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Post by Ntxsoccerdad1 on 6/8/2018, 11:33 pm

If you choose to follow your coach after he/she decides to leave the Dallas Texans organization, they will use your child as a pawn in their disagreements when a parent asks for a release.

“The Dallas Texans, in the past, has had no problems releasing departing players from their US Club soccer rosters. However, due to the circumstance of the coach’s mishandling of the separation, the Dallas Texans Soccer Club is not authorizing any releases at this time.
With the beginning of the new season a few weeks from now, everyone will becomes a free agent anyway.
At this point we wish everyone the best of luck with their new endeavors.

Thank you
Dallas Texans”


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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by Soccer_#1Fan on 6/8/2018, 11:56 pm

That does not sound very professional.

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by AngelinaGoalee on 6/9/2018, 12:00 am

Coming a loose at the seams....

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seems

Post by Soccer_#1Fan on 6/9/2018, 12:14 am

AngelinaGoalee wrote:Coming a loose at the seams....

seems like it.

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by Zizou on 6/9/2018, 6:51 am

You can still go to open DA and LHGCL practices without a release. US club has no authority to stop you. You just might add that you would be willing to play ECNL at the open practice if it would be a better fit. With at least three different governing bodies in women’s soccer releases and clubs controlling players movement is a thing of the past.

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by anothercrazysoccerdad on 6/9/2018, 7:39 am

Zizou wrote:You can still go to open DA and LHGCL practices without a release. US club has no authority to stop you. You just might add that you would be willing to play ECNL at the open practice if it would be a better fit. With at least three different governing bodies in women’s soccer releases and clubs controlling players movement is a thing of the past.

Unfortunately, DA has specific rules preventing current DA players from practicing, training, and tryouts with ANY other team while on a DA roster, without permission from their current DA club director. This is effective until the DA season is over.  The DA season is not deemed to be over until after the late June playoffs and/or showcase event in San Diego. The DA rules say, if you are training with another team without permission, you will not be allowed to play with that club the following year.

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Post by Holly Hunter on 6/9/2018, 7:57 am

anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:
Zizou wrote:You can still go to open DA and LHGCL practices without a release. US club has no authority to stop you. You just might add that you would be willing to play ECNL at the open practice if it would be a better fit. With at least three different governing bodies in women’s soccer releases and clubs controlling players movement is a thing of the past.

Unfortunately, DA has specific rules preventing current DA players from practicing, training, and tryouts with ANY other team while on a DA roster, without permission from their current DA club director. This is effective until the DA season is over.  The DA season is not deemed to be over until after the late June playoffs and/or showcase event in San Diego.  The DA rules say, if you are training with another team without permission, you will not be allowed to play with that club the following year.

Is it possible to post a link to the rules and regs for DA? Some folks I know are looking at the jump to DA but have no idea where to look for how the rules shake out compared to ECNL, NTX, etc.
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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by Zizou on 6/9/2018, 8:08 am

How can USSF stop you from playing ECNL?

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by anothercrazysoccerdad on 6/9/2018, 8:22 am

Zizou wrote:How can USSF stop you from playing ECNL?

Agreed, I don’t see how they can. Just stating what the DA rules say. However, if a club has DA and ECNL (Solar), the USSF may use their influence on your DA program or status if you are knowingly breaking their DA rules, and letting DA players from other clubs practice on your team. Especially if one club (Texans) is sensitive about it due to coaches (DT South, DA coach) leaving their club and going to another club (Solar), leading to the original post.


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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by anothercrazysoccerdad on 6/9/2018, 8:24 am

Holly Hunter wrote:
anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:
Zizou wrote:You can still go to open DA and LHGCL practices without a release. US club has no authority to stop you. You just might add that you would be willing to play ECNL at the open practice if it would be a better fit. With at least three different governing bodies in women’s soccer releases and clubs controlling players movement is a thing of the past.

