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Post by SkeetsG06 15/01/18, 08:41 pm

I have a 99 & 06 DD. Over the past 9 yrs, I have observed many coaches in the DFW area. I learned a lot about DFW soccer as well as the national scene through My 99/00. My 06 DD has played with Sting Black Guitierrez from the inception of the team 4 years ago. I am not going to provide attribute comparison of various teams or coaches. My point is She has done a great job with this team and they have dominated the 06 space locally and nationally.

I believe DTS is a very good team that coach Adames has developed well.

Not sure if Pulp and Colvin are still in the space but are good coaches.

Ring is good as well.

Ultimately you have to find the right fit for your DD from a coach and a team standpoint. The best of anything rests with individual fit/perspectives. I am confident you can find the best coach for your DD in DFW. Best of luck!

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Post by Zizou 15/01/18, 08:53 pm

Big Ern wrote:I believe CP just trains them occasionally -

The question you ask of Solar as a parent is who is AS going to be coaching?

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Post by Medicine Man 15/01/18, 09:08 pm

How's things in Wylie?

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Bone cold !

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Post by Nathanial Hörnblowér 16/01/18, 01:20 pm

TxFutbal wrote:6 of the D2 teams are just as good if not better than 6 of the D1 teams.

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Post by Medicine Man 16/01/18, 04:08 pm

There's some recreational teams in Primetime that could beat half the teams in LH.

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Post by Nathanial Hörnblowér 16/01/18, 04:15 pm

I know, they just choose not to.

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Post by TxFutbal 16/01/18, 06:36 pm

Below are the US Soccer Rankings. Statistically and based on recent tournament performance there is about 1/2 to a 1 goal differential between the bottom 6 D1 teams and the D2 teams. This means on any given weekend the bottom half of the D1 division could lose to the D2 division. Look at recent tournaments and you will see some D2 teams have in fact beaten D1 teams. In some instances D2 teams have beaten some Top 5 D1 teams.

Before you say "wrong".. do some homework.

Rank Team Score LHGCL
1 DALLAS TEXANS SOUTH [3] 33.12 D1
2 STING SC DALLAS BLACK [6] 32.8 D3
3 SOLAR SC JDL ACADEMY [19] 31.44 JDL Only
4 FC DALLAS YOUTH JDL WHITE [51] 30.55 JDL Only
5 TEXAS SPIRIT MONK [58] 30.36 D1
6 STING SC DALLAS GLOTZBACH [61] 30.33 JDL Only
7 FC DALLAS YOUTH JDL BLUE [72] 30.15 JDL Only
8 SOLAR SC JDL ELITE [78] 30.06 JDL Only
9 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEST MARISCAL [80] 30.03 D1
10 FC DALLAS YOUTH PREMIER [118] 29.68 D1
11 FC DALLAS YOUTH EAST [125] 29.6 D1
12 SOLAR SC BYARS [131] 29.53 D1
13 DFEETERS COLON [134] 29.52 D1
14 FC DALLAS YOUTH SOUTH [135] 29.5 D1
15 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA LIDDELL [151] 29.37 D3
16 DALLAS TEXANS [167] 29.26 D1
17 FC DALLAS WTX GIBBS [211] 29
18 DALLAS KICKS DFEETERS PERETTE [215] 28.97 D2
19 DFEETERS ANGELL STING NORTH ANGELL [230] 28.93 D1
20 IMPACT FC FT WORTH ROYAL [258] 28.8
21 DFEETERS BLACK HOLLIS [261] 28.8 D2
22 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA RAISBECK [281] 28.7 D2
23 TRIUMPH FC FUTBOL STERLING [306] 28.51 D2
24 FC DALLAS YOUTH BLACK [316] 28.44 D2
25 FEVER UNITED FINGER [321] 28.41 D2
26 STING SC WEST RIGSBY [335] 28.32
27 SOLAR SC NAIZER [340] 28.3 D2
28 SOLAR SC HAYLOCK [342] 28.29 D2
29 MUTINY FC MAROON [347] 28.27 D2
30 FC DALLAS YOUTH EAST RED [375] 28.18
31 DALLAS TEXANS RED WEST FKAMIDCITIES [384] 28.13
32 FC DALLAS YOUTH CENTRAL [394] 28.1 D2

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Post by SkeetsG06 16/01/18, 08:35 pm

Tx Futbol -

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You know I don’t agree DTS should be ranked above SB! ...that math doesn’t make sense at all AND I don’t mean any disrespect to DTS. Just saying The results against top 06 teams aren’t even close.

As far D1 vs D2, doesn’t state CUP sort out the pretenders vs contenders. I believe the D1 teams did better?

