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Post by hjm on 17/07/19, 07:09 pm

How many NPL teams does each club get for each age group?

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Post by brazos on 17/07/19, 09:01 pm

As many that want to fork up the money to join a subpar travel league?

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Post by BENDMEOVER on 21/07/19, 05:17 pm

If you want to be challenged and developed at a high level this is the league for you.

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Post by Zizou on 22/07/19, 09:29 am

Yes, you can develop with Bend me over and his DD.

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Post by BENDMEOVER on 22/07/19, 03:27 pm

If you got money Zizou you can play in the NPL.

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Post by Balotelli45 on 23/07/19, 06:55 am

All these leagues, and fake National Championships have to stop. This is why soccer is so expensive in the US. Why travel, if you are going to play the 300 ranked team....Why have a "National championship tourney" where you play the 226th team in the final.......Parents are getting robbed blind.



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Post by Zizou on 23/07/19, 07:42 am

As long as you have parents like Bendmeover with expendable cash and dream of their DD’s playing in the spot light with a pot of gold potentially at the end of the rainbow. Then these leagues and teams will continue, with the understanding their is a new waive of misinformed naive parents popping up continuously.

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Post by BENDMEOVER on 23/07/19, 10:17 pm

The pot of gold is there Zizou. Unicorns and rainbows.

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Post by Hooper214 on 24/07/19, 12:50 am

A great big congratulations is in order for the Fever 05 for winning the ECNL National Championship!!! WOOHOO!!!!

Now send all your players over to FC Dallas so they can win the real National Championship in the DA.
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Post by 05DD on 24/07/19, 10:23 am

So obviously Fever didn't win ECNL championship, and they were beaten at USYS Regionals. So which championship did they win? Or is Hooper trolling as usual?
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Post by timmyh on 24/07/19, 12:25 pm

Per Facebook posts, they beat an ECNL team in the final yesterday in Colorado to win the NPL National Cup.

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Post by Balotelli45 on 24/07/19, 12:42 pm

timmyh wrote:Per Facebook posts, they beat an ECNL team in the final yesterday in Colorado to win the NPL National Cup.

Go look at the team rankings in Us youth soccer ranking. The team was ranked #206 in the nation. Actually, the Fever team is a really good team. This is no knock on the girls. The system is broken. The fact that tourneys are not open to whoever, and you have to be part of a big club to play certain teams is not right.... But it’s also not right for these new leagues and clubs to sell these tourney’s as real competition. The big clubs still win, because they just send their 3rd or fourth team to these lesser tourneys.

To pay to travel to these fake National championships doesn’t make sense. The club, the leagues and the parents, who want to say my kid is a national champion get the benefit. Not the kids. Kids have fun and make memories at any tourney.....This is the everyone gets a trophy mentality...


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Post by IAmSoccerfan on 24/07/19, 01:02 pm

Yeah, they should do away with all national championships except one. NCAA DI should be the only league in college sports to have a national championship. DII, DIII, NAIA, etc. shouldn't be allowed to have a championship. Those kids don't work as hard and don't deserve a chance to play for something.
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Post by G21DD on 24/07/19, 01:05 pm

They market it as exposure to college coaches.  My kid went to NPL finals and there is some but not much and not really schools she's interested in.  Think showcases and id camps are better options unless you are DA or ECNL.

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Post by Balotelli45 on 24/07/19, 01:21 pm

IAmSoccerfan wrote:Yeah, they should do away with all national championships except one.  NCAA DI should be the only league in college sports to have a national championship.  DII, DIII, NAIA, etc. shouldn't be allowed to have a championship.  Those kids don't work as hard and don't deserve a chance to play for something.

The difference is in education....A lot of parents don’t know the difference....I didn’t, with my first kid. I learned later. I have talked to parents, who thought, they literally are playing the best competition. Only the crazy folks like me, look at rankings...and most of the time, the D1 to NAIA talent is different... But with the independents it’s different, their kids are a lot of times as good, as the big clubs, but because of the system, they don’t get an opportunity to play the big club top teams...That’s not right... I don’t think the answer is to create all these other leagues...I think the answer is to create levels where every team has an opportunity to be number 1, like basketball.

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Post by TxFutbal on 24/07/19, 01:50 pm

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IAmSoccerfan wrote:
The difference is in education....A lot of parents don’t know the difference....I didn’t, with my first kid.  I learned later.  I have talked to parents, who thought, they literally are playing the best competition.  Only the crazy folks like me, look at rankings...and most of the time, the D1 to NAIA talent is different... But with the independents it’s different, their kids are a lot of times as good, as the big clubs, but because of the system, they don’t get an opportunity to play the big club top teams...That’s not right... I don’t think the answer is to create all these other leagues...I think the answer is to create levels where every team has an opportunity to be number 1, like basketball.  

