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Post by Multivitamin on 05/04/18, 03:53 pm

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/0 ... initiative




US Soccer - You picked the worst place and frankly one of the most corrupt soccer environments in America to do this. I have seen a team of overweight hispanic kids beat a team of NFL players kids ( the answer because the hispanics kids touch was one touch and phenomenal and had the athletic kids running circles)

Your stepping into an environment in Texas where it has always been Brute Dribble , Super Speed, and Athleticism - They literally line up the kids and pick the fastest ones and automatically put them on the top team just for that.

US Soccer you picked the wrong place to do this and what would of been better is getting all of your USSF invites and merging them together for a special league play. But asking already corrupt clubs to make the teams and put them in front of you is not smart. These clubs are about money first child development second.

Very Poor decision - And this could of been done by special invite by using reports from your scouts but choosing to have clubs to put together teams is not going to give you accurate statistics when little johnny was put there because daddy has big wallets.

Your scientific evaluation is going to be flawed and skewed. At least its not a waste of Taxpayers money! If my kid was chosen for this experiment I would turn it down. The clubs will turn this into a tryout and recruiting event " WATCH "

another person says this below

They want it to work for retention purposes - Could you imagine if Lonestar could figure out that mixing the abilities of the players and never having a top team could actually replicate their U12 30 teams and have U18/U19 30 teams still playing the sport!

That's what they want to do to make the sport more $$$ and easier to identify talent that was overlooked because kids grow at different ages depending on genetics. Many top players Lonestar has lost being cut off and written off at a young age and those players ended up traveling or playing elsewhere and becoming top level talent.

Lonestar will follow this lead if it makes them $$$$ but it wont so much be about the wins anymore!
Lonestar it falls in your court? More money for retention of players versus loosing placement of teams - what matters most to parents, culture of your environement and your players???


LMAO that's the new league they are going to form the BIO-BANDED League RFLMAO!!!
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Post by KeeperCommander on 06/04/18, 08:02 am

We could BioBand USSoccer but 3rd grade is full. Ridiculous

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Post by KeeperCommander on 06/04/18, 08:05 am

US soccer attention span is that of a 4 year old. Pick something and stick to it.

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Post by ProDallas on 06/04/18, 09:04 am

I scanned through the official press release and the whole thing seems far-fetched. They say using the Khamis-Roche algorithm will "provide a variety of information on each player, including if they are early, on-time or late maturing, Peak Height Velocity (PHV) timing and also predicting the end height they will reach at adulthood." I'm not against the concept of giving late bloomers more developmental opportunities, but am very skeptical of the "scientific" approach they are basing it all on. If they expand this approach, US Soccer needs to be very thorough in how they prove this approach is scientifically and empirically valid.
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Post by Multivitamin on 06/04/18, 10:51 am

Its just pathetic that US soccer cant figure out as long as a kid has a strong technical background and with strong tactical awareness this can have any kid play the game the way its supposed to be played. In the end size wont matter and not necessarily speed. Its movement and touch.

One person doing this that keeps being addressed in Europe and in Latin America is a guy by the name of David Dinh he runs www.forzavip.com out of Austin Texas and has been giving top players to all teams in South Central Texas for over 20 years now.
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Post by KeeperCommander on 06/04/18, 10:56 am

ProDallas wrote:I scanned through the official press release and the whole thing seems far-fetched. They say using the Khamis-Roche algorithm will "provide a variety of information on each player, including if they are early, on-time or late maturing, Peak Height Velocity (PHV) timing and also predicting the end height they will reach at adulthood." I'm not against the concept of giving late bloomers more developmental opportunities, but am very skeptical of the "scientific" approach they are basing it all on. If they expand this approach, US Soccer needs to be very thorough in how they prove this approach is scientifically and empirically valid.
They used science to determine cholesterol in eggs was bad. Oh wait they were wrong.  But they used science, hmmm....

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Post by Medicine Man on 06/04/18, 01:42 pm

Sounds like a case of jock itch to me w proper medication.

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Post by .... on 06/04/18, 02:44 pm

Pretty sure i will get KILLED by the soccer-know-it-all's. However; i think this could be a pretty cool proof of concept. It seems like a opportunity to use data and a scientific approach to develop the more mature players, and still have an opportunity to not miss out on identifying the next potentially great player who has not physically matured at the rate others have. At the end of the day it cant hurt. Will people use it to influence, manipulate, and monetize? The simple answer is yes, but there potentially could also be some good that comes out of it. Maybe a player that would normally in the American style of play quit playing soccer, will stick with it and become a homegrown once in a generation player. I'm looking forward to seeing the results (good or bad) from this initiative.

