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Post by OkieEnergyDad on 08/02/18, 01:21 pm

I looked around.  The ECNL website is incorrect.  Katie is class of 2019.  She has verbally committed to Texas A&M but she did not sign yesterday.

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Post by OkieEnergyDad on 08/02/18, 01:26 pm

Juliet Moncho also graduates from Casady as the class of 2019...This list does not seem accurate...
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Post by SoccerDad75070 on 08/02/18, 01:42 pm

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LJCR9n5AMpOoP1ZEbOQsKHE5F8idhmQvlV6aKNCGuV0/edit#gid=0

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Post by TulsaFootballDad on 08/02/18, 01:43 pm

Thnks for the info surprised they included it in the class of 2018 on the ECNL site.
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Post by OkieEnergyDad on 08/02/18, 02:20 pm

Sounds like ECNL is cooking the books, trying to make their numbers better than they really are Wink

So this time next year, TSC will sign girls to Dartmouth and A&M again...lol
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Post by President Camacho on 08/02/18, 02:53 pm

serious congrats to all that signed and those still making their decision.
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Post by Medicine Man on 08/02/18, 03:37 pm

It's all fuzzy Okie just par for the course. Deception to fluff the marketing.

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Post by TulsaFootballDad on 08/02/18, 03:46 pm

Is there somwhere they have the GDA numbers on college signings from this initial year?
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Post by OkieEnergyDad on 08/02/18, 05:46 pm

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20180208-news-academy-players-sign-off-on-college-commitments-for-fall-2018
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Post by TulsaFootballDad on 08/02/18, 05:55 pm

Thanks Energy
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Post by OkieEnergyDad on 08/02/18, 09:12 pm

When I looked at the ECNL signing day list for Texas A&M signees only 1 of the 3 listed is correct. Looks like someone is trying to inflate their numbers. Wonder how many other programs they did this to...
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Post by 918soccer on 09/02/18, 12:05 am

Comparing the DA and ECNL signing day numbers, anyone else surprised how many more ECNL girls signed? DA reported signing 1056 boys and girls and ECNL reported signing 1157 girls. That's a pretty big difference.

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Post by 918soccer on 09/02/18, 12:29 am

Okie - Looks like TSC accidentally listed Katie Smith as a signee instead of Katie Gasaway. I'm sure it was just a reporting error but Katie Gasaway did sign yesterday. Here is a list of current TSC signees.

https://www.jotformpro.com/table/80375237682058

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Post by KeeperCommander on 09/02/18, 07:13 am

I am shocked Sting Austin signed more that Sting Dallas.

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Post by Guest on 09/02/18, 10:08 am

918soccer wrote:Comparing the DA and ECNL signing day numbers, anyone else surprised how many more ECNL girls signed? DA reported signing 1056 boys and girls and ECNL reported signing 1157 girls. That's a pretty big difference.

Not really suprising. This is the inaugural season for DA on the girls side. I would guess that most of your older girls who already had offers, stayed ECNL. It doesn't make sense to go DA for them. The younger age groups is where you will see the trend shift. I would look at and follow the 03's as the litmus test.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 09/02/18, 11:27 am

Cleansheets wrote:
918soccer wrote:Comparing the DA and ECNL signing day numbers, anyone else surprised how many more ECNL girls signed? DA reported signing 1056 boys and girls and ECNL reported signing 1157 girls. That's a pretty big difference.

Not really suprising. This is the inaugural season for DA on the girls side. I would guess that most of your older girls who already had offers, stayed ECNL. It doesn't make sense to go DA for them. The younger age groups is where you will see the trend shift. I would look at and follow the 03's as the litmus test.

Right!!

Give it a few years.....

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Post by KeeperCommander on 09/02/18, 11:34 am

AngelinaGoalee wrote:
Cleansheets wrote:
918soccer wrote:Comparing the DA and ECNL signing day numbers, anyone else surprised how many more ECNL girls signed? DA reported signing 1056 boys and girls and ECNL reported signing 1157 girls. That's a pretty big difference.

Not really suprising. This is the inaugural season for DA on the girls side. I would guess that most of your older girls who already had offers, stayed ECNL. It doesn't make sense to go DA for them. The younger age groups is where you will see the trend shift. I would look at and follow the 03's as the litmus test.

Right!!

