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Post by PowerKick on 19/04/18, 01:48 pm


http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/division-i-council-adopts-recruiting-legislation

For student-athletes in sports other than football and basketball, official visits now can begin Sept. 1 of a prospect’s junior year in high school instead of the first day of classes for senior year.


Additionally, athletics departments can’t participate in a recruit’s unofficial visit until Sept. 1 of the recruit’s junior year in high school, and recruiting conversations during a school’s camp or clinic can’t happen before Sept. 1 of the junior year. Both rules apply to all sports but football and basketball, which have their own rules.

Separate from the other recruiting legislation, the Council also adopted noncontroversial legislation pertinent to recruiting in softball. The new rules prevent phone calls between coaches and recruits until Sept. 1 of the prospective student-athlete’s junior year and allow off-campus recruiting contact to begin the same date.

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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by Bodhisattva on 19/04/18, 02:05 pm

PowerKick wrote:
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/division-i-council-adopts-recruiting-legislation

For student-athletes in sports other than football and basketball, official visits now can begin Sept. 1 of a prospect’s junior year in high school instead of the first day of classes for senior year.


Additionally, athletics departments can’t participate in a recruit’s unofficial visit until Sept. 1 of the recruit’s junior year in high school, and recruiting conversations during a school’s camp or clinic can’t happen before Sept. 1 of the junior year. Both rules apply to all sports but football and basketball, which have their own rules.

Separate from the other recruiting legislation, the Council also adopted noncontroversial legislation pertinent to recruiting in softball. The new rules prevent phone calls between coaches and recruits until Sept. 1 of the prospective student-athlete’s junior year and allow off-campus recruiting contact to begin the same date.

Good thing that SRSA 07s committed before the rule was passed...

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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by AtThePitch on 19/04/18, 02:10 pm

Any mention of recruiting talks between coach and athlete prior to Sept. 1 of Junior year?

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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by jogobonito06 on 19/04/18, 02:48 pm

What’s old is new. Guess no more 7th graders for Anson
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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by DeltaTauChi on 19/04/18, 03:15 pm

AtThePitch wrote:Any mention of recruiting talks between coach and athlete prior to Sept. 1 of Junior year?

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As I understand it, for soccer, kids can call coach, and if coach picks up, they can talk, but coach can't contact kid other than generic bulk e-mails and snail-mails about camps.  No recruiting discussions while on campus for camps or contact of any kind with coaches or athletic department while on campus outside of a camp prior to Sept. 1 of Junior  Year.  Also no more verbal commitments before Sept. 1 of Junior Year.

Frankly, this announcement has a much bigger impact on recruiting than any of the DA v ECNL stuff going on right now.

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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by PowerKick on 19/04/18, 03:23 pm

DeltaTauChi wrote:
Frankly, this announcement has a much bigger impact on recruiting than any of the DA v ECNL stuff going on right now.

Could you please elaborate further?

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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by AtThePitch on 19/04/18, 03:29 pm

PowerKick wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
Frankly, this announcement has a much bigger impact on recruiting than any of the DA v ECNL stuff going on right now.

Could you please elaborate further?

Why start scouting and making offers in 8th grade when the kid can't say Jack until their junior year.

Should allow for a coach to take their time watching and for a kid to take their time developing.

So instead of being focused on little suzy having to make and be on the top team in the area no matter what little suzy can focus on developing and not so much the fact that she didnt play on the top team at Ulittle... no offers will be coming until Junior Year now.

Talk to any college coach and they 100 percent wanted the new regs.


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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by Zizou on 19/04/18, 03:56 pm

NCAA needed to make changes on the recruiting policy of young lady soccer players. It was clearly getting out of hand.

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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by DeltaTauChi on 19/04/18, 04:45 pm

AtThePitch wrote:
PowerKick wrote:
DeltaTauChi wrote:
Frankly, this announcement has a much bigger impact on recruiting than any of the DA v ECNL stuff going on right now.

Could you please elaborate further?

Why start scouting and making offers in 8th grade when the kid can't say Jack until their junior year.

Should allow for a coach to take their time watching and for a kid to take their time developing.

So instead of being focused on little suzy having to make and be on the top team in the area no matter what little suzy can focus on developing and not so much the fact that she didnt play on the top team at Ulittle... no offers will be coming until Junior Year now.

Talk to any college coach and they 100 percent wanted the new regs.

I don't see anything in the announcement that absolutely prevents a coach from making a verbal offer prior to Sept. 1 Junior Year, nor preventing a recruit from announcing a verbal commitment prior to Sept. 1 Junior Year.  Both will obviously still be non-binding until the NLI is signed during Senior year.

As I read it, a hot-$#!+ 8th grader could still dial up Anson Dorrance, and if AD answers, they can talk.  If AD has seen the kid play and feels so inclined, he could make a verbal offer to the kid during that phone call and the kid could give Anson a verbal commitment.

However, the new rules drastically reduce the permissible contact between recruits and coaches.  Most early commitments aren't made without the coach being able to discuss recruiting face-face with a recruit and his/her parents, and this face-face contact happens mostly at on campus ID camps and during unofficial campus visits.  The new rules eliminate all on-campus recruiting contact until Sept. 1 Junior year.  Unless the coach feels the kid is an absolute transcendental talent (i.e. a Mallory Pugh type), most coaches aren't going to go out on that limb without direct interaction on-campus.

I would expect that to have a direct trickle down effect on when and where coaches spend their off-campus time scouting prospects.  I would expect coaches to spend less time scouting at the U14 & U15 level, and spend far more time focused on U16 & U17.  

I think both of these changes will have much larger true impact to recruiting than DA stealing some thunder from ECNL.

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Re: NCAA D1 new recruiting rules

Post by HomeStretch on 19/04/18, 08:51 pm

This won't change much in girls soccer early recruiting. As mentioned earlier, it doesnt address early "verbal" commits, and it still allows all the same early contact except camps and unofficial visits. Vast majority of the early recruiting communication is funneled from the college coach to the club coach to the player/parents who then call as directed by the club coach. The rules would need to address this loophole or disallow verbals until jr year to have any real impact. 

Stopping schools from making a pitch at camps or unofficial visits doesnt stop the rat race to scout, contact and verbally commit younger and younger kids. If a school is inviting an early recruit for an unofficial visit, they've already decided they want her and have an idea of an offer. The kid is not selling herself to the school on this visit...that part has already been done. All this rule change does is make the club coach even more key to the whole process...the very same verbal offers will now be handled via orchestrated phone call instead of in person, on campus.

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