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Post by Full Kit Wankers Beware on Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:07 am

Props to the three local girls (1 Defender, 2 Forwards) who will be playing for the US U-17's in Uruguay in a few weeks.  Are we actually doing something better locally or is it just chance that the players are from the area?  Congrats ladies!!


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Post by Zizou on Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:15 am

Not chance, those players are very good and have been developed through an increasingly up and coming women’s program on the national level for the past 5 years.

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Post by Full Kit Wankers Beware on Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:20 am

Zizou wrote:Not chance, those players are very good and have been developed through an increasingly up and coming women’s program on the national level for the past 5 years.

Your statement seems to support the chance argument?  Have we done anything better or different locally to get them there?
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Post by Zizou on Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:51 am

I can tell you these young ladies are not on this team by chance.

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Post by Full Kit Wankers Beware on Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:23 pm

Zizou wrote:I can tell you these young ladies are not on this team by chance.

Definitely not questioning the ladies.

The question is not if they are on the team by chance but if they are from north Texas by chance.  Did north Texas soccer do something differently to help get them to where they are?  Maybe they are just that talented and would be there no matter where in the US they lived during their youth soccer development.

The short simpler version of the question...Is the development of players in North Texas improving?
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Post by Zizou on Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:04 pm

Yes, their are pockets of coaching groups that have made major advancements. Those coaching groups along with a consolidation of talent are making a difference. The talent has always been here in NTX. My opinion your seing the talent consolidate into these coaching groups that is making a difference. I would adventure into who they are but that would just be my opinion and would definitely create a pisssing match.

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Post by BENDMEOVER on Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:46 pm

Zizou I think the real question is given our share of the soccer market dont you think we should have a larger share of the players on these teams? I dont think its necessarily development but are we capturing the talent properly and positioning them to succeed.

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Post by Full Kit Wankers Beware on Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:37 pm

SoccerSuckers wrote:Zizou I think the real question is given our share of the soccer market dont you think we should have a larger share of the players on these teams? I dont think its necessarily development but are we capturing the talent properly and positioning them to succeed.

This is north Texas the first thing we worry about is capturing their money then we worry about talent...

Joking aside, I would say 3 of 21 is not too bad?  Certainly improving.
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Post by BENDMEOVER on Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:23 pm

When you peel the onion and get to that tasty core you start uncovering the real facts.

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Post by Checkpoint Charlie on Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:27 pm

Full Kit Wankers Beware wrote:
SoccerSuckers wrote:Zizou I think the real question is given our share of the soccer market dont you think we should have a larger share of the players on these teams? I dont think its necessarily development but are we capturing the talent properly and positioning them to succeed.

This is north Texas the first thing we worry about is capturing their money then we worry about talent...

Joking aside, I would say 3 of 21 is not too bad?  Certainly improving.



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Post by earbucket on Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:41 pm

And isn't one of the younger ones actually on the U18 team? So, there easily could have been 4 on the team.

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Post by 05DD on Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:00 am

Full Kit Wankers Beware wrote:
SoccerSuckers wrote:Zizou I think the real question is given our share of the soccer market dont you think we should have a larger share of the players on these teams? I dont think its necessarily development but are we capturing the talent properly and positioning them to succeed.

This is north Texas the first thing we worry about is capturing their money then we worry about talent...

Joking aside, I would say 3 of 21 is not too bad?  Certainly improving.
That isn't too far from the truth. The difference now is these kids are being seen more by US Soccer thanks to payers (parents) putting them in front of US scouts. Brilliant, devious scheme if you ask me. (4:00 mark)


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Post by BENDMEOVER on Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:03 am

Oh ok I'm convinced now. Keep selling the ideo after awhile it becomes real.

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Post by TrustTheProcess on Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:33 am

05DD wrote:
Full Kit Wankers Beware wrote:
SoccerSuckers wrote:Zizou I think the real question is given our share of the soccer market dont you think we should have a larger share of the players on these teams? I dont think its necessarily development but are we capturing the talent properly and positioning them to succeed.

This is north Texas the first thing we worry about is capturing their money then we worry about talent...

Joking aside, I would say 3 of 21 is not too bad?  Certainly improving.
That isn't too far from the truth. The difference now is these kids are being seen more by US Soccer thanks to payers (parents) putting them in front of US scouts. Brilliant, devious scheme if you ask me. (4:00 mark)
Just asking...but how do you “put” them in front of US scouts? How much does that run a parent? Asking for a friend.

Maybe there’s something on Groupon....

