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JDL is coming to Oklahoma

Post by Foxysoccermom on 01/02/18, 02:39 pm

I heard you all are getting JDL, ECNL and DA can't be far behind.

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Post by ProDallas on 01/02/18, 03:38 pm

OkieEnergyDad wrote:Not sure how this turned into questions about my daughter’s coach. Lol. I was just looking to see if anyone knew when the DA might be announcing.

If you are really interested in my daughter’s coach, he’s been coaching at USAO both men’s and women’s for nearly 20 years. His bio is on the school site. His club girls go to small and big schools every year despite not being in ECNL or DA.

Yes, sorry, I shouldn't have gotten distracted by those schools, etc. I truly have nothing against small colleges or towns, I'm just surprised there are so many schools like these I never knew existed until I started paying attention to all the women's college programs out there. The great thing is that if your dd is talented enough to be on a DA team, then I am sure her skills will easily qualify her to play for a very reputable program if that's what she wants to do. Here's wishing your dd and friends all the best, and I hope the DA thing activates for your club. Geographically, it makes sense to me for OKC to be in the mix.
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Post by Bodhisattva on 01/02/18, 03:53 pm

OkieEnergyDad wrote:CCR love but no love for my Amarillo Highway lyrics?  Of course REK version is the best!

Sturgill Simpson & Jason Isbell's version has something to say about that...

REK's maroon side often shows too much for my taste.

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Post by Medicine Man on 22/02/18, 06:25 pm

Okie what's the word up in Indian land. Down here clubs are coming and going is the same up there? There's going to be a stampede down here real soon. It's time for me to head to the Rocky mountain high.

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Post by OkieEnergyDad on 22/02/18, 06:27 pm

I emailed the DA website and they told me they would announce in March. Still rumors up here. People in OKC say we got it, people in Tulsa say no way. Lol
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Post by TatonkaBurger on 23/02/18, 08:54 am

That will continue the oversaturation. I thought DA was supposed to be different. It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat. Same story, different year.
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Post by Big Ern on 23/02/18, 09:03 am

TatonkaBurger wrote:That will continue the oversaturation.  I thought DA was supposed to be different.  It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat.  Same story, different year.

Agreed that on the surface GDA looks similar to the ECNL, and that the DFW area is oversaturated ...

But why would adding a club in OKC be considered "oversaturation" ... it's as dry as a bone isn't it?

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 23/02/18, 09:23 am

Big Ern wrote:
TatonkaBurger wrote:That will continue the oversaturation.  I thought DA was supposed to be different.  It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat.  Same story, different year.

Agreed that on the surface GDA looks similar to the ECNL, and that the DFW area is oversaturated ...

But why would adding a club in OKC be considered "oversaturation" ... it's as dry as a bone isn't it?


why is DFW over-saturated? or why do you feel it is?

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Post by DeltaTauChi on 23/02/18, 09:26 am

AngelinaGoalee wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
TatonkaBurger wrote:That will continue the oversaturation.  I thought DA was supposed to be different.  It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat.  Same story, different year.

Agreed that on the surface GDA looks similar to the ECNL, and that the DFW area is oversaturated ...

But why would adding a club in OKC be considered "oversaturation" ... it's as dry as a bone isn't it?


why is DFW over-saturated? or why do you feel it is?


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Post by TatonkaBurger on 23/02/18, 09:27 am

Big Ern wrote:
TatonkaBurger wrote:That will continue the oversaturation.  I thought DA was supposed to be different.  It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat.  Same story, different year.

Agreed that on the surface GDA looks similar to the ECNL, and that the DFW area is oversaturated ...

But why would adding a club in OKC be considered "oversaturation" ... it's as dry as a bone isn't it?

It's definitely bone dry.  I just hope the drive to compete and beat the ECNL doesn't get in the way of the development goal and the formation of a truly "elite" league.  Not to offend our friends up north (although it will) but I do not know that the talent (player and coach) is there to make it a competitive member at each age group in the Frontier conference.  So that is why I say oversaturation.  It's probably not the right word because, you are right, that is perfect geography for growth.

