limited.

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Post by Zizou on 22/10/17, 09:31 am

Remove the contracts! Make these clubs have to work to keep your business.

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Post by TheKeeper'sDad on 22/10/17, 09:33 am

That's a brilliant idea. The contract is the only way the coaches can get away with what they do. Without the contract parents could do what's right by their children, and coaches would pay more attention to development.

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Post by Zizou on 22/10/17, 09:38 am

Why not allow players to get releases not only to rec, but also to a independent club.

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Post by Big Ern on 22/10/17, 09:39 am

Medicine Man wrote:The development just gets worse at the older ages. I watch the older kids play and it's a lot of kick ball and not much passing. It's kinda sad. Maybe that why NTX is dwindling on the national stage and against other regions.

If you're making this generalization after watching U13 and older out at UTD, you may wanna focus your attention elsewhere ... This way you won't be so sad.  Happy Sunday BigBoy Very Happy

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Post by 5050Ball on 22/10/17, 09:41 am

Good luck with that, there are discussions going on right now to possibly extend the contract down below U11.
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Post by Zizou on 22/10/17, 09:42 am

Yeah, have to agree with ern on this one. This year ECNL national finals NTX teams had a dominate performance.

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Post by TheKeeper'sDad on 22/10/17, 09:44 am

What happens if every parent on a certain teams all agree that none of them will sign the contract? Does that team no longer exist, or does the club have to make a change in order to keep that team and players?

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Post by Zizou on 22/10/17, 09:44 am

Payment contracts I understand, but player movement contract are wrong. You pay your fees then you should be able to control your decisions on what is right for your child. If another club wants the player then if’s contract has been paid. Then the player has control of their situation.

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Post by Zizou on 22/10/17, 09:48 am

TheKeeper'sDad wrote:What happens if every parent on a certain teams all agree that none of them will sign the contract?  Does that team no longer exist, or does the club have to make a change in order to keep that team and players?

You would be a independent of one.

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Post by TheKeeper'sDad on 22/10/17, 09:51 am

So that's the point of letting these select players pass, they get more touches and more development with the plan of them making up the future ECNL teams.

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Post by Zizou on 22/10/17, 09:54 am

clubs will look to keep as many teams as they can get in the LHGCL divisions to get players parents to pay to support DA programs.

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Post by Zizou on 22/10/17, 09:56 am

Big clubs will support potential relegation teams to keep the full paying customer coming..

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