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Post by 06Southgirl on 02/04/18, 01:57 pm

AtThePitch wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Pele that would be even more interesting to see at this Tourney.  Put a cone, field player with a bib or no gloves against some of these top teams in DIGC.  You will be sent home 0-3 and 20 GA. At this age and older  if you do not have a good Keeper then you will not have a good record.  However a good keeper is no substitute for a good def.


So I heard it actually happened.

A team, I believe someone said DTS, put a field player on goal with bib and no gloves, when their goalie was sick, and actually WON two games, one of them being a semi-final game.

KC, I can now claim that I own you.......................if what I heard is true.

The player you speak of spent years playing goalie and in the field.. So not exactly a field player with zero experience...

Great kid and family I should add.

Confused ......this player plays backup goalie with no goalie training. Years in goal?  I don’t think so.   She is a field player who every coach she has had reaches out to her as a backup because she is an all around athlete. But she doesn’t show up at a tryout for goal. No goalie jersey/kit.

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Post by AtThePitch on 02/04/18, 02:21 pm

06southgirl wrote:
AtThePitch wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Pele that would be even more interesting to see at this Tourney.  Put a cone, field player with a bib or no gloves against some of these top teams in DIGC.  You will be sent home 0-3 and 20 GA. At this age and older  if you do not have a good Keeper then you will not have a good record.  However a good keeper is no substitute for a good def.


So I heard it actually happened.

A team, I believe someone said DTS, put a field player on goal with bib and no gloves, when their goalie was sick, and actually WON two games, one of them being a semi-final game.

KC, I can now claim that I own you.......................if what I heard is true.

The player you speak of spent years playing goalie and in the field.. So not exactly a field player with zero experience...

Great kid and family I should add.

Confused ......this player plays backup goalie with no goalie training. Years in goal?  I don’t think so.   She is a field player who every coach she has had reaches out to her as a backup because she is an all around athlete. But she doesn’t show up at a tryout for goal.  No goalie jersey/kit.

I said playing goalie and in the field... I did manage a team she played on previously... She is a phenomenal athlete and will do whatever is asked of her.

Make it a negative if you want. Not how I meant it.

And great job to her on the saves this past weekend. I was stuck at IBER and couldn't make it to watch.
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Post by 06Southgirl on 02/04/18, 02:25 pm

AtThePitch wrote:
06southgirl wrote:
AtThePitch wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Pele that would be even more interesting to see at this Tourney.  Put a cone, field player with a bib or no gloves against some of these top teams in DIGC.  You will be sent home 0-3 and 20 GA. At this age and older  if you do not have a good Keeper then you will not have a good record.  However a good keeper is no substitute for a good def.


So I heard it actually happened.

A team, I believe someone said DTS, put a field player on goal with bib and no gloves, when their goalie was sick, and actually WON two games, one of them being a semi-final game.

KC, I can now claim that I own you.......................if what I heard is true.

The player you speak of spent years playing goalie and in the field.. So not exactly a field player with zero experience...

Great kid and family I should add.

Confused ......this player plays backup goalie with no goalie training. Years in goal?  I don’t think so.   She is a field player who every coach she has had reaches out to her as a backup because she is an all around athlete. But she doesn’t show up at a tryout for goal.  No goalie jersey/kit.

I said playing goalie and in the field... I did manage a team she played on previously... She is a phenomenal athlete and will do whatever is asked of her.

Make it a negative if you want. Not how I meant it.

And great job to her on the saves this past weekend. I was stuck at IBER and couldn't make it to watch.

No negativity......I just read it as she played in goal for years.  Maybe I read it wrong.   You are correct she is a great kid!
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Post by Pele98 on 02/04/18, 03:21 pm

AtThePitch wrote:
06southgirl wrote:
AtThePitch wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Pele that would be even more interesting to see at this Tourney.  Put a cone, field player with a bib or no gloves against some of these top teams in DIGC.  You will be sent home 0-3 and 20 GA. At this age and older  if you do not have a good Keeper then you will not have a good record.  However a good keeper is no substitute for a good def.


So I heard it actually happened.

A team, I believe someone said DTS, put a field player on goal with bib and no gloves, when their goalie was sick, and actually WON two games, one of them being a semi-final game.

KC, I can now claim that I own you.......................if what I heard is true.

The player you speak of spent years playing goalie and in the field.. So not exactly a field player with zero experience...

Great kid and family I should add.

Confused ......this player plays backup goalie with no goalie training. Years in goal?  I don’t think so.   She is a field player who every coach she has had reaches out to her as a backup because she is an all around athlete. But she doesn’t show up at a tryout for goal.  No goalie jersey/kit.

