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Post by Medicine Man on 22/10/17, 07:13 pm

Which coaches play their rosters? Very simple question.

The point of the term team is Dead is that the rosters change so playing w the same players you practice and sign w is not the norm.

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Post by Big Ern on 22/10/17, 08:19 pm

go99 wrote:wow If peoples kids work as hard to earn playtime as their parents work at whining about it there wouldn't be a problem.

You learn and develop in practice (unless your coach sucks) Playtime is the reward and also where the coach learns what needs to be worked on.  Your learning does not take place in the game and until you develop more players than some of the top academies and soccer minds around the world what you FEEL happens doesn't matter.  The biggest thing with playtime is it needs to be fought for and earned by the player which too often in NTX is not the case.  Don't like CPP shifting ecnl players, don't even like DA players for HS because it gives others the chance to play.  However if your kid isn't playing the kid needs to look at themselves and what they can do to improve.

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Post by Big Ern on 22/10/17, 08:49 pm

Medicine Man wrote:Which coaches play their rosters? Very simple question.

The point of the term team is Dead is that the rosters change so playing w the same players you practice and sign w is not the norm.

Since it's so simple, I'll take a stab at 'er ...

What is ... All of em but a handful of those with teams in LH D1 that utilize the CPP rule in a few games they feel they need to win -- So 90ish % then?

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Post by Medicine Man on 22/10/17, 08:51 pm

What's to earn is the question at practice when half the team.is not there to compete. What's the point of even trying if there's no reward. No motivation or development. Why is the coach even coming to practice.

You got dual roster and CPP there's a wide range of options.


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Post by Saul Goodman on 22/10/17, 08:54 pm

Medicine Man wrote:What's to earn is the question at practice when half the team.is not there to compete. What's the point of even trying if there's no reward. No motivation or development. Why is the coach even coming to practice

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Post by Medicine Man on 22/10/17, 08:56 pm

That's what I said in my original post. Team is dead.

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Post by Big Ern on 22/10/17, 08:59 pm

Medicine Man wrote:What's to earn is the question at practice when half the team.is not there to compete. What's the point of even trying if there's no reward. No motivation or development. Why is the coach even coming to practice.

You got dual roster and CPP there's a wide range of options.

If this ^ is your reality, you may wanna consider getting back to recreational soccer.  

You know -- for the love of the game ... just for fun ... no drama.

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Post by Medicine Man on 23/10/17, 06:18 am

There's only a few teams left BigE now everyone just wants players for their payroll. Development and team is dead.

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Post by Big Ern on 23/10/17, 07:51 am

Medicine Man wrote:There's only a few teams left BigE now everyone just wants players for their payroll. Development and team is dead.

is = 1

are = 2+

Good deed for the day ... check.

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Post by Guest on 23/10/17, 07:52 am

BigErn wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:There's only a few teams left BigE now everyone just wants players for their payroll. Development and team is dead.

is = 1

are = 2+

Good deed for the day ... check.
LMMFAO

i guess it sounded right

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Post by Guest on 23/10/17, 08:11 am

Development and money were issues a few years ago...if that's still one of the major qualms you have at this age then you need a senior adviser.

consider:
Private Training
Group Training
Extra touches
Part-Time Job
Pay-Day Loans
Personal Loans
Illegal activities that garnish BIG paydays
or.....another sport/another level, like Ern mentioned Rec gets you playing time, no extra fees, and lower commute times and shucks your kid may get a juice box afterwards (not sure if they still do snacks at this age?)

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Post by SickofStupidity on 23/10/17, 09:27 am

JonSneauxTargaryen wrote:Development and money were issues a few years ago...if that's still one of the major qualms you have at this age then you need a senior adviser.

consider:
Private Training
Group Training
Extra touches
Part-Time Job
Pay-Day Loans
Personal Loans
Illegal activities that garnish BIG paydays
or.....another sport/another level, like Ern mentioned Rec gets you playing time, no extra fees, and lower commute times and shucks your kid may get a juice box afterwards (not sure if they still do snacks at this age?)

Snacks are completely out. Could contain wheat, peanuts, soy, milk, GMOs, corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and may not be organic.

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Post by Guest on 23/10/17, 09:47 am

No kidding!!
Probably just get a lecture about cyber bullying and other forms of digital mayhem they should be conscious about.

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Post by Guest on 23/10/17, 09:49 am

SickofStupidity wrote:

Could contain wheat, peanuts, soy, milk, GMOs, corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and may not be organic.

I think you just described MM's version of an NTX select soccer team...

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Post by KeeperCommander on 23/10/17, 09:54 am

bwgophers wrote:
SickofStupidity wrote:

Could contain wheat, peanuts, soy, milk, GMOs, corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and may not be organic.

I think you just described MM's version of an NTX select soccer team...
I think SOS just described MM.

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Post by Lefty on 23/10/17, 10:22 am

Medicine Man wrote:Dual rosters, pooled play, CPP, greed and deception has ruined soccer in NTX. There is no such term as team anymore.

Been that way for many years.

TEAM only existed in concept to allow clubs and coaches to get players to sign contracts to guarantee their income for the year.

In reality clubs would prefer to get players to sign the contract with the club with no reference to coach, team, league, etc. so they have 100% control over decision making.

Kind of like the way the rest of the work does it with one significant exception.  

PAY to PLAY.

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Post by Big Ern on 23/10/17, 10:47 am

Lefty wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:Dual rosters, pooled play, CPP, greed and deception has ruined soccer in NTX. There is no such term as team anymore.

Been that way for many years.

