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Post by Gameday 04 New on 15/11/18, 12:47 pm

Gee Thanks DTSC Fall Festival!?

FIRST THEY HIT YOU WITH A PREEMPTIVE RETORT:
Dallas Cup Executive Director Gordon Jago stated that “We are often criticized by local clubs that they are superior to many of the teams that we have invited.  The Texans’ Fall Festival tournament will give them the opportunity to prove us wrong.

THEN A TYPO:
The 2017 (assume 2018) DTSC Fall Festival is again a Qualifying tournament for the 2019 Dallas Cup XL (April 14 - April 21, 2019).

THEN, THE FINE PRINT:
d.     U15 Boys – any NON – NORTH TEXAS (NTSSA) team that wins the Red (top) division

GEE THANKS, so much for proving them wrong?  

Here you go SOUTH TEXAS, here you go OKLAHOMA. Have at it.  

And who did the Dallas Kicks piss off? Why is the #3 team in N Texas, #2 in Classic get placed in the second tier? Not that it matters because they wouldn't get an invite anyways, but it is insulting.

What message does this send to not only the Kicks players, but all of the teams, coaches and players of North Texas?
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Post by rocio-27 on 15/11/18, 05:18 pm

It sucks for U15 North Texas teams that were waiting for this tournament qualifier.The Bobby Rhine its also a non qualifier for U15 non-North Texas teams.We saw that and decided not to register team to neither

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Post by Gameday 04 New on 16/11/18, 02:26 pm

AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN U-15 THAT ONLY THIS AGE GROUP RECEIVES THE NORTH TEXAS PENALTY??

1. Teams that will qualify for the 2019 Dr Pepper Dallas Cup XL will be the following:

a. U12 Boys – any team team that wins the Red (top) division

b. U13 Boys – any team team that wins the Red (top) division

c. U14 Boys – any team team that wins the Red (top) division

d. U15 Boys – any NON – NORTH TEXAS (NTSSA) team that wins the Red (top) division

e. U16 Boys – any team that wins the Red (top) division

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Post by Gameday 04 New on 18/11/18, 08:02 am

UPDATE from the Oklahoma Energy Central's application to the Dallas Cup - OOPS I MEAN- DTSC FALL FESTIVAL. (Did I say that out loud??)

Dreams do come true even for selection committees as OK Energy have a direct path toward, and will win  the tournament and the invitation to the DALLAS Cup.  

It's a shame that Chelsea East didn't play, but I don't blame them as they probably read the fine print. From what I saw, CE could beat OK Energy 2 out of 3 times.

To the rest of the NORTH TEXAS teams thank you for paying your tournament fees.
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Post by upper95 on 18/11/18, 08:31 pm

Austin Texans beat OK Energy in semi's and won the final against FC Premier in PK's

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Post by Gameday 04 New on 19/11/18, 09:30 am

That is right upper95, my prediction was wrong.  

OPINION:
BUT, let's not lose sight of the DTSC FF AND/or DALLAS CUP's agenda which was the arbitrary decision to single out ONLY THE U-15s and not offer the invitation for winning the tournament.

ASK YOURSELF:
Was this a Dallas Texans/Hasan Nazari decision? Seems unlikely that they would penalize their own teams.
Was this a Dallas Cup decision???
Which U-15 North Texas teams are they deliberately trying to avoid?  

Think of it,  only the U-15s were singled out? Why??

Once again, if it wasn't for their preemptive comment-
Dallas Cup Executive Director Gordon Jago stated that “We are often criticized by local clubs that they are superior to many of the teams that we have invited.  The Texans’ Fall Festival tournament will give them the opportunity to prove us wrong."

If it wasn't for this- I wouldn't be asking.
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Post by NTX-FootyFan on 19/11/18, 10:05 am

Not sure the reasoning for this age group being shafted out of an opportunity to get the Dallas Cup spot. But they did the same thing last year for the U-15 age group in both Texans Fall Festival & Bobby Rhine tourney.

