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TOP TEN 08’ BOYS TEAMS

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Re: TOP TEN 08’ BOYS TEAMS

Post by Cobra Kai on 06/12/18, 03:01 am

Did you just compare seeding of a 60+ team qualifying tournament, to the seeding of a standard tournament with 12 or fewer teams? Brilliant

And your luck of the draw as far as “which teams the tournament decides to pair against within the brackets”. There is no luck in that. It’s pretty clear in every tournament I have ever seen that the teams are all seeded 1through whatever and then placed in their respective brackets accordingly. Even if a team feels they should be ranked above another team, it usually all evens out within the brackets

And as far as “which teams sign up to play” at this point, all these teams and coaches know each other. For the most part,everyone knows which tournaments the top teams sign up for. If a team doesnt sign up for these tournaments, then that’s on them. I know tournaments like Bobby Rhine or veterans cup are smaller tournaments and most top u11 teams don’t normally sign up for those unless they are looking for extra games, but when a top team doesn’t sign up for the Labor Day tournament, Which awards a ton of got soccer points to the champion...well I don’t want to hear that team complaining about luck of the draw when they get a low seed in a later tournament.

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Post by Mr. Miyagi on 06/12/18, 09:45 am

Cobra Kai wrote:Did you just compare seeding of a 60+ team qualifying tournament, to the seeding of a standard tournament with 12 or fewer teams?  Brilliant

And your luck of the draw as far as “which teams the tournament decides to pair against within the brackets”. There is no luck in that. It’s pretty clear in every tournament I have ever seen that the teams are all seeded 1through whatever and then placed in their respective brackets accordingly. Even if a team feels they should be ranked above another team, it usually all evens out within the brackets

And as far as “which teams sign up to play” at this point, all these teams and coaches know each other. For the most part,everyone knows which tournaments the top teams sign up for. If a team doesnt sign up for these tournaments, then that’s on them. I know tournaments like Bobby Rhine or veterans cup are smaller tournaments and most top u11 teams don’t normally sign up for those unless they are looking for extra games, but when a top team doesn’t sign up for the Labor Day tournament, Which awards a ton of got soccer points to the champion...well I don’t want to hear that team complaining about luck of the draw when they get a low seed in a later tournament.

As a matter of fact I did question the seeding of the 60+ team qualifying tournament, to the seeding of a standard tournament with 12 or fewer teams. Its actually not brilliance, but more like common sense. Now keep in mind that I as well as others were only questioning the seeding of the top 10-14 teams. Putting any two of these top 10-14 teams in the same bracket with each other while only allowing one team the opportunity to advance makes absolutely no sense. If you intend on having the best "teams" in your league, you would seed them accordingly to give them the best opportunity to advance.  Pairing the top teams within the same bracket results in one of those top teams being placed in D2, while allowing a weaker team with an undeserving seed to play in its own bracket and be placed in D1. With that, my sons team had no problem qualifying for D1, but its definitely messed up that some really good teams are having to basically waste a year playing against D2 teams, when they without question should be playing against D1 competition.

As far as luck of the draw, and who signs up for what, I don't really disagree with you there. But as far as seeding, there is still a "human component", which can lead to errors or "misjudgments". But for the smaller tournaments, it usually corrects itself because of the elimination rounds, which is not the case for tournaments like the King Tut and Classic League QT. But when you have parents talking about this team won this tournament, and this team won that tournament, does it really matter if there is not a turnout of good teams that are able to sign up and play that weekend? Some of these coaches are even going so far as to cherry pick which tournaments their teams play in, in hopes of getting a "cheap" tournament Championship. LOL. But I have no issue with Solar McKinney. They seem to be at every big tournament and represent the Solar name well.
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Post by ScubaSteve on 06/12/18, 02:42 pm

My kid doesn't play for Allegiance he plays on one.of the big clubs with some of his buddies. They play boring long ball like all the other D1 teams. Solar McKinney does move the ball around but not like Allegiance. I've been working overseas for 2 years so I'm just now getting up to speed with my kid's soccer. I have to say I'm not at all impressed with his team or most of the D1 teams. It's boring back and forth ugly foot race muscle it in long ball. Kicks are long ball, Liverpool long ball, it's all boring long ball. I did see McKinney play Suarez and McKinney was moving the ball around but Suarez was sucking them into playing ugly long ball. KcKinney is the better team and if they would have slowed it down and play possession they would take Suarez. Allegiance and McKinney are the only 2 teams playing the right way, developing the kids the right way.

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Post by Rooster08dad on 07/12/18, 06:02 pm

So let’s get this thread back on track. Here is my 1st half power rankings.

1.FCD Suarez: they beat most teams they play and have consistently gotten results against good teams.
2.Solar McKinney: they have the most talent on the roster and Coach seems to have them turned into the wind.
3. Liverpool Heighway: they had one loss but haven’t really played any tournaments since Labor Day so who knows if they are keeping up.
4. Kick: they are in first place in the Classic League but didn’t play anyone and haven’t been lighting the world on fire in tournaments.
5. After this it’s like playing darts take your pick...


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Post by ScubaSteve on 07/12/18, 06:21 pm

I was fine with the long ball, then I saw Allegiance play, wow, just wow.

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Post by soccerfanatic2008 on 08/12/18, 01:32 am

Rooster I agree with your list with the exception of your number 1 spot. With the exception of McKinney, fcd Suarez hasn’t beat any of the top 5 teams. Their win against McKinney was well earned, so I am not taking anything away from that however, they followed that with a tie and a loss to the number 9, and 10 teams respectively. I don’t put them anywhere close to the top spot. My prediction is they will finish classic league in 4th or 5th spot. If Salazar continues playing the way they did last month, I actually think they will finish ahead of suarez

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Post by Rooster08dad on 09/12/18, 11:56 pm

Ya I just put Suarez #1 purely off results against McKinney. If we are making a list off talent McKinney is the clear number 1.

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Post by 1a2b3c on 10/12/18, 11:17 am

@ScubaSteve

I don’t think you’re actually trying to boost Allegiance, I think you’re trying to make people hate them with your annoying posts.
Pedro is a great Coach, but I’m sure even he knows his 08 team needs more time and 1-2 good players before they can be mentioned in the “top teams” discussion.
Sure they pass the ball well and more than any other 08 team.
But you cannot ignore the facts. His 08s are not on the same level as his 07s. No team is.
Just like you claim to do. I have watched both teams play when the schedule allows. Even my BB can tell you the difference.
His 07s have players on the bench that can start on any DA team. His 08s don’t have any subs.

He developed his 07 team from the bottom they say. And it looks like the 08s are heading on the same direction. But they are not there yet.

So why don’t you just drop the annoying posts….. we all know they can pass…. But that is not the only way to play the game.

2008 Top Teams

1 - Solar Mckinney - did a good job recruiting. Most talented team in the area.
2 - Kicks Black - skilled and athletic
3 - FC Dallas Suarez - Strong will - fighters
4 - Liverpool Heighway - working things out
5 - Dallas Texans Red - will get it done

6 - 10 - work in progress…….

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