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Post by dfwsoccerdad on 22/05/18, 11:00 am

I think that it is generally accepted that DA is now superior to ODP. ODP should probably be renamed since most of the National Team comes from DA.

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Post by soccerdadof3tx on 02/08/18, 04:14 pm

My Son (Son Plays PPL) and Daughter (Plays DA 2) play for the North Texas ODP Teams. So here is my 2 cents.

DA Coaches- DA teams often have 5 to 8 coaches on one team. They have better access to trainers and support staff. DA is extremely picky on the player they take. A DA player can't play school sports. Training is intense and very good.

ODP- Each team has 1 to 2 Coaches. They are often club coaches or high school coaches. IN an ODP practice they are generally teaching a few skills and a lot of time on tactics and Soccer IQ. The practices are no were near what an DA Practice. There are 3 different pool levels.

North Texas Pool Players- When the north Texas Teams play a Tournament they pick the players they want to take.
Regional Pool Players- If you player is good enough to get invited to a Regional Camp they have a chance to earn a spot on a Regional Team. So for north Texas this is Region III South Region- States are Oklahoma, Taxes, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina.
National Team Pool- These are the best players from the Regional Pool Teams.

Practice Locations are determined by the size of the pool team and the coach. My Daughter practices in Fort Worth where the Coach is the Head Coach for a school. My son practices out at his coach's school as well.

ODP's cost can add up quickly. The cost can added up quickly with the program. ODP really has built my daughters confident to try out for better teams.

In North Texas ODP doesn't really have a good standing with parents and club coaches. But College Coaches know and like ODP players, a fact we have been told many times when talking to recruiters. It is something to help players look different and stand apart. Because of ODP my daughter has had some coaches reach out solely due to her ODP. IN other areas on the Country being on an ODP team is a big deal and carries a lot of weight with recruiters. My family's approach is it is just a another resume builder for a player.

At the end of the day my kids only do ODP because they enjoy the practices, the kids the meet, the coaching Environment, and it helps them reach their end goals of playing in college or maybe higher.

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Post by Guest on 05/03/19, 05:54 pm

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Post by Soccermom2888 on 24/05/19, 09:17 am

ODP unfortunately is dead in NTX. You can see coaches picking kids that are on their club teams for the tournament despite not being the best players. You have big gap between the top players and bottom players in the ODP practices and they design the practices/drills around the bottom players. So many of the kids get bored.
We get no feedback or information in general. Have to be asking them when the next tournaments will be so we don’t schedule anything in case our boy gets picked. They are generally are unresponsive. Then we travel to tournaments we get our butts kicked by the ODP teams fro other areas....
Just have not been impressed at all with the quality of soccer nor the administration of this program in this region.
Would not recommend it to anyone.

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Post by earbucket on 24/05/19, 09:49 am

My experience with ODP was great, but I had to Dribble my kid to do it. Agree that practices could get boring, but team usually scrimmaged with team two years older. And the Alabama trip with extra practices and holdover practices, was a nice payoff.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 24/05/19, 10:01 am

Soccermom2888 wrote:ODP unfortunately is dead in NTX. You can see coaches picking kids that are on their club teams for the tournament despite not being the best players. You have big gap between the top players and bottom players in the ODP practices and they design the practices/drills around the bottom players. So many of the kids get bored.
We get no feedback or information in general. Have to be asking them when the next tournaments will be so we don’t schedule anything in case our boy gets picked. They are generally are unresponsive.  Then we travel to tournaments we get our butts kicked by the ODP teams fro other areas....
Just have not been impressed at all with the quality of soccer nor the administration of this program in this region.
Would not recommend it to anyone.



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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 24/05/19, 10:03 am

earbucket wrote:My experience with ODP was great, but I had to Dribble my kid to do it.  Agree that practices could get boring, but team usually scrimmaged with team two years older.  And the Alabama trip with extra practices and holdover practices, was a nice payoff.  



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Post by SaulGoodman on 24/05/19, 11:58 am

My kid likes to earn money, and you could not pay him to attend another ODP event. Training is inconvenient, slow paced, and elementary. Most of the best kids never show up, yet get chosen for the higher level games anyway. The rules don’t apply to them. This program should be put out to pasture in North Texas.
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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 24/05/19, 12:29 pm

SaulGoodman wrote:My kid likes to earn money, and you could not pay him to attend another ODP event. Training is inconvenient, slow paced, and elementary. Most of the best kids never show up, yet get chosen for the higher level games anyway.  The rules don’t apply to them. This program should be put out to pasture in North Texas.



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Post by Soccerdad107 on 28/05/19, 10:23 pm

Every league in NTX is watered down. There are so many leagues and there is not 1 league that has far and away all the best talent. As far as ODP it is not even close to what it once was but I can assure you it is still relevant here in NTX and more so in other regions. My son is an 06 and is very active in ODP and has enjoyed every second of it the past 2 years. It is all about what you are looking to get out of it and what your expectations are. Are the practices as intense as a DA team well no, a lot of that is do to not practicing 3-5 days a week with a select group of players like DA does. Another thing I can assure and I can only speak of the 06 boys team, is that the first team can play with just about any team in any league same age.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 28/05/19, 11:13 pm

Soccerdad107 wrote:Every league in NTX is watered down. There are so many leagues and there is not 1 league that has far and away all the best talent. As far as ODP it is not even close to what it once was but I can assure you it is still relevant here in NTX and more so in other regions. My son is an 06 and is very active in ODP and has enjoyed every second of it the past 2 years. It is all about what you are looking to get out of it and what your expectations are. Are the practices as intense as a DA team well no, a lot of that is do to not practicing 3-5 days a week with a select group of players like DA does. Another thing I can assure and I can only speak of the 06 boys team, is that the first team can play with just about any team in any league same age.



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Post by Soccerdad107 on 28/05/19, 11:31 pm

And I am sure you have been at all the 06 ODP sessions to have knowledge to say that is the dumbest thing you have ever heard? Ok, I am sorry I am sure you are a know it all either DA, ECNL, or whatever parent. You and your kids are all so much better than us and ours kids.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 28/05/19, 11:47 pm

Soccerdad107 wrote:And I am sure you have been at all the 06 ODP sessions to have knowledge to say that is the dumbest thing you have ever heard? Ok, I am sorry I am sure you are a know it all either DA, ECNL, or whatever parent. You and your kids are all so much better than us and ours kids.



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Post by Soccerdad107 on 28/05/19, 11:51 pm

Ok yeah you are right, again you know it all. Great conversation with you though. You are a bright one, we all could learn a lot from you.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 29/05/19, 12:08 am

Soccerdad107 wrote:Ok yeah you are right, again you know it all. Great conversation with you though. You are a bright one, we all could learn a lot from you.



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Post by Soccerdad107 on 29/05/19, 12:11 am

It is always great to have a conversation with someone that can share so much insight and knowledge. What a waste of time you are.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 29/05/19, 12:15 am

Soccerdad107 wrote:It is always great to have a conversation with someone that can share so much insight and knowledge. What a waste of time you are.



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Post by earbucket on 29/05/19, 09:26 am

Let's make ODP great again. CC is full of inspirational videos.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on 07/06/19, 11:51 pm

earbucket wrote:Let's make ODP great again.  CC is full of inspirational videos.



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