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Post by TxFutbal 16/01/18, 09:06 pm

how many of the state cup teams from last year loaded up on JDL players? State Cup is not representative of true team results..
SB vs TXS is statistically insignificant.. True to whenever they play. Always a good match and the win/loss record between the 2 is not lopsided by any stretch

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Post by Nathanial Hörnblowér 16/01/18, 09:19 pm

TxFutbal wrote:Below are the US Soccer Rankings.  Statistically and based on recent tournament performance there is about 1/2 to a 1 goal differential between the bottom 6 D1 teams and the D2 teams.  This means on any given weekend the bottom half of the D1 division could lose to the D2 division. Look at recent tournaments and you will see some D2 teams have in fact beaten D1 teams.  In some instances D2 teams have beaten some Top 5 D1 teams.

Before you say "wrong"..  do some homework.

Rank Team                                                                Score LHGCL
1 DALLAS TEXANS SOUTH [3]                        33.12 D1
2 STING SC DALLAS BLACK [6]                        32.8          D3
3 SOLAR SC JDL ACADEMY [19]                        31.44 JDL Only
4 FC DALLAS YOUTH JDL WHITE [51]                30.55 JDL Only
5 TEXAS SPIRIT MONK [58]                                30.36 D1
6 STING SC DALLAS GLOTZBACH [61]                30.33 JDL Only
7 FC DALLAS YOUTH JDL BLUE [72]                30.15 JDL Only
8 SOLAR SC JDL ELITE [78]                                30.06 JDL Only
9 FC DALLAS YOUTH WEST MARISCAL [80]        30.03 D1
10 FC DALLAS YOUTH PREMIER [118]                29.68 D1
11 FC DALLAS YOUTH EAST [125]                        29.6        D1
12 SOLAR SC BYARS [131]                                29.53 D1
13 DFEETERS COLON [134]                                29.52 D1
14 FC DALLAS YOUTH SOUTH [135]                        29.5        D1
15 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA LIDDELL [151]        29.37 D3
16 DALLAS TEXANS [167]                                29.26 D1
17 FC DALLAS WTX GIBBS [211]                        29
18 DALLAS KICKS DFEETERS PERETTE [215]        28.97 D2
19 DFEETERS ANGELL STING NORTH ANGELL [230] 28.93 D1
20 IMPACT FC FT WORTH ROYAL [258]                28.8
21 DFEETERS BLACK HOLLIS [261]                        28.8        D2
22 LIVERPOOL FC AMERICA RAISBECK [281]        28.7        D2
23 TRIUMPH FC FUTBOL STERLING [306]                28.51 D2
24 FC DALLAS YOUTH BLACK [316]                        28.44 D2
25 FEVER UNITED FINGER [321]                        28.41 D2
26 STING SC WEST RIGSBY [335]                        28.32
27 SOLAR SC NAIZER [340]                                28.3        D2
28 SOLAR SC HAYLOCK [342]                                28.29 D2
29 MUTINY FC MAROON [347]                                28.27 D2
30 FC DALLAS YOUTH EAST RED [375]                28.18
31 DALLAS TEXANS RED WEST FKAMIDCITIES [384] 28.13
32 FC DALLAS YOUTH CENTRAL [394]                28.1        D2

Between this post and that first book you wrote, it's almost like you understand that the victory margins outside of a small few teams are pretty much always tiny. I love that site by the way- I think their rankings are as spot on as they could possibly be without being at every game (which you obviously are not, with your "long ball" designation for multiple teams). Infinitely better than gotsoccer.

Out of curiosity, which D2 teams beat top 5 D1 teams recently? I honestly don't know. I have a sneaking suspicion you're going to tell me a D'Feeters team did though.

And I think it's funny that you think any of the psychos on this site are forgetting to do their homework, lmao.

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Post by SkeetsG06 16/01/18, 09:28 pm

I agree many teams were loaded up with JDL players and will happen again this year.  

For me DTS is the only team that plays SB straight up.  Therefore the games are exciting.  My point is the results suggest SB should #1 by a wide margin.  Head to head SB is 3-1 vs DTS.  SB track record in national tournaments is unmatched and is the biggest reason why the comparison should not be close.  I can’t think of another team that has been as successful.  DTS is clearly #2 in Texas and Top 5 nationally IMO.

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Post by Medicine Man 16/01/18, 09:34 pm

If I am correct 2 teams are legit and the rest is any given weekend.

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Post by Nathanial Hörnblowér 16/01/18, 09:42 pm

Not exactly, but not terribly far off.  The difference between 3rd and 10th is ten points.  Pretty wide.  And the only team with a wide PF/PA margin is DTS. Very wide.

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Post by Nathanial Hörnblowér 16/01/18, 09:44 pm

But they're all playing each other. Not D2 or D3 teams. Again, I don't know any recent tournament results personally so I can't comment on those.

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Post by TxFutbal 17/01/18, 07:41 am

There is a 1.76 goal differential between 3rd and 10th place. This means the 3rd ranked team should beat the 10th ranked team by almost 2 goals.