That systems exists.  It's called APL/PPL -> LHGCL -> Frontier League -> Regionals -> National Championship.  ECNL/ECRL/NPL are club managed leagues to to develop and have a place for kids to play.  LHGCL/Frontier League/National League are the only leagues you actually have to qualify for.  When clubs started expanding beyond 1 team per age group, it became too hard to qualify for LHGCL.  When LHCGL wouldn't change the rules to allow clubs more "flexibility" beyond CPP the clubs picked up their balls and created their own sand box..  It all started with ENCL and has just gotten crazy ever since.  The question is did LH make a mistake by not expanding fast enough to accommodate the growing landscape for girls soccer.  I think Junior Academy league is a great addition to LH but the D1/D2/D3 system needs to change.  Too many kids playing soccer and not enough quality spots to play.  Plus with the pool concept, it's not about a single team anymore because the clubs have sometimes 4-8 teams per age group.

QT by far is the best tournament out there because it means something more than kids posing with a trophy for a facebook photo.  This being said, the kids probably could care less about LH as a league because tournaments are way more fun.. The travel, the hotels, kids getting off the parents leash, hangin out and doing stupid stuff, that's what they care about.  Lots of stuff for the soccer leaders to think about before they beat each other up beyond repair. Of course it all starts with USYS vs US Club.  Soccer is the only sport besides the jacked up word of boxing that seemingly have 2 governing bodies

Just my 2 cents.

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Post by smugrr on 24/07/19, 02:32 pm

Baseball has several governing bodies. Some teams go to tournaments sponsored by a particular body because if you win enough, a governing body moves you up from A to AA to AAA to Majors and they want to keep winning trophies. So they go to tournaments held by a different organization. Which does not result in bumping you up.

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Post by Hooper214 on 25/07/19, 10:19 pm

IAmSoccerfan wrote:Yeah, they should do away with all national championships except one.  NCAA DI should be the only league in college sports to have a national championship.  DII, DIII, NAIA, etc. shouldn't be allowed to have a championship.  Those kids don't work as hard and don't deserve a chance to play for something.
Amen Sister!!!
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Post by BENDMEOVER on 26/07/19, 12:23 pm

Unicorns and Rainbows. I see the pot of gold.

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Post by SickofStupidity on 27/07/19, 08:57 am

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timmyh wrote:Per Facebook posts, they beat an ECNL team in the final yesterday in Colorado to win the NPL National Cup.

Go look at the team rankings in Us youth soccer ranking. The team was ranked #206 in the nation.  Actually, the Fever team is a really good team. This is no knock on the girls. The system is broken. The fact that tourneys are not open to whoever, and you have to be part of a big club to play certain teams is not right.... But it’s also not right for these new leagues and clubs to sell these tourney’s as real competition. The big clubs still win, because they just send their 3rd or fourth team to these lesser tourneys.

To pay to travel to these fake National championships doesn’t make sense.  The club, the leagues and the parents, who want to say my kid is a national champion get the benefit. Not the kids. Kids have fun and make memories at any tourney.....This is the everyone gets a trophy mentality...



These parents and their ridiculous Facebook posts.

"Our team just lost in the National Finals. We are the #2 team in the US."

Seriously? You may be fooling your gullible and ignorant "friends" but anyone who knows anything knows you aren't even close.

Does she play DA? Nope. ECNL? Nope. Any league we have actually ever heard of? Won any tournaments of note?

So a group of 3rd and 4th place teams from a variety of clubs came together to form a league, create their own playoffs of teams ranked around 200 in the country, and you go out and post that your daughter's runner-up team is "#2 in the US"?


Please. Think before you put that on Facebook, where people who actually know what you are doing will see it.

(not referring to the Fever team above, but another DFW team in another age group - just a good thread to point out the ridiculousness)



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Post by BENDMEOVER on 31/07/19, 09:55 am

There's gold em them hills!

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Post by Wannabe on 31/07/19, 09:31 pm

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https://events.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.aspx?eventid=74565&showall=true

Based on last years results for North Texas teams, each group has a large variation from LHGCL Div 1, 2, 3 and a few PPL teams. Most are LHGCL Div 2 & 3 teams. So why are we playing OK, AR, KS, LA?

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Post by smugrr on 01/08/19, 08:37 am

Including, in U13, some '08 teams playing up.

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Post by Yo on 01/08/19, 08:46 am

smugrr wrote:Including, in U13, some '08 teams playing up.

Yep, we've finally reached the point where there are more leagues than there are teams to fill them. 08 teams will be playing LHGCL D1 as well.

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Post by BENDMEOVER on 01/08/19, 10:21 am

The only gold I've found is fools gold.

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