And living in DFW, it is easy to say that the Okies should commute here to live out their soccer dreams.  But that is unfair.  So I guess you have talked me off the ledge a little but I am naturally a glass half empty guy so...
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Post by Zizou on 23/02/18, 09:51 am

TatonkaBurger wrote:That will continue the oversaturation.  I thought DA was supposed to be different.  It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat.  Same story, different year.

I feel adding a Liverpool would be considered over saturating the NTX market more so than adding a Oklahoma squad.

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Re: Announcing New Club Invites

Post by TatonkaBurger on 23/02/18, 10:01 am

Zizou wrote:
TatonkaBurger wrote:That will continue the oversaturation.  I thought DA was supposed to be different.  It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat.  Same story, different year.

I feel adding a Liverpool would be considered over saturating the NTX market more so than adding a Oklahoma squad.

Adding Liverpool to what?
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Post by Zizou on 23/02/18, 10:57 am

ECNL

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Post by TatonkaBurger on 23/02/18, 11:00 am

Zizou wrote:ECNL

It absolutely would... on its own. But doesn't that move contemplate an exit by one of the big 3 or is it an add just to add?
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Post by Zizou on 23/02/18, 11:09 am

Either way it waters down NTX soccer. My opinion, specifically waters down the ECNL product. Three GDA clubs two ECNL clubs could work, but by the skin of its teeth. Where is method man when you need him to call out it’s a numbers game. The more that play the more that pay. Or to remind us that we are all going to hell and NTX soccer is leading the way.

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Post by ForReal on 23/02/18, 11:18 am

TatonkaBurger wrote:
Zizou wrote:ECNL

It absolutely would... on its own.  But doesn't that move contemplate an exit by one of the big 3 or is it an add just to add?

Highly doubt they get added if 2 or 3 of the Big 3 don't leave ECNL.  Still not sure they should be added even if that occurs.  Perhaps adding ECNL would boost their rosters, but I don't see them having enough depth outside of a couple of age brackets to really contend (and that assumes some of those teams don't get picked apart for DA rosters next year).  That said, only 2 NTX clubs in ECNL isn't a great situation.  

Unless the Big 3 are forced out, they should keep their No. 2 teams at ECNL.

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Post by NoSpinZone on 23/02/18, 11:29 am

ForReal wrote:
TatonkaBurger wrote:
Zizou wrote:ECNL

It absolutely would... on its own.  But doesn't that move contemplate an exit by one of the big 3 or is it an add just to add?

Highly doubt they get added if 2 or 3 of the Big 3 don't leave ECNL.  Still not sure they should be added even if that occurs.  Perhaps adding ECNL would boost their rosters, but I don't see them having enough depth outside of a couple of age brackets to really contend (and that assumes some of those teams don't get picked apart for DA rosters next year).  That said, only 2 NTX clubs in ECNL isn't a great situation.  

Unless the Big 3 are forced out, they should keep their No. 2 teams at ECNL.

3 DA, 2 ECNL works, or 2 DA and 3 ECNL(depending on Texans). Any more is too many.

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Post by DeltaTauChi on 23/02/18, 11:30 am

ForReal wrote:
TatonkaBurger wrote:
Zizou wrote:ECNL

It absolutely would... on its own.  But doesn't that move contemplate an exit by one of the big 3 or is it an add just to add?

Highly doubt they get added if 2 or 3 of the Big 3 don't leave ECNL.  Still not sure they should be added even if that occurs.  Perhaps adding ECNL would boost their rosters, but I don't see them having enough depth outside of a couple of age brackets to really contend (and that assumes some of those teams don't get picked apart for DA rosters next year).  That said, only 2 NTX clubs in ECNL isn't a great situation.  

Unless the Big 3 are forced out, they should keep their No. 2 teams at ECNL.

How so? 3 DA + 2 ECNL in each age group = ~100 kids. Do you really think we have > 100 kids in each age group in DFW that are Power 5 D1 caliber and need to be traveling nationally 2x-3x per year for competition and showcases?


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Post by Zizou on 23/02/18, 11:47 am

Don’t LH teams already travel to showcases? Adding a third might be a stretch, but two showcases seems ideal.


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Post by ForReal on 23/02/18, 11:48 am

DeltaTauChi wrote:
ForReal wrote:
TatonkaBurger wrote:
Zizou wrote:ECNL

It absolutely would... on its own.  But doesn't that move contemplate an exit by one of the big 3 or is it an add just to add?