Unfortunately, DA has specific rules preventing current DA players from practicing, training, and tryouts with ANY other team while on a DA roster, without permission from their current DA club director. This is effective until the DA season is over.  The DA season is not deemed to be over until after the late June playoffs and/or showcase event in San Diego.  The DA rules say, if you are training with another team without permission, you will not be allowed to play with that club the following year.

Is it possible to post a link to the rules and regs for DA?  Some folks I know are looking at the jump to DA but have no idea where to look for how the rules shake out compared to ECNL, NTX, etc.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/academy-operations

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by Zizou on 6/9/2018, 8:33 am

anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:
Zizou wrote:How can USSF stop you from playing ECNL?

Agreed, I don’t see how they can.  Just stating what the DA rules say.  However, if a club has DA and ECNL (Solar), the USSF may use their influence on your DA program or status if you are knowingly breaking their DA rules, and letting DA players from other clubs practice on your team.  Especially if one club (Texans) is sensitive about it due to coaches (DT South, DA coach) leaving their club and going to another club (Solar), leading to the original post.


Yep, sanctioning bodies and now clubs all getting their feelings hurt. Funny thing is they take it out on the paying customer not the coaches.

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by SickofStupidity on 6/9/2018, 9:20 am

anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:
Zizou wrote:You can still go to open DA and LHGCL practices without a release. US club has no authority to stop you. You just might add that you would be willing to play ECNL at the open practice if it would be a better fit. With at least three different governing bodies in women’s soccer releases and clubs controlling players movement is a thing of the past.

Unfortunately, DA has specific rules preventing current DA players from practicing, training, and tryouts with ANY other team while on a DA roster, without permission from their current DA club director. This is effective until the DA season is over.  The DA season is not deemed to be over until after the late June playoffs and/or showcase event in San Diego.  The DA rules say, if you are training with another team without permission, you will not be allowed to play with that club the following year.

Cue the BigEgo DA defense in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by oddsquad on 6/9/2018, 9:33 am

The original posting has nothing to do with DA or ECNL rules and everything to do with denying 8-10 year old girls the opportunity to play soccer.

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Post by SickofStupidity on 6/9/2018, 10:03 am

It would funny if the other clubs decided not to allow any releases to the Texans.

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by Zizou on 6/9/2018, 10:13 am

oddsquad wrote:The original posting has nothing to do with DA or ECNL rules and everything to do with denying 8-10 year old girls the opportunity to play soccer.

Yep, the paying customers being the players.

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by DeltaTauChi on 6/9/2018, 10:58 am

Welcome to Hassan's world.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 6/9/2018, 1:44 pm

....and what a world it is.

Turning out to be a messy divorce eh?!

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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by Holly Hunter on 6/10/2018, 6:42 am

anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:
Holly Hunter wrote:
anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:
Zizou wrote:You can still go to open DA and LHGCL practices without a release. US club has no authority to stop you. You just might add that you would be willing to play ECNL at the open practice if it would be a better fit. With at least three different governing bodies in women’s soccer releases and clubs controlling players movement is a thing of the past.

Unfortunately, DA has specific rules preventing current DA players from practicing, training, and tryouts with ANY other team while on a DA roster, without permission from their current DA club director. This is effective until the DA season is over.  The DA season is not deemed to be over until after the late June playoffs and/or showcase event in San Diego.  The DA rules say, if you are training with another team without permission, you will not be allowed to play with that club the following year.

Is it possible to post a link to the rules and regs for DA?  Some folks I know are looking at the jump to DA but have no idea where to look for how the rules shake out compared to ECNL, NTX, etc.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/academy-operations

Thanks - I know it's a bit off topic in this context, however, has a thread ever stayed completely on topic? Does ECNL2 & FDL follow their predecessors rule books? ECNL2 follow the ECNL rule book and FDL follow the DA rule book? Or do each of these new leagues have their own rule books that someone is aware of?
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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by hjm on 6/10/2018, 11:23 am

anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:
Zizou wrote:You can still go to open DA and LHGCL practices without a release. US club has no authority to stop you. You just might add that you would be willing to play ECNL at the open practice if it would be a better fit. With at least three different governing bodies in women’s soccer releases and clubs controlling players movement is a thing of the past.

