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Arch Stanton on Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:59 am

Ferris wrote:
AgGermany wrote:CNote, elaborate on what you mean... what would the league look like?

I believe CNote is referring to the discussion and VERY likely potential that ECNL will be restricting play for member teams in such a way that ECNL teams won't be allowed to participate in LHGCL or Premiere League. The thinking is that this goes into effect starting next year. I think it's also a common thought that Texans will be joining ECNL starting next year. I'm sure CNote will set me straight if I've messed anything up.

So as for what the League (LHGCL) would look like, D1 would only have Revolution, Sting Blue, and TFC left, which would probably mean that top 5 from D2 would be promoted, etc, etc, with the trickle down effect through D3, Plano and Arlington.

But in LH the club keeps the bye right? So the top team that plays ECNL might not play LH and the bye could go to the next "club" team even for D1? FC Dallas ECNL team is made up of different players from each team in the age group so I'm really curious as to how this would affect them.

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Cnote on Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:02 pm

AgGermany wrote:CNote, elaborate on what you mean... what would the league look like?

Ok, Ten team in D2, eight teams in D3, eigth teams in D1, remove five, now it's three in D1. Do you move five up from D2 and five up from D3 and five more from PPL. Who is in? who must qualify? or will there be enough teams at this point. I'm not sure of the out come for any of this. My two cents.

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Ferris on Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:08 pm

Cnote wrote:
AgGermany wrote:CNote, elaborate on what you mean... what would the league look like?

Ok, Ten team in D2, eight teams in D3, eigth teams in D1, remove five, now it's three in D1. Do you move five up from D2 and five up from D3 and five more from PPL. Who is in? who must qualify? or will there be enough teams at this point. I'm not sure of the out come for any of this. My two cents.

Right, I agree, 5 teams up to D1 (although Arch's comment and FC's approach to ECNL is a wildcard). I think Arch is right that the club would retain the bye in most normal situation (this may be classified as non-normal though). So it may not simply be next 5 from D2, etc. I do think this likely means 5 more spots or so at QT.

As for who is in, who must qualify, etc. I think you're absolutely right...nobody has any idea at this point. It's still a long ways off and I imagine everything is far from a done deal. While it's fun to talk about, its all speculation at this point, especially on my part.

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Cnote on Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:11 pm

Arch,
Well said. Texans will have no choice, the GREAT AND POWERFUL SWOOSH! may force the issue, our it's the right thing for the Texans to do.

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Gunners on Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:51 pm

Cnote wrote:Arch,
Well said. Texans will have no choice, the GREAT AND POWERFUL SWOOSH! may force the issue, our it's the right thing for the Texans to do.

No 'may' about it. Barring the extraordinary, the Texans will be in ECNL next year (along with the other big girls club holdout SoCal Blues).

As for who will get the LHGCL byes from the departed ECNL teams; all you have to do is follow the money. Every team mentioned (except Feet) has a "2nd" team that will step into the spot vacated by the departing ECNL teams. Why would any club give up the revenue from placing a team in the top local league when there will undoubtedly be a demand to play on it? Last I checked that is what they're in business for...oh that and developing soccer players.

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gdubya on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:02 pm

Take away the top 5 in D1 and is it really the top local league anymore?

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socrocks on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:11 pm

Ferris wrote:
AgGermany wrote:CNote, elaborate on what you mean... what would the league look like?

I believe CNote is referring to the discussion and VERY likely potential that ECNL will be restricting play for member teams in such a way that ECNL teams won't be allowed to participate in LHGCL or Premiere League. The thinking is that this goes into effect starting next year. I think it's also a common thought that Texans will be joining ECNL starting next year. I'm sure CNote will set me straight if I've messed anything up.

So as for what the League (LHGCL) would look like, D1 would only have Revolution, Sting Blue, and TFC left, which would probably mean that top 5 from D2 would be promoted, etc, etc, with the trickle down effect through D3, Plano and Arlington.

Understanding this is a '95 thread, I can only speak for the Feet '96 team....we are still planning to play LHGCL next year (this from our coach and DOC). As I understand it, ECNL teams are opnly prohibited from playing Premier League, State Cup and Regionals...not local league play. I'm really not sure why a D1, ECNL team would opt to not play LHGCL (until that option is taken away).

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Arch Stanton on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:26 pm

socrocks wrote:
Ferris wrote:
AgGermany wrote:CNote, elaborate on what you mean... what would the league look like?

I believe CNote is referring to the discussion and VERY likely potential that ECNL will be restricting play for member teams in such a way that ECNL teams won't be allowed to participate in LHGCL or Premiere League. The thinking is that this goes into effect starting next year. I think it's also a common thought that Texans will be joining ECNL starting next year. I'm sure CNote will set me straight if I've messed anything up.

So as for what the League (LHGCL) would look like, D1 would only have Revolution, Sting Blue, and TFC left, which would probably mean that top 5 from D2 would be promoted, etc, etc, with the trickle down effect through D3, Plano and Arlington.

Understanding this is a '95 thread, I can only speak for the Feet '96 team....we are still planning to play LHGCL next year (this from our coach and DOC). As I understand it, ECNL teams are opnly prohibited from playing Premier League, State Cup and Regionals...not local league play. I'm really not sure why a D1, ECNL team would opt to not play LHGCL (until that option is taken away).

So, then who would play Premier League if top four from league are prohibited? 5-8? Sounds semi-premier at that point. ECNL just takes the place of it I guess (if Texans join).

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socrocks on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:33 pm

I assume the next 4 in line would be candidates. But there appears to be a move to combine the (3) Region III Premier League factions (East, West and Central). IMO, this just may be a preemptive move in order to deal with the expected ECNL fallout. Rather than have 12 teams in West, 12 in East, 12 in Central, etc, the league would encompass the full 12-13 states. This might translate to a better draw for competition but it would also mean lengthier travel for those involved.

But, your question is relevant. If Sting, Texans, Feet, Solar and FC Dallas are not candidates....that would only leave (3) D1 teams from which to choose.

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skippy on Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:44 pm

Why do the 95 DIII teams only get 9 games in the fall when all the other high school age teams (including other DIII age groups) get about 12 games? Am I reading something on the schedules wrong?

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justfurkicks on Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:53 pm

skippy wrote:Why do the 95 DIII teams only get 9 games in the fall when all the other high school age teams (including other DIII age groups) get about 12 games? Am I reading something on the schedules wrong?

You only have 8 teams which means 14 games. If you played 12 games in the fall that would only leave 2 for the Spring.

Even though DII plays 12 games in the fall that still leaves 6 for the spring because of the 10 teams.

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texflats on Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:16 pm

justfurkicks wrote:
The 95's are special this year.

That's what my kid tells me at least once a day!

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Pitchmon on Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:13 pm

texflats wrote:
justfurkicks wrote:
The 95's are special this year.

That's what my kid tells me at least once a day!

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dumbdad9596 on Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:38 pm

The argument for the ECNL teams playing LHGCL is our local league generally gives ECNL teams some top flight competition with no travel. Playing a regional ECNL league and a regional Premier League is probably just too much travel for HIGH SCHOOL girls and their families to absorb. I tend to believe that common sense (even if that is rare amongst of soccer parents) will help us out in creating local league play. Local competition could still be under the ECNL umbrella, but deserting the competition that the non ECNL teams such as Rev bring to D1 for even the Sting 95s of the world seems idiotic.

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AgGermany on Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:05 pm

This is not about competition... it is about Elite Clubs, revenue and power. Ok... it is what it is...

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