TEAM only existed in concept to allow clubs and coaches to get players to sign contracts to guarantee their income for the year.

In reality clubs would prefer to get players to sign the contract with the club with no reference to coach, team, league, etc. so they have 100% control over decision making.

Kind of like the way the rest of the work does it with one significant exception.  

PAY to PLAY.

Sure would be difficult to pay for the professional coaching and training space without those club dues though wouldn't it.  

Until the MLS has cash flow equivalent to the NFL, or Bill Gates decides to fund US Soccer, we'll have to continue to cough it up --

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Post by KeeperCommander on 23/10/17, 11:34 am

BigErn wrote:
Lefty wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:Dual rosters, pooled play, CPP, greed and deception has ruined soccer in NTX. There is no such term as team anymore.

Been that way for many years.

TEAM only existed in concept to allow clubs and coaches to get players to sign contracts to guarantee their income for the year.

In reality clubs would prefer to get players to sign the contract with the club with no reference to coach, team, league, etc. so they have 100% control over decision making.

Kind of like the way the rest of the work does it with one significant exception.  

PAY to PLAY.

Sure would be difficult to pay for the professional coaching and training space without those club dues though wouldn't it.  

Until the MLS has cash flow equivalent to the NFL, or Bill Gates decides to fund US Soccer, we'll have to continue to cough it up --
And we all know that equivalency will not happen.

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Post by Medicine Man on 24/10/17, 05:52 am

Dead on Arrival. At this point teams looking for players just need to pad their pockets to.pay their electric bill.

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Post by Zizou on 24/10/17, 10:53 am

KeeperCommander wrote:
BigErn wrote:
Lefty wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:Dual rosters, pooled play, CPP, greed and deception has ruined soccer in NTX. There is no such term as team anymore.

Been that way for many years.

TEAM only existed in concept to allow clubs and coaches to get players to sign contracts to guarantee their income for the year.

In reality clubs would prefer to get players to sign the contract with the club with no reference to coach, team, league, etc. so they have 100% control over decision making.

Kind of like the way the rest of the work does it with one significant exception.  

PAY to PLAY.

Sure would be difficult to pay for the professional coaching and training space without those club dues though wouldn't it.  

Until the MLS has cash flow equivalent to the NFL, or Bill Gates decides to fund US Soccer, we'll have to continue to cough it up --
And we all know that equivalency will not happen.


I understand the pay for training space, but to insinuate that all coaches in NTX are professionals is laughable.

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Post by Zizou on 24/10/17, 10:59 am

NTX needs a coaching pay scale that promotes those coaches that one come with the credentials, two are willing to further educate to obtain, and finally put in the time or have the skins to prove it. We have too many Tom, Dicks , and Tracy picking up pay checks at the expense of parents victims of their own ignorance and a corrupt system with zero checks and balances.

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Post by Medicine Man on 24/10/17, 11:22 am

Some of it is not knowing more so for the younger players and parents. The ones who are involved learn quickly that the club path isn't right for them and go to alternate options for their goals. The others don't get involved and drop them off w little expectations or aspirations. That's my short perception. It didn't take too long to figure it out Zizou.


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Post by KeeperCommander on 24/10/17, 11:22 am

Zizou wrote:NTX needs a coaching pay scale that promotes those coaches that one come with the credentials, two are willing to further educate to obtain, and finally put in the time or have the skins to prove it. We have too many Tom, Dicks , and Tracy picking up pay checks at the expense of parents victims of their own ignorance and a corrupt system with zero checks and balances.
You may have a point. Exception being that there are "some" good coaches that do not have or have not obtained the proper licensing. I know some very inept A License coaches that would not go near my DD. Some that seem to get the very best out of the kids but doesnt teach them quite what I would want them to learn. Just opinion on what someone considers best or worst.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 24/10/17, 11:25 am

Medicine Man wrote:Some of it is not knowing more so for the younger players and parents. The ones who are involved learn quickly that the club path isn't right for them and go to alternate options for their goals. The others don't get involved and drop them off w little expectations or aspirations. That's my short perception. It didn't take too long to figure it out Zizou.
That was actually a well thought out statement instead of the constant team is dead drivel you usually spout off.

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Post by Big Ern on 24/10/17, 11:30 am

Zizou wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:
BigErn wrote:
Lefty wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:Dual rosters, pooled play, CPP, greed and deception has ruined soccer in NTX. There is no such term as team anymore.

Been that way for many years.

TEAM only existed in concept to allow clubs and coaches to get players to sign contracts to guarantee their income for the year.

In reality clubs would prefer to get players to sign the contract with the club with no reference to coach, team, league, etc. so they have 100% control over decision making.

Kind of like the way the rest of the work does it with one significant exception.  

PAY to PLAY.

Sure would be difficult to pay for the professional coaching and training space without those club dues though wouldn't it.  

Until the MLS has cash flow equivalent to the NFL, or Bill Gates decides to fund US Soccer, we'll have to continue to cough it up --
And we all know that equivalency will not happen.


I understand the pay for training space, but to insinuate that all coaches in NTX are professionals is laughable.

Agreed Zizou and not sure (at least I haven't seen) that anyone has insinuated that all coaches in NTX should be considered 'professionals'.  However, by definition, if you are paid for it, it is technically a profession making many undeserving coaches 'professionals'.  

As some of us have argued for years ...

Too many kids playing competitive soccer that shouldn't be = too many coaches coaching competitive soccer that shouldn't be.

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Post by Medicine Man on 24/10/17, 11:32 am

Zizou actually had something that wasn't jaded.

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