Not sure why there is so much love for non-local teams. If you remember last year the OK Energy 04s were beaten in the group stage by a D3 team now D2. FC premier yellow who are now Falls Town FC. The local D3 team went on to win the fall festival tourney and get Dallas cup spot. And even with OK Energy not making it out of the group stage they were still rewarded with a Dallas cup spot in the Unvision Deportes Showcase group ...

Baffling to me.

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Post by Gameday 04 New on 19/11/18, 10:33 am

Thanks for saying that NTX-FootyFan and for reminding us of Falls Town great run last year.
They seemed to have opted out this year as well. Usually a team will want to defend their title, but why risk injury.

So it's not just me that thinks this is odd?
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Post by Muc03b on 19/11/18, 11:55 am

This hasn’t been the case for this age group for as long as I can remember. If you’re able to find the old lists of accepted teams from the past, you’ll see most of the top local U15 teams don’t mess with DTFF or the BR for this reason. I’ve always wondered why this particular age group though. What’s the difference between U15 and say U16-U18?

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Post by NTX-FootyFan on 19/11/18, 02:17 pm

It was atleast the case for last years season for the U15 age group. No DC qualification for U15 age if it was a NTX winner.

Believe OK energy won fall festival & sporting United Bobby Rhine.

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Post by Muc03b on 19/11/18, 03:57 pm

Sporting was runner-up to Tigres 03 from Mexico I believe. The field is much deeper for BR this year around in the 03s.

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Post by NTX-FootyFan on 19/11/18, 10:47 pm

Yes sir Muc03b you are correct ... Just still remember that no NTX winner @ U15 would be awarded Dallas cup qualification

Still find that odd how this one age group is singled out the last year and this year.

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Post by Soccer27 on 20/11/18, 08:01 am

It’s because all 3 local DA teams get an automatic bid. So that it’s not all local teams in DC spots. It was changed to allow non local teams a spot for DC.

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Post by Gameday 04 New on 20/11/18, 12:14 pm

Soccer27 brings up a possible reason.

Does the Classic League still get an automatic invitation?
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Post by Muc03b on 20/11/18, 01:37 pm

Yes they do. It seems like the DA teams get a bid no matter what age group though. And typically the top FCD team (more likely the Premier team) gets a bid as well regardless of whether they win the league. Smile

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Post by Gameday 04 New on 21/11/18, 01:31 pm

Yes, the FC Dallas team should get the automatic invite because it has the word "Premiere" in their name. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Riquelme Rises on 21/11/18, 03:21 pm

Gameday 04 New wrote:Gee Thanks DTSC Fall Festival!?

FIRST THEY HIT YOU WITH A PREEMPTIVE RETORT:
Dallas Cup Executive Director Gordon Jago stated that “We are often criticized by local clubs that they are superior to many of the teams that we have invited.  The Texans’ Fall Festival tournament will give them the opportunity to prove us wrong.

THEN A TYPO:
The 2017 (assume 2018) DTSC Fall Festival is again a Qualifying tournament for the 2019 Dallas Cup XL (April 14 - April 21, 2019).

THEN, THE FINE PRINT:
d.     U15 Boys – any NON – NORTH TEXAS (NTSSA) team that wins the Red (top) division

GEE THANKS, so much for proving them wrong?  

Here you go SOUTH TEXAS, here you go OKLAHOMA. Have at it.  

And who did the Dallas Kicks piss off? Why is the #3 team in N Texas, #2 in Classic get placed in the second tier? Not that it matters because they wouldn't get an invite anyways, but it is insulting.

What message does this send to not only the Kicks players, but all of the teams, coaches and players of North Texas?




We have a major problem in NTX and that is the whole system is being run by old NTX relics like Ray Hirshowitz. Example during Summer Festival this director said two teams that have been in Classic D3 for at least 3 seasons deserve to be in silver division even though they ranked in the top ten on Gotsoccer but then this same directtor puts a recently promoted team to D3 in gold bracket.....I mean what justification could he have for that? Last season they were playing in Plano and did well in Challenge tourny and they get gold division?

The beauty of it is they never tell you the criteria so you can never hold their feet to the fire. You will continue to see them give preference to teams from South Texas and out of state teams....why? Only they know..... but smells like a rat.

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