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Post by yellowcard5 on Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:27 pm

[quote="earbucket"]And isn't one of the younger ones actually on the U18 team? So, there easily could have been 4 on the team.[/quote]


Not exactly. She wasn't called into the U17 camp to ultimately select the team.

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Post by Zizou on Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:56 pm

05DD wrote:
Full Kit Wankers Beware wrote:
SoccerSuckers wrote:Zizou I think the real question is given our share of the soccer market dont you think we should have a larger share of the players on these teams? I dont think its necessarily development but are we capturing the talent properly and positioning them to succeed.

This is north Texas the first thing we worry about is capturing their money then we worry about talent...

Joking aside, I would say 3 of 21 is not too bad?  Certainly improving.
That isn't too far from the truth. The difference now is these kids are being seen more by US Soccer thanks to payers (parents) putting them in front of US scouts. Brilliant, devious scheme if you ask me. (4:00 mark)

I was able to purchase a US scout for free skills. Lol,

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Post by BENDMEOVER on Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:42 pm

I believe. I hear the bells.

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Post by earbucket on Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:14 pm

yellowcard5 wrote:
earbucket wrote:And isn't one of the younger ones actually on the U18 team? So, there easily could have been 4 on the team.


Not exactly.  She wasn't called into the U17 camp to ultimately select the team.

Ok, but she's listed on the U18 National Team roster and in my opinion would have made the U17 team if invited.

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Post by Zizou on Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:46 pm

Fools,

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Post by yellowcard5 on Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:20 pm

[quote="earbucket"][quote="yellowcard5"][quote="earbucket"]And isn't one of the younger ones actually on the U18 team? So, there easily could have been 4 on the team.[/quote]


Not exactly.  She wasn't called into the U17 camp to ultimately select the team.
[/quote]

Ok, but she's listed on the U18 National Team roster and in my opinion would have made the U17 team if invited. [/quote]

Think about what you just said. The girl in question is a great player but is behind at least 2 or 3 players at her position in this team.  This is a World Cup, the best age eligible players are selected.

Nothing to be ashamed about, by the way. She’s two years younger than most of the selected girls.

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Post by Big Ern on Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:22 pm

TrustTheProcess wrote:
05DD wrote:
Full Kit Wankers Beware wrote:
SoccerSuckers wrote:Zizou I think the real question is given our share of the soccer market dont you think we should have a larger share of the players on these teams? I dont think its necessarily development but are we capturing the talent properly and positioning them to succeed.

This is north Texas the first thing we worry about is capturing their money then we worry about talent...

Joking aside, I would say 3 of 21 is not too bad?  Certainly improving.
That isn't too far from the truth. The difference now is these kids are being seen more by US Soccer thanks to payers (parents) putting them in front of US scouts. Brilliant, devious scheme if you ask me. (4:00 mark)
Just asking...but how do you “put” them in front of US scouts? How much does that run a parent? Asking for a friend.

Maybe there’s something on Groupon....

About half as much as most of the others ; )

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Post by timmyh on Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:14 am

Zizou wrote:Yes, their are pockets of coaching groups that have made major advancements. Those coaching groups along with a consolidation of talent are making a difference. The talent has always been here in NTX. My opinion your seing the talent consolidate into these coaching groups that is making a difference. I would adventure into who they are but that would just be my opinion and would definitely create a pisssing match.

Rather than state an opinion about who are the coaches making a difference, how about simple facts for who was training these girls from, say, U11 through U15 (the most formulaic years, imo)?
That wouldn't start a pissing match. Anybody know who has trained then the past 5 years or so? Those coaches deserve some recognition in helping along the way, I would think.

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Post by Zizou on Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:06 am

Agree,

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Post by BENDMEOVER on Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:28 am

The lack of representation on all these top teams over the years really shows how bad it is.

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Post by 05DD on Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:55 am

Big Ern wrote:
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05DD wrote:
Full Kit Wankers Beware wrote:
SoccerSuckers wrote:Zizou I think the real question is given our share of the soccer market dont you think we should have a larger share of the players on these teams? I dont think its necessarily development but are we capturing the talent properly and positioning them to succeed.

This is north Texas the first thing we worry about is capturing their money then we worry about talent...

Joking aside, I would say 3 of 21 is not too bad?  Certainly improving.
That isn't too far from the truth. The difference now is these kids are being seen more by US Soccer thanks to payers (parents) putting them in front of US scouts. Brilliant, devious scheme if you ask me. (4:00 mark)
Just asking...but how do you “put” them in front of US scouts? How much does that run a parent? Asking for a friend.

Maybe there’s something on Groupon....

About half as much as most of the others ; )
But only if you're able to ride the bus. Otherwise, you're going to need the Groupon. Wink
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