Unfortunately, DA has specific rules preventing current DA players from practicing, training, and tryouts with ANY other team while on a DA roster, without permission from their current DA club director. This is effective until the DA season is over.  The DA season is not deemed to be over until after the late June playoffs and/or showcase event in San Diego.  The DA rules say, if you are training with another team without permission, you will not be allowed to play with that club the following year.

So does this mean that if when you play DA, there is only a period of a couple weeks (late June until July 1st) that you can't even practice with other teams without a release?

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Post by 5050Ball on 6/10/2018, 11:25 am

oddsquad wrote:The original posting has nothing to do with DA or ECNL rules and everything to do with denying 8-10 year old girls the opportunity to play soccer.

Why would an academy age player need a release?
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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by TxFutbal on 6/10/2018, 11:37 am

Academy players are not under contract with any club. They are free to practice and play with any team at any time. If you need your player's US Club card all you have to do is send a note to the Texans admin and copy Angie and/or Wade from US Club soccer. Texans must release your player US Club card to you upon request.

Select players are deemed free agents upon the completion of league play and State Cup whichever is last. Select players are free to practice with any team and play in any tournament during free agency. Most teams use US Club soccer rosters in June because with your card and filing a loan form to US Club admin, a player can freely play with any US Club affiliated team. The coach does not need to sign the loan form but the US club admin for the club needs to sign it. Generally, tournaments only require the US Club card as that is deemed a loaned player if a player/club has the card.

South Central: Wade Breaux
wbreaux@usclubsoccer.org | (979) 575-1070

Angie Loor, Region C
AdminRegionC@usclubsoccer.org | (843) 429-0006 x305

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Post by Soccer_#1Fan on 6/10/2018, 7:02 pm

TxFutbal wrote:Academy players are not under contract with any club.  They are free to practice and play with any team at any time.  If you need your player's US Club card all you have to do is send a note to the Texans admin and copy Angie and/or Wade  from US Club soccer.  Texans must release your player US Club card to you upon request.

Select players are deemed free agents upon the completion of league play and State Cup whichever is last.  Select players are free to practice with any team and play in any tournament during free agency.  Most teams use US Club soccer rosters in June because with your card and filing a loan form to US Club admin, a player can freely play with any US Club affiliated team.  The coach does not need to sign the loan form but the US club admin for the club needs to sign it.  Generally, tournaments only require the US Club card as that is deemed a loaned player if a player/club has the card.

South Central: Wade Breaux
wbreaux@usclubsoccer.org | (979) 575-1070

Angie Loor, Region C
AdminRegionC@usclubsoccer.org | (843) 429-0006 x305


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Re: Dallas Texans refuse to release non-select children

Post by Soccer08 on 6/12/2018, 10:26 am

Oh, TxFutbal! If it were only that easy.

Meanwhile, in the real soccer world, 8-10 year old girls are being forced to withdraw from tournaments. Messy divorce indeed! But sit back and watch the better man, or woman in this case, win! Muahahahah!!!!! Cool

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Post by boilerjoe_96 on 6/12/2018, 11:35 am

Texans this year, Sting last year wouldn't sign some for 07s when Flanny blew up. Same thing, different year. We went to US Club and got them signed.(as TXFutbal suggested)

Yall be fine in long run. Go to US Club and they will fix problem or have a weekend at the lake or mowing the yard.. and remember who doesn't play nice in future years.
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Post by TxFutbal on 6/12/2018, 11:59 am

Soccer08 wrote:Oh, TxFutbal!  If it were only that easy.  


It really is THAT EASY!  Make a single call to Wade and Wade makes a single call to Texans Admin.. BAM!  Or make a single call to Paul Stewart (Pres of Texans) Phone: 214-794-4754.  A coach cannot under any circumstances hold your US Club card hostage unless you owe them money.

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