Highly doubt they get added if 2 or 3 of the Big 3 don't leave ECNL.  Still not sure they should be added even if that occurs.  Perhaps adding ECNL would boost their rosters, but I don't see them having enough depth outside of a couple of age brackets to really contend (and that assumes some of those teams don't get picked apart for DA rosters next year).  That said, only 2 NTX clubs in ECNL isn't a great situation.  

Unless the Big 3 are forced out, they should keep their No. 2 teams at ECNL.

How so?  3 DA + 2 ECNL in each age group = ~100 kids.  Do you really think we have > 100 kids in each age group in DFW that are Power 5 D1 caliber and need to be traveling nationally 2x-3x per year for competition and showcases?


How so, what?  You mean my statement that "unless the Big 3 are forced out, they should keep their No. 2 teams at ECNL"?  What's the alternative?  Won't players on the Big 3 ECNL teams instead go play in some "shadow" DA league with similar travel?  If the "shadow" league isn't similar travel, where are those teams playing?  Or are the Big 3 going to find 60 spots on their TCL and LH's rosters and move players from TCL to LH and players from LH to a lower level LH team?  Seems like a quagmire to me.  And, even if it waters down ECNL even more so, more than 2 NTX teams in ECNL will minimize travel for the NTX ECNL teams.  That, or the ECNL teams just play less league games.

As to your question about D1 caliber, I doubt there's that much talent.  But you know what there's even less of?  National team talent.  That's why I also suggested at the inception of DA that only 1, and perhaps 2, NTX clubs should be awarded DA. If that had happened, it wouldn't be having this type of impact (or if the Big 3 didn't go one year in both).

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Post by Zizou on 23/02/18, 11:51 am

So how does Liverpool not get the girls ECNL bid? They have the boys bid. It seems ECNL could weaken its ranks through the addition of another NTX club.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 23/02/18, 12:01 pm

All this talk of dilution... easy fix....

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Post by Big Ern on 23/02/18, 12:21 pm

AngelinaGoalee wrote:
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TatonkaBurger wrote:That will continue the oversaturation.  I thought DA was supposed to be different.  It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat.  Same story, different year.

Agreed that on the surface GDA looks similar to the ECNL, and that the DFW area is oversaturated ...

But why would adding a club in OKC be considered "oversaturation" ... it's as dry as a bone isn't it?


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Fantastic conversation Gentlemen!  

This has been bantered about before, and I think it goes without saying (as was mentioned here by NoSpin and FoReal) --

3 GDA clubs is too many especially given they all offer the ECNL as well + there are two other very reputable ECNL exclusive clubs in DFW ...

Oversaturation.

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Post by Hang1053 on 23/02/18, 12:40 pm

I just went to the Liverpool website and saw this article dated 2 days ago.
http://www.liverpoolfcamerica-ntx.com/news_article/show/889332?referrer_id=316677

Looks like they may be gearing up for it.



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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 23/02/18, 12:43 pm

Big Ern wrote:
AngelinaGoalee wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
TatonkaBurger wrote:That will continue the oversaturation.  I thought DA was supposed to be different.  It's turning out to be an ECNL copycat.  Same story, different year.

Agreed that on the surface GDA looks similar to the ECNL, and that the DFW area is oversaturated ...

But why would adding a club in OKC be considered "oversaturation" ... it's as dry as a bone isn't it?


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Fantastic conversation Gentlemen!  

This has been bantered about before, and I think it goes without saying (as was mentioned here by NoSpin and FoReal) --

3 GDA clubs is too many especially given they all offer the ECNL as well + there are two other very reputable ECNL exclusive clubs in DFW ...

Oversaturation.

I though we had enough talent to go around.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 23/02/18, 12:45 pm

Hang1053 wrote:I just went to the Liverpool website and saw this article dated 2 days ago.
http://www.liverpoolfcamerica-ntx.com/news_article/show/889332?referrer_id=316677

Looks like they may be gearing up for it.



Should have made that move before AF's LP Elite teams talent made their way to the Bigs. Guess they didnt really have a say so in the matter prior to now right.

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