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Post by nthudl on 05/07/18, 11:10 am

Looking for some feedback from parents and coaches. Would you value coaches feedback of your player more if video supported their assessment?

https://www.hudl.com/blog/the-impact-of-video-on-player-development

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Re: How are coaches assessing player development?

Post by Zizou on 05/07/18, 11:30 am

So, your asking the coach to do more work! Video is great but each player on the field has to be broken down and then graded. Unless you want to charge the parents more money for a independent to break the film down.

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Re: How are coaches assessing player development?

Post by Big Ern on 05/07/18, 12:17 pm

nthudl wrote:Looking for some feedback from parents and coaches. Would you value coaches feedback  of your player more if video supported their assessment?

https://www.hudl.com/blog/the-impact-of-video-on-player-development

No doubt!  There isn't much more valuable to a player's tactical/soccer IQ development than watching footage of themselves in action.  And Hudl Technique is a fantastic tool for breaking down the technical aspects of the game, especially in a training environment --

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Post by soccerjack on 05/07/18, 12:35 pm

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Post by Big Ern on 05/07/18, 12:38 pm

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Post by soccerjack on 05/07/18, 03:42 pm

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Post by Zizou on 05/07/18, 06:36 pm

Have you done any research on what a Hudl account cost is for a year? Sticker shock!

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Post by MurderWasTheCase on 05/07/18, 06:54 pm

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Post by Big Ern on 06/07/18, 10:48 am

Zizou wrote:Have you done any research on what a Hudl account cost is for a year? Sticker shock!

It's not cheap.  Because we split with the team we spent ~$115 for the year I think.  Great stuff for self evaluation and highlight videos since editing software is built in.  And the Hudl Technique app is either free or a couple bucks ... can't remember.

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Post by SoccerSuckers on 07/07/18, 12:04 pm

When you see all the coaches moving around getting fired or being investigated for criminal activity the only development per se is what they see in their bank account.

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Post by nthudl on 10/07/18, 08:30 am

Big Ern wrote:
Zizou wrote:Have you done any research on what a Hudl account cost is for a year? Sticker shock!

It's not cheap.  Because we split with the team we spent ~$115 for the year I think.  Great stuff for self evaluation and highlight videos since editing software is built in.  And the Hudl Technique app is either free or a couple bucks ... can't remember.

It depends on how it's funded. But when you have a roster of 16 players it's only about ~$25/player for a year subscription.

And to add to your comment, it's great for self evaluation. Allowing the players to take their development into their own hands.
In my opinion it does not to create more work for the coaches, but to allows there to be less bias when there is video. Some clubs even use video as a training session, as it's equally important to be able to see what worked and what didn't in real life situations, not on FIFA or in a professional game.

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Re: How are coaches assessing player development?

Post by Lefty on 10/07/18, 11:41 am

Most frequently used tools for assessing how developed a player is in NTX are:
. Birthdate
. Speed
. Height
. Weight


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Post by brazos on 10/07/18, 11:47 am

You left out "Parent's net worth"

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Post by Lefty on 10/07/18, 01:19 pm

brazos wrote:You left out "Parent's net worth"

Sorry, had that categorized under the "Players Potential Category"

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Post by Big Ern on 10/07/18, 08:53 pm

brazos wrote:You left out "Parent's net worth"

I'd (sorry Goose ... We'd) love to hear your explanation as to how a "parent's net worth" has anything to do with player development assessment and placement.

And Lefty -- C'mon now son ... We all expect a bit better outta you Wink

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Post by Lefty on 11/07/18, 09:24 am

Big Ern wrote:
brazos wrote:You left out "Parent's net worth"

I'd (sorry Goose ... We'd) love to hear your explanation as to how a "parent's net worth" has anything to do with player development assessment and placement.

And Lefty -- C'mon now son ... We all expect a bit better outta you Wink

Be careful what you ask for.  

Seen more then a couple cases over the years where a marginal player is placed on a team they can not contribute to, in a competitive game, and their parents scholarship a key player. Sometimes the key player is an existing one, or in some cases a new player the team.  

Usually does not work out well in the long run, but it does not stop coaches trying to climb the ladder from trying it.

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Post by SoccerSuckers on 11/07/18, 06:10 pm

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Post by Big Ern on 11/07/18, 07:16 pm

Lefty wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
brazos wrote:You left out "Parent's net worth"

I'd (sorry Goose ... We'd) love to hear your explanation as to how a "parent's net worth" has anything to do with player development assessment and placement.

And Lefty -- C'mon now son ... We all expect a bit better outta you Wink

Be careful what you ask for.  

Seen more then a couple cases over the years where a marginal player is placed on a team they can not contribute to, in a competitive game, and their parents scholarship a key player.  Sometimes the key player is an existing one, or in some cases a new player the team.  

Usually does not work out well in the long run, but it does not stop coaches trying to climb the ladder from trying it.

Gotcha Lefty --

But seems there may be some confusion regarding what you think I was "asking" for ...

Agreed that this might happen sporadically here and there.  Might've even happened at one of your kid's teams over the years, but I can attest that it doesn't happen all that often (if at all) at the highest levels.  Those coaches tend to play players that win them championships (maybe due to the lack of rungs left in the ladder?) ... But what do I know?

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Post by MurderWasTheCase on 11/07/18, 07:17 pm

The assessing I see is coaches poaching players from other teams to keep their income stable. A prime example of this is at FCD where coaches are consistently back stabbing one another while shaking hands face to face.

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Post by Big Ern on 11/07/18, 07:25 pm

MurderWasTheCase wrote:The assessing I see is coaches poaching players from other teams to keep their income stable.  A prime example of this is at FCD where coaches are consistently back stabbing one another while shaking hands face to face.  

Ohhh Snoopy --

So, so cliche, tired, and most of all ... amiss.

I feel for ya big guy.

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Post by For Fuchs Sake on 12/07/18, 08:01 am

So funny this was mentioned. There was a certain group of coaches that offered a camp/trainings where the kids would get evaluated and the coaches would tell the parents things good at and things they needed to work on..ask those parents if they ever got anything? Fraud and beyond that stealing money. What licensing does coach have? How they are qualified to evaluate? Scamming people....

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Post by Zizou on 12/07/18, 09:25 am

No place is it written that a coach has to be liscensed to work at a camp and give feedback on what a player could work on to improve their game. Posters on his board have become very good at wording post to pull parents in. If you feel you were done wrong then don’t return spend your money elsewhere.

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Post by SoccerSuckers on 12/07/18, 01:45 pm

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Post by nthudl on 13/07/18, 09:12 am

For Fuchs Sake wrote:So funny this was mentioned.  There was a certain group of coaches that offered a camp/trainings where the kids would get evaluated and the coaches would tell the parents things good at and things they needed to work on..ask those parents if they ever got anything?  Fraud and beyond that stealing money.  What licensing does coach have?  How they are qualified to evaluate?  Scamming people....

In steps using video to hold them accountable. A coach having a license doesn't mean they are a good coach. The US Licensing system is expensive. On the flip side, someone that is able to invest in their coaching education or finds ways to continue their coaching education says a lot about that coach.

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