I said playing goalie and in the field... I did manage a team she played on previously... She is a phenomenal athlete and will do whatever is asked of her.

Make it a negative if you want. Not how I meant it.

And great job to her on the saves this past weekend. I was stuck at IBER and couldn't make it to watch.



@KC, now that ATP has backtracked, albeit a bit, and the 06SouthGirl has provided more ammunition on my initial assertion that she is a field player just thrown in to play goalie, I think I have the right to go back and claim.......... I own YOU.

For a good measure, I think I own the OK Energy FC dad too............ cheers
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Post by KeeperCommander on 02/04/18, 04:04 pm

Pele98 wrote:
AtThePitch wrote:
06southgirl wrote:
AtThePitch wrote:
Pele98 wrote:
KeeperCommander wrote:Pele that would be even more interesting to see at this Tourney.  Put a cone, field player with a bib or no gloves against some of these top teams in DIGC.  You will be sent home 0-3 and 20 GA. At this age and older  if you do not have a good Keeper then you will not have a good record.  However a good keeper is no substitute for a good def.


So I heard it actually happened.

A team, I believe someone said DTS, put a field player on goal with bib and no gloves, when their goalie was sick, and actually WON two games, one of them being a semi-final game.

KC, I can now claim that I own you.......................if what I heard is true.

The player you speak of spent years playing goalie and in the field.. So not exactly a field player with zero experience...

Great kid and family I should add.

Confused ......this player plays backup goalie with no goalie training. Years in goal?  I don’t think so.   She is a field player who every coach she has had reaches out to her as a backup because she is an all around athlete. But she doesn’t show up at a tryout for goal.  No goalie jersey/kit.

I said playing goalie and in the field... I did manage a team she played on previously... She is a phenomenal athlete and will do whatever is asked of her.

Make it a negative if you want. Not how I meant it.

And great job to her on the saves this past weekend. I was stuck at IBER and couldn't make it to watch.



@KC, now that ATP has backtracked, albeit a bit, and the 06SouthGirl has provided more ammunition on my initial assertion that she is a field player just thrown in to play goalie, I think I have the right to go back and claim.......... I own YOU.

For a good measure, I think I own the OK Energy FC dad too............ cheers
I will just let you be wrong for a little while longer. Seems you revel in it. Fits you nicely actually.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 02/04/18, 09:05 pm

Pele there is a huge difference in a field player that you just “put in goal” with a bib and one that has played in goal numerous times over the past several years for different teams. When I say numerous I mean a large amount of minutes. She has warmed up as a keeper before and sometimes only sees the field as a keeper, but yes I would classify this particular DD as a field player that is very athletic. Huge difference between that and an orange cone don’t you think? Now let’s turn our attention to the last sentence of my couple week old quote in this thread. “A good keeper is no substitute for a good defense.” A great keeper behind a subpar defense might get you a few more saves per contest but it will not save you in the long run.
No one has backtracked or changed any tune to what was said. That’s absurd.

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Post by Big Ern on 02/04/18, 09:49 pm

PLAY2FEET!! wrote:Unless as someone pointed out earlier... DTS players decide to go DA route. If so, does Coach A go with them? I'm not sure this team performs the same w/o him. He seems to get the most out of them.

Great team no doubt, but have the majority of them ever played competitively for anyone else?  I've seen first hand coaches get more out of some of his players when they left than they showed while on his teams.  

And the last I heard, his highest USSF license was D.  Unless he's earned his C, and then his B in the past year or so, he still isn't eligible to coach in USSDA.  I think the better question would be if the A Bros are even with Texans next year ...

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Post by KeeperCommander on 02/04/18, 09:52 pm

Didn’t I hear he took over the DA team this year or was at least training them? Or was that forum fodder?

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Post by 05girls on 02/04/18, 09:59 pm

Isn’t that true of most/all kids at this age? Hearing the same message from the same coach Year after year gets stale. As long as the coach you go to is worth a damn, it should be nothing but positive regardless of where you came from.

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Post by 05girls on 02/04/18, 10:05 pm

Isn’t that true of most/all kids at this age? Hearing the same message from the same coach Year after year gets stale. As long as the coach you go to is worth a damn, it should be nothing but positive regardless of where you came from.

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Post by 5050Ball on 02/04/18, 10:05 pm

DT South was awarded a U12 Boys DA spot last month. Sal was listed as Director of Coaching in the announcement. Wouldn't that require the proper license?
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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 02/04/18, 10:23 pm

Not in the land of Texans.
Expect the unexpected....