D1 Sting-Feet Angell has a score of 28.93 and D2 Triumph has a score of 28.51. There is less than a 1/2 goal differential between these two teams which means that the game should end in a tie score or there will be a 1 play differential such as a PK or a long ball or a squirrel finds an acorn play that could but either team in the win column.

Yes there is a wide goal margin between the two Goliaths (SB Nation/TXS) and the rest of the mere mortals in the '06s. This is why these 2 teams generally win by 4 goals or more. For the rest of the '06s it's an MMA (oops sorry forgot Cat Webb's White Wlakers are '07s).. excuse me.. It's a battle between the not as mighty's week in and week out.

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Post by TxFutbal 17/01/18, 07:53 am

Let's see. Naizer beat FC East, Triumph ties FC East in a recent U12 tournament. Isn't FC East in the top 4 in D1?

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Post by playerpass666 17/01/18, 08:00 am

Skeets you are usually right on. I agree with you about SB being best of the best currently, but DTS South is not a #5 ranked team nationally. Just because you win subpar events around the state doesn't mean you are a Top 5 nationally ranked team. DTS along with other Texas teams in this age group would need to at least win 1-2 National events over the course of a 24 month period to be in the top 5. Additionally, Not sure how Solar got ranked #3 in the region? Have they even played in any tourneys?
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Post by Medicine Man 17/01/18, 08:01 am

These numbers don't mean anything w guest players player pass and dual rosters. Outside of parent egos the kids just want to play and not be pine riders.

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Post by 06Southgirl 17/01/18, 08:12 am

Congrats to Sting Black 06 for a great performance and championship at Vegas Cup 2018. The team is having an excellent year! Your players have so much to be proud of!!!

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Post by SkeetsG06 17/01/18, 08:17 am

playerpass666 wrote:Skeets you are usually right on. I agree with you about SB being best of the best currently, but DTS South is not a #5 ranked team nationally.  Just because you win subpar events around the state doesn't mean you are a Top 5 nationally ranked team.  DTS along with other Texas teams in this age group would need to at least win 1-2 National events over the course of a 24 month period to be in the top 5.  Additionally, Not sure how Solar got ranked #3 in the region?  Have they even played in any tourneys?  

Fair points...have seen literally all of the top teams across the country, I believe DTS is elite and is w/o a doubt top 10 for sure. IMO, I believe they are Top 5. Legends, Hawaii, San Juan, Sd Surf, Anaheim Surf, & DTS are top 2-7 nationally and are interchangeable.

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Post by AtThePitch 17/01/18, 08:32 am

How about any east coast or Midwest squads?
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Post by TxFutbal 17/01/18, 08:39 am

I wasn't aware real soccer was played outside of Cali where I come from

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Post by SkeetsG06 17/01/18, 09:11 am

AtThePitch wrote:How about any east coast or Midwest squads?

In Midwest Chicago Fire is solid. Did well in Copa made finals. Was hammered this weekend and didn’t make it out of bracket.

In the East, NJ team, can’t remember name, but is top team in NE, was hammered by SB in Jefferson cup and embarrassed at Surf. Another NJ team, Called Bergen County, did not make it out of bracket in Vegas.

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Post by Guest101 17/01/18, 10:05 am

Nathanial Hörnblowér wrote:
Out of curiosity, which D2 teams beat top 5 D1 teams recently? I honestly don't know.

Your question made me curious too.  A list of teams since July with a good result playing teams from higher division:

STING DALLAS 06 GLOTZBACH JDL
FC Dallas Youth South 2-2 (D1)

FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL RED
FC Dallas Youth South 1-1 (D1)
FC Dallas Premier 0-3 (D1)
D'Feeters Kicks Perette 1-1 (D2)

FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G JDL BLUE
Texas Spirit Monk 1-3 (D1)

DALLAS TEXANS WEST 06G JDL
FC Dallas Youth West 2-8 (D1)
Dallas Texans Red West 1-2 (D3)

Sting West Rigsby 1-1 (D3)
Dallas TNT 0-4 (D3)
Liverpool Lidell 1-4 (D3)

FC Fusion 2-2 (D3)
*was not going to include this team but the data was relevant


FC DALLAS YOUTH 06G EAST
Triumph 1-1 (D2)
D'Feeters Black 1-1 (D2)
Solar Naizer 0-1 (D2)

D'FEETERS '06 COLON
D'Feeters Black 0-1 (D2)

DALLAS TEXANS 06 GIRLS DALLAS
Fever Finger 1-1 (D2)

SOLAR 06G BYARS
Fever Finger 2-2 (D2)

D'FEETERS 06G ANGELL 
D'Feeters Kicks Perette 2-3 (D2)
FC Dallas Youth Black 0-1 (D2)

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Post by Medicine Man 17/01/18, 10:14 am

What is consistent is the parents ego.

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