Just a couple of quick points. Sting Blue is a good team and was promoted to D1 because they earned it. Every game in D1 is competitive as it should be and last night wasn't any different. Sting Blue plays very well on the defensive side of the ball and disrupted many of the attacks that Feet were throwing at them and their keeper had a good game. The bottom line is that the team that had most shots and shots on goal won the game. Welcome to D1 Sting Blue. I would be interested in someone posting some info on the Texans/TFC match. I watched the first half of the Solar/FCD game and when I left it was tied up at 1-1. FCD fka NTXUnited appeared to match up well with Solar and when I left I thought it was a evenly matched game. Solar looked to have had more chances in the first half but were only able to register 1 goal. I dont know what happened in the second half. Ahh, thanks Kenshi.

THANK YOU SIR ... may I have another?


TFC was very well organized (good shape and hustle) and coached (great clock management as well). Their girls played "good soccer" and held on for the tie. Ultimately they capitalized on a foul in the box.

Texans dominated but simply could not finish.

Very nice start for the bottom half of LHD1.


SIDE NOTE: SOLAR RED 94 (National Champs July 2010) tied Texans Red North 94 1-1 last night as well.

Solar, Texans, and Feet practiced and played well into the end of July and then took a rest for only a couple weeks ... one has to wonder if the summer schedule is coming home to roost a bit ... well except for Sting.

I know Solar is pretty banged up.

Kenshi Dave wrote:THANK YOU SIR ... may I have another?


TFC was very well organized (good shape and hustle) and coached (great clock management as well). Their girls played "good soccer" and held on for the tie. Ultimately they capitalized on a foul in the box.

Texans dominated but simply could not finish.

Very nice start for the bottom half of LHD1.


SIDE NOTE: SOLAR RED 94 (National Champs July 2010) tied Texans Red North 94 1-1 last night as well.

Solar, Texans, and Feet practiced and played well into the end of July and then took a rest for only a couple weeks ... one has to wonder if the summer schedule is coming home to roost a bit ... well except for Sting.


You had me going until you went back to add this. You are a funny guy!




I know Solar is pretty banged up.

And I know Solar is not banged up.

brokedawg wrote:Just a couple of quick points. Sting Blue is a good team and was promoted to D1 because they earned it. Every game in D1 is competitive as it should be and last night wasn't any different. Sting Blue plays very well on the defensive side of the ball and disrupted many of the attacks that Feet were throwing at them and their keeper had a good game. The bottom line is that the team that had most shots and shots on goal won the game. Welcome to D1 Sting Blue. I would be interested in someone posting some info on the Texans/TFC match. I watched the first half of the Solar/FCD game and when I left it was tied up at 1-1. FCD fka NTXUnited appeared to match up well with Solar and when I left I thought it was a evenly matched game. Solar looked to have had more chances in the first half but were only able to register 1 goal. I dont know what happened in the second half. Ahh, thanks Kenshi.

Good assesment and I agree with you. As for the FCD - Solar game, both teams had plenty of chances in the first half. In the second half FCD had the upper hand, and the team that had the most shots on goal won the game. Although that doesn't always happen.

DrSoccer wrote:who was the txns coach screaming at the end of the 95 game? Classy

easy there skippy. most coaches who feel they got screwed usually like to "have a word" with the ref. And...he didnt hang around very long and chew on them. Just said what he had to say and moved on. (at least the opposing coach hasnt mention the back-side of an opposing coach before...right....cuz THATS classy...i was there for that one, so go easy on the dart throwing)

I think you would have to agree that the major take down in the box that would have gone FOR TRD in the last 5 minutes of the game, which mirrored the call that had been given to TFC earlier in the second half resulting in their goal, should have been called. OR...what about the 2nd yellow on the player that would have been a red, but the same ref put the card back in his pocket once he saw the player's number??? What...he didnt want her out of the game?

Well...on the takedown in the last 5 minutes for TRD....the ref saw the foul...you know how I know....becuase he gave the "play-on" sign. In ref language, that means I see it and recognize the foul, but I am not going to call it. That is crap. I wasnt happy, but I stayed calm. It kept me up til 1am last night, but I stayed calm. :-)

no sour grapes here....TFC did what they had to....just giving you a little bit of justification for an upset coach that I believe had a couple more bullets in his gun that he didnt load on poor reffing. I mean..its REALLY not that hard, but some dingbats make it look like rocket science. ITS OBJECTIVE....keep it that way.

The TEAMS do what they have to do, the referees are there to enforce the Law of the Game and should NEVER want or not want to give a card of a called based on something other than what they saw or the assistant helped them see. A reach for a card and then a realization of it being a second is flat wrong (i didn't see but can surely believe it), they are not supposed to care except anything about fair play and doing their job (call the fouls and give the cards per the Laws).

I just caught the last 10 mins of the game as I was leaving our fields and heard the txn coach yelling accross the field so I stopped. I thought it was a D2 game at first with a lot of long balls. The coach was whinning to the ref constantly while his team banged long balls down the field and sprinted after them. The goalie just picked the long balls up. On that 'non-call' The txn fwd was wrecklessly flying downfield and collided with the other player, so a non call for sure, i didn't even consider it controversial from a neutral observer. but w/e it was just the first game of Lh, not the nat.championship.

"Wrecklessly?" I take it the Dr. in your name is an honorary degree, and not earned by actual college attendance.

haha no doubt about that. It's just an honorary degree that was bestowed upon me for watching so much youth soccer over the years. If some of these guys can call themselves coaches then I can be a Dr. I guess I could have said aimlessly or some other word that indicates that contact may have been initiated by the attacker.