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Post by SoccerDad75070 on 03/04/18, 01:52 pm

Caught several of these games over the weekend.

The gaps between levels or leagues is not as great as people like to think.

Deciding games with Penalty Kicks is rediculous in every way. Pointless, no matter if its U7 on a Saturday or a FIFA World Cup.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 03/04/18, 01:56 pm

SoccerDad75070 wrote:Caught several of these games over the weekend.

The gaps between levels or leagues is not as great as people like to think.

Deciding games with Penalty Kicks is rediculous in every way. Pointless, no matter if its U7 on a Saturday or a FIFA World Cup.
Agree except time can cause big problems. I do not want to win or lose through penalties however I would also not like to arrive for a game and discover backup at the fields due to overtime. Double edge sword if you ask me.

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Post by Big Ern on 03/04/18, 02:08 pm

SoccerDad75070 wrote:Caught several of these games over the weekend.

The gaps between levels or leagues is not as great as people like to think.

Deciding games with Penalty Kicks is rediculous in every way. Pointless, no matter if its U7 on a Saturday or a FIFA World Cup.

Any chance that the reason so many of the playoff matches went to pens was due to the kids playing only half a game ?

Things that make you go hmmm ...

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 03/04/18, 02:28 pm

Big Ern wrote:
SoccerDad75070 wrote:Caught several of these games over the weekend.

The gaps between levels or leagues is not as great as people like to think.

Deciding games with Penalty Kicks is rediculous in every way. Pointless, no matter if its U7 on a Saturday or a FIFA World Cup.

Any chance that the reason so many of the playoff matches went to pens was due to the kids playing only half a game ?

Things that make you go hmmm ...

I thought they went to pens on the full games...
No matter!! We just need a full tournament do over before open practice begins.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 03/04/18, 02:35 pm

AngelinaGoalee wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
SoccerDad75070 wrote:Caught several of these games over the weekend.

The gaps between levels or leagues is not as great as people like to think.

Deciding games with Penalty Kicks is rediculous in every way. Pointless, no matter if its U7 on a Saturday or a FIFA World Cup.

Any chance that the reason so many of the playoff matches went to pens was due to the kids playing only half a game ?

Things that make you go hmmm ...

I thought they went to pens on the full games...
No matter!! We just need a full tournament do over before open practice begins.
Quarters, Semis and Finals were not full time games but were shortened 5-10 mins from what the DIGC full time games were supposed to be.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 03/04/18, 02:40 pm

well....i guess that leaves some with no closure and the next chance to see some good ECNLvsDA match-ups may not come again until a year from now. Sucks don't it?! The usual suspects won though in all age groups, guess a full game would just be a bit more interesting.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 03/04/18, 02:49 pm

Tough tournaments are about who plays the best under the circumstances. Shortened games, weather, long drives to get to dry fields plus tough teams were all part of the circumstances. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Coach on 03/04/18, 03:20 pm

Pens?
Rolling Eyes

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Post by Bodhisattva on 03/04/18, 03:26 pm

Coach wrote:Pens?
Rolling Eyes

Penalty Kicks

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Post by KeeperCommander on 03/04/18, 03:27 pm

Bodhisattva wrote:
Coach wrote:Pens?
Rolling Eyes

Penalty Kicks
NHL team in Pittsburgh

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Post by Big Ern on 03/04/18, 03:34 pm

Yep KC ... they sure are.  And the sky is blue, grass is green ... etc.

Just happens to be my contention that a full time match would've made things less interesting.  I'm sure many of you will disagree just because, but I believe that shorter matches are actually detrimental to the stronger teams.  For any match you saw that went to pens, the most likely result would've been a 1 goal win by the stronger team.  Any result you saw that was 1-0, would've more likely been a 2 or 3-0 final.

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Post by Coach on 03/04/18, 03:46 pm

Bodhisattva wrote:
Coach wrote:Pens?
Rolling Eyes

Penalty Kicks

I know what he meant.
Just more of an eye roll at the ridiculousness of making up words.
PKs wouldn't work?

If we could just use established words and acronyms.... that'd be great.

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Post by Big Ern on 03/04/18, 03:56 pm

Coach wrote:
Bodhisattva wrote:
Coach wrote:Pens?
Rolling Eyes

Penalty Kicks

I know what he meant.
Just more of an eye roll at the ridiculousness of making up words.
PKs wouldn't work?

If we could just use established words and acronyms.... that'd be great.

Ummm ... ???  Coach?

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Post by KeeperCommander on 03/04/18, 04:08 pm

This forum might be the only place someone would say Good Morning and then argue 6 hours about why it isn’t.

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