Give it a few years.....
Would agree that it will take a bit of time for the girls to even out. 03’s might be the perfect year or even the 02’s for it to happen. However why is the boys number low? They had plenty of years.

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Post by Zizou on 09/02/18, 11:47 am

KeeperCommander wrote:
AngelinaGoalee wrote:
Cleansheets wrote:
918soccer wrote:Comparing the DA and ECNL signing day numbers, anyone else surprised how many more ECNL girls signed? DA reported signing 1056 boys and girls and ECNL reported signing 1157 girls. That's a pretty big difference.

Not really suprising. This is the inaugural season for DA on the girls side. I would guess that most of your older girls who already had offers, stayed ECNL. It doesn't make sense to go DA for them. The younger age groups is where you will see the trend shift. I would look at and follow the 03's as the litmus test.

Right!!

Give it a few years.....
Would agree that it will take a bit of time for the girls to even out. 03’s might be the perfect year or even the 02’s for it to happen. However why is the boys number low? They had plenty of years.

The boys have more options that committing to a college. Some might have taken a pro contract.

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Post by 918soccer on 09/02/18, 02:29 pm

Any word on Boys ECNL signing numbers?

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 09/02/18, 02:30 pm

i chuckled....forreal forreal

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Post by 918soccer on 09/02/18, 02:50 pm

KeeperCommander wrote:
AngelinaGoalee wrote:
Cleansheets wrote:
918soccer wrote:Comparing the DA and ECNL signing day numbers, anyone else surprised how many more ECNL girls signed? DA reported signing 1056 boys and girls and ECNL reported signing 1157 girls. That's a pretty big difference.

Not really suprising. This is the inaugural season for DA on the girls side. I would guess that most of your older girls who already had offers, stayed ECNL. It doesn't make sense to go DA for them. The younger age groups is where you will see the trend shift. I would look at and follow the 03's as the litmus test.

Right!!

Give it a few years.....
Would agree that it will take a bit of time for the girls to even out. 03’s might be the perfect year or even the 02’s for it to happen. However why is the boys number low? They had plenty of years.


I agree KC and I was anticipating ECNL to have higher numbers this year, but I didn't expect them to sign twice as many girls or for Sting Austin to sign more players than DA teams their first year in ECNL. That throws me for a loop and really makes me question the college recruiting differences between both programs.


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Post by SkeetsG06 on 09/02/18, 03:52 pm

Congrats to all of the dds who will play at the next level and to their parents for all of the support to make the next level possible!  Awesome accomplishment!!

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Post by lulu22 on 11/02/18, 06:46 am

SoccerDad75070 wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LJCR9n5AMpOoP1ZEbOQsKHE5F8idhmQvlV6aKNCGuV0/edit#gid=0

Wow.  PDA has some smart girls.   That is an impressive list of colleges that the PDA girls are attending.

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Post by Gunners on 11/02/18, 01:13 pm

a) Fewer places for boys to play college soccer hence fewer commitments. See: Title IX

b) There are commits on that list who are not committed to play soccer where listed, but rather just attending college at the listed university. My guess is clubs are purposely overstating commits, but who knows.

c) PDA is arguably the best club in the country  and pulls from some of the most affluent areas in the country. Do the math.

d) Congrats to the commits. You parents enjoy it! It goes by fast! Crying or Very sad

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Post by HomeStretch on 11/02/18, 01:34 pm

Gunners wrote:

b) There are commits on that list who are not committed to play soccer where listed, but rather just attending college at the listed university. My guess is clubs are purposely overstating commits, but who knows.

I did some analysis on this where I cross checked fall rosters with supposed "commits" listed publicly on Google doc sheet and other public sources. The delta was substantial for the class I checked. Either a ton of girls change their minds before freshman year or this overstating of athletic commits has been going on for quite a while.

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Post by OkieEnergyDad on 11/02/18, 03:08 pm

HomeStretch wrote:
Gunners wrote:

b) There are commits on that list who are not committed to play soccer where listed, but rather just attending college at the listed university. My guess is clubs are purposely overstating commits, but who knows.

I did some analysis on this where I cross checked fall rosters with supposed "commits" listed publicly on Google doc sheet and other public sources. The delta was substantial for the class I checked. Either a ton of girls change their minds before freshman year or this overstating of athletic commits has been going on for quite a while.


So the data you analyzed was girls ECNL since this was the first season of girls DA correct?
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