I will give it that the refs do their best and that over a season bad calls even out.

The problem was the ref totally let the consequences of a call control his calls. In the first half he gave a yellow card to a TFC player for sticking her leg out to block a free kick while standing 2 yards from the ball. The same player a few minutes later committed a hard foul and the ref went to his pocket to pull the card. He then recognized the player and put the card back in his pocket. The hard foul either deserved a card or did not. It does not matter that the card was going to have to be a red and not a yellow.

He let the consequences of the game control his calls at the end of the game, too. It was tied 1-1 and TFC had put up a great fight. The ref knew it was a foul but decided that he could not give a PK to decide the game in the final 2 minutes and so he made the play on move. (The ref had earlier missed another takedown of the same player in the box.)

The refs job is to make the best calls he or she can. Yes they will miss calls as this ref did with the earlier takedown in the box, but a LHGCL ref's job is not to be an NBA style ref where the situation and the player's number of fouls control the whistle.

Anybody hear a score yet for Sting v. Revolution?

haha no doubt about that. It's just an honorary degree that was bestowed upon me for watching so much youth soccer over the years. If some of these guys can call themselves coaches then I can be a Dr. I guess I could have said aimlessly or some other word that indicates that contact may have been initiated by the attacker.

I was at the game...personally I wouldn't have called either a foul. Not so sure about the long ball comment- in
the last 10 minutes the Texans must have had 3-4 four missed scoring chances and two of them fairly wide open top of 6 box but shot over the cross bar.

Cmon Cnote give us the score/update before it gets posted on girlsclassicleague.org

BigBoy wrote:

DrSoccer wrote:who was the txns coach screaming at the end of the 95 game? Classy

easy there skippy. most coaches who feel they got screwed usually like to "have a word" with the ref. And...he didnt hang around very long and chew on them. Just said what he had to say and moved on. (at least the opposing coach hasnt mention the back-side of an opposing coach before...right....cuz THATS classy...i was there for that one, so go easy on the dart throwing)

I think you would have to agree that the major take down in the box that would have gone FOR TRD in the last 5 minutes of the game, which mirrored the call that had been given to TFC earlier in the second half resulting in their goal, should have been called. OR...what about the 2nd yellow on the player that would have been a red, but the same ref put the card back in his pocket once he saw the player's number??? What...he didnt want her out of the game?

Well...on the takedown in the last 5 minutes for TRD....the ref saw the foul...you know how I know....becuase he gave the "play-on" sign. In ref language, that means I see it and recognize the foul, but I am not going to call it. That is crap. I wasnt happy, but I stayed calm. It kept me up til 1am last night, but I stayed calm. :-)
no sour grapes here....TFC did what they had to....just giving you a little bit of justification for an upset coach that I believe had a couple more bullets in his gun that he didnt load on poor reffing. I mean..its REALLY not that hard, but some dingbats make it look like rocket science. ITS OBJECTIVE....keep it that way.

It may not help you sleep, but to help you understand: Any "Play On" verbal or sign from a Ref DOES NOT mean "I saw a Foul, but am not calling it"... It means "I saw the play AND it DOES NOT warrant a foul".. Trust me as a Ref and parent when I say the hardest thing to do is be unbias as a parent, especially as a favorite OR an underdog in a close game.... Your staying calm, but up to 1am thing was funny as heck!!

SoccerSounder wrote:

BigBoy wrote:

DrSoccer wrote:who was the txns coach screaming at the end of the 95 game? Classy

easy there skippy. most coaches who feel they got screwed usually like to "have a word" with the ref. And...he didnt hang around very long and chew on them. Just said what he had to say and moved on. (at least the opposing coach hasnt mention the back-side of an opposing coach before...right....cuz THATS classy...i was there for that one, so go easy on the dart throwing)

I think you would have to agree that the major take down in the box that would have gone FOR TRD in the last 5 minutes of the game, which mirrored the call that had been given to TFC earlier in the second half resulting in their goal, should have been called. OR...what about the 2nd yellow on the player that would have been a red, but the same ref put the card back in his pocket once he saw the player's number??? What...he didnt want her out of the game?

Well...on the takedown in the last 5 minutes for TRD....the ref saw the foul...you know how I know....becuase he gave the "play-on" sign. In ref language, that means I see it and recognize the foul, but I am not going to call it. That is crap. I wasnt happy, but I stayed calm. It kept me up til 1am last night, but I stayed calm. :-)
no sour grapes here....TFC did what they had to....just giving you a little bit of justification for an upset coach that I believe had a couple more bullets in his gun that he didnt load on poor reffing. I mean..its REALLY not that hard, but some dingbats make it look like rocket science. ITS OBJECTIVE....keep it that way.

It may not help you sleep, but to help you understand: Any "Play On" verbal or sign from a Ref DOES NOT mean "I saw a Foul, but am not calling it"... It means "I saw the play AND it DOES NOT warrant a foul".. Trust me as a Ref and parent when I say the hardest thing to do is be unbias as a parent, especially as a favorite OR an underdog in a close game.... Your staying calm, but up to 1am thing was funny as heck!!

Then at the very least the play was questionable. Otherwise, the ref would be uttering "play on" at every instance? Without a doubt, a push in the back will be called at mid-field and typically decapitation is warranted within the box to get a foul call. There should not be separate standards for what a foul is depending on where on the field the offense occurred or what the score is at the time. Just my two cents, both are good teams and most refs certainly earn their $25 a game.

Much more importantly, did Sting and Rev play last night or not? Somebody has to know the score...