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Post by KeeperCommander on 06/04/18, 02:59 pm

Why would you be looking forward to seeing bad results from this initiative?

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Post by .... on 06/04/18, 03:03 pm

My hope would be that the results are positive. However if they are negative(bad) then hopefully some key learnings come out of it, that can be used to improve the game even more for the next generations.

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Post by soccerjack on 06/04/18, 03:12 pm

No one is going to kill you for expressing your opinion...even though it's misguided and wrong. Very Happy   I'm sure the people that brought us age pure are on to something here. Taking away the joy of a game for millions of kids and tagging them all like trophy animals makes perfect sense. It's very difficult when you have the largest pool of talent in the world to compete with a country like Japan. Hard work, good coaching and the love of playing the game is so passé. If parents would just pay the money to fund these ground breaking ideas, then one day we might be able to compete with the Japanese and other countries a fraction of our size. I think we are all starting to see the hard earned results from age pure, so keep the faith and lets band those kids.
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Post by KeeperCommander on 06/04/18, 03:26 pm

Ok everyone if you are in the 5th grade you will be playing over here. Ok! Ok! Ok! I got it. If you are born in 2007 you will be playing over here.
Well hmmm, maybe uhhh how about if you are really good by objective meaning (insert subjective opinion here) you will be playing over here.
So.... here we go let’s just do this. If you are really big for your age sit in these seats and we will talk.
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Post by Medicine Man on 06/04/18, 08:43 pm

Some anti bacterial medication works best for jock itch.

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Post by coachdom23 on 07/04/18, 06:46 pm

NTSSA association presidents still won’t vote to allow u10’s to play u11 competitive.
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Post by turftoe9 on 07/04/18, 11:57 pm

coachdom23 wrote:NTSSA association presidents still won’t vote to allow u10’s to play u11 competitive.

Yes but my U15 could be playing with the U 13 girls because of her size. Which wouldn't help her at all.




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Post by soccerjack on 08/04/18, 11:03 am

turftoe9 wrote:
coachdom23 wrote:NTSSA association presidents still won’t vote to allow u10’s to play u11 competitive.

Yes but my U15 could be playing with the U 13 girls because of her size. Which wouldn't help her at all.





If they would have known she would be short they could've written her off long ago. Maybe had her wear a tag on her jersey at least.
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Post by President Camacho on 12/04/18, 01:16 pm

Does this mean that Messi (because of size) would have played against 5 year olds when he was 10? Didn't him fighting through bigger stronger players help him become who he is?

I can see this possibly working at the academy level so the u-littles don't get steam rolled by the bigger kids?

In LH, can you imagine the protests because some DD is too old but not according to bio banding, then from July 1 to December the kid shoots up and matures and now dominating in the second half of the season.

Utopian concept, but application seems like a challenge.
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Post by KeeperCommander on 12/04/18, 02:37 pm

President Camacho wrote:Does this mean that Messi (because of size) would have played against 5 year olds when he was 10? Didn't him fighting through bigger stronger players help him become who he is?

I can see this possibly working at the academy level so the u-littles don't get steam rolled by the bigger kids?

In LH, can you imagine the protests because some DD is too old but not according to bio banding, then from July 1 to December the kid shoots up and matures and now dominating in the second half of the season.

Utopian concept, but application seems like a challenge.
Can you imagine the CPP on a subjective thing such as this.

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Post by President Camacho on 12/04/18, 03:24 pm

KeeperCommander wrote:
President Camacho wrote:Does this mean that Messi (because of size) would have played against 5 year olds when he was 10? Didn't him fighting through bigger stronger players help him become who he is?

I can see this possibly working at the academy level so the u-littles don't get steam rolled by the bigger kids?

In LH, can you imagine the protests because some DD is too old but not according to bio banding, then from July 1 to December the kid shoots up and matures and now dominating in the second half of the season.

Utopian concept, but application seems like a challenge.
Can you imagine the CPP on a subjective thing such as this.
The forum gold if this comes to pass will be awesome.
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Post by newbiefornow on 13/04/18, 09:54 pm

NTX Soccer at the DA Spring Showcase 2018. It's a good game especially for the age Group. All of the NTX teams did well. This was just one they featured.

https://youtu.be/_OL2zsb7EQ4

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Post by Medicine Man on 17/04/18, 02:09 pm

Did the anti bacterial cream work?

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Post by President Camacho on 17/04/18, 02:16 pm

Medicine Man wrote:Did the anti bacterial cream work?
Another pointless post by the biggest idiot on the board.
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Post by Medicine Man on 17/04/18, 04:15 pm

I guess you didn't take my advice macho comacho.

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