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Post by pitchworm on 21/03/11, 04:16 pm

My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.
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Post by whowasthatto on 21/03/11, 04:28 pm

I have seen that happen way too often. For some reason the high school coaches don't care that club is what gets these kids into college, not high school. Unfortunately, the AD's don't care either since it is not football or basketball. If I had relied on my DD's high school coach to play college soccer, she would be lucky to play at a DIII school as opposed to the DI school she will be playing at next year.

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Post by Guest on 21/03/11, 04:34 pm

pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.
Why not just have her sit out the next game? I think using running as punishment is azz backwards.

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Post by Guest on 21/03/11, 04:40 pm

pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.

This is moronic for so many reasons. But the bottom line comes down to this: You are putting that player in a situation to where she could get run down and an injury occur. This is too much stress to put on a young person's body when you consider she will still be doing club and HS practices and games during this time.

Walk away from this ego-maniac.

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Post by pitchnovice on 21/03/11, 04:46 pm

Claim religious persecution and the coach will back down real quick....

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Post by soccerinsane on 21/03/11, 05:34 pm

whowasthatto wrote:I have seen that happen way too often. For some reason the high school coaches don't care that club is what gets these kids into college, not high school. Unfortunately, the AD's don't care either since it is not football or basketball. If I had relied on my DD's high school coach to play college soccer, she would be lucky to play at a DIII school as opposed to the DI school she will be playing at next year.

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Post by pitchworm on 21/03/11, 05:54 pm

She is having to run and sit out a game.................HS may be done.......she likes playing for fun but this is getting rediculious.
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Post by MagnaEstVeritas on 21/03/11, 06:16 pm

pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.


It sounds to me like the HS coach is suffering from a severe and chronic case of HeaddeusUpRectum compounded by an oversized ego… This condition is often fatal to a HS coach’s career if left untreated and the school's AD has any sense at all...

Seriously, it amazes me how some of these HS coaches are willing to shoot themselves in the foot and reduce their chances of winning in an effort to appear that their team’s success is a result of their coaching and not simply how many club players they are fortunate enough to have.

It sounds to me like the coach has issues and is just compensating for something...

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Post by wornout on 21/03/11, 06:23 pm

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pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.


It sounds to me like the HS coach is suffering from a severe and chronic case of HeaddeusUpRectum compounded by an oversized ego… This condition is often fatal to a HS coach’s career if left untreated and the school's AD has any sense at all...

Seriously, it amazes me how some of these HS coaches are willing to shoot themselves in the foot and reduce their chances of winning in an effort to appear that their team’s success is a result of their coaching and not simply how many club players they are fortunate enough to have.

It sounds to me like the coach has issues and is just compensating for something...

Next time, just call in "sick".
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Post by Lawnboy on 21/03/11, 07:11 pm

This wouldn't happen to be the Allen HS guy, would it?

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Post by MaggieMaggie on 21/03/11, 10:04 pm

Haven't verified but told tonight at practice that if a Mansfield girl misses a HS game for a club game, they are off the team?
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Post by shootfire on 21/03/11, 10:20 pm

pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.
Was missing a HS game for a Club game addressed before the season began? many coaches have expectations/behavior type contracts to sign (along with the parents signature) before the season starts, where everything is laid out in advance. I still think it's a dumb punishment, but if the expectations were known beforehand-maybe not as dumb..
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Post by Elk on 21/03/11, 10:45 pm

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Post by Guest on 22/03/11, 03:38 am

shootfire wrote:
pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.
Was missing a HS game for a Club game addressed before the season began? many coaches have expectations/behavior type contracts to sign (along with the parents signature) before the season starts, where everything is laid out in advance. I still think it's a dumb punishment, but if the expectations were known beforehand-maybe not as dumb..

Agreed. This has been covered before on here. High school teams are now in playoff games or in key matches that will determine if their team will even make the playoffs. If the punishment was known ahead of time, then the offending player should be willing to take her medicine. Her other option is to quit high school soccer because the mean ole' coach won't treat her like she's the select star on the team. Kids need to learn accountability and too many parents aren't willing to teach it.

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Post by MaggieMaggie on 22/03/11, 06:41 am

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pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.
Was missing a HS game for a Club game addressed before the season began? many coaches have expectations/behavior type contracts to sign (along with the parents signature) before the season starts, where everything is laid out in advance. I still think it's a dumb punishment, but if the expectations were known beforehand-maybe not as dumb..

Agreed. This has been covered before on here. High school teams are now in playoff games or in key matches that will determine if their team will even make the playoffs. If the punishment was known ahead of time, then the offending player should be willing to take her medicine. Her other option is to quit high school soccer because the mean ole' coach won't treat her like she's the select star on the team. Kids need to learn accountability and too many parents aren't willing to teach it.
While I would not like it, the Mansfield girls/parents did know this going in and they did agree. With the recent HS injuries and now playoffs, at least none of the girls who can/will play in upcoming club games will want for lack of play time tongue
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Post by go99 on 22/03/11, 08:09 am

I think it all lies with where you priorities are. For the highschool coach it is "his" team. For me as a parent it is "my" child. If the DD is on a top club team and getting opportunities to play in college then I would certianly not let her risk that for a highschool game. Her priority would be with her club team. I would have however let that be clearly known to the coach before hand. She has other commitment that come first. If that was not a workable situation then she would not play.
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Post by shootfire on 22/03/11, 08:43 am

I agree, many kids and parents know they are going to miss but are not upfront with the coach until the last minute and it puts the TEAM n a bind( I don't know if that was the case here), esp with district play and plyoffs. If a coach knows a key player will be out during certain games, he can groom someone else for that position-but if he or she is not prepared it can really hurt the game plan . I think if you choose to be on the HS team , you should respect it just as you would your own select team. Even tho there are some wacko coaches out there-High School and Select, I do respect a coach that holds ALL players to the same standards. Even tho HS soccer is not the ticket into college ball and many times not high quality soccer, it IS important to the players on that team, the coach, the parents of the players and the school.


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Post by go99 on 22/03/11, 08:48 am

exactly. Communication in the key. The reality is that it is often not possible to make everything. Often when a player (parent) is upfront and set the expectations early then things can be worked out. Especially if the player is from one of the top scouted teams. Coaches usually understand and would take those players for the games that they can get them in.
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Post by pitchworm on 22/03/11, 09:07 am

That is not the case, coach did not make guidelines, other girls have missed but only been required to run 2 miles. I am a firm believer in making kids accountable but right is right and right and wrong is wrong.
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Post by Guest on 22/03/11, 09:23 am

pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.

My 2 cents....giggle.....Being that you play on 2 teams, you of course have had the discussion with your DD about responsibilities and keeping up with commitments for both teams, but this is a prime opportunity for you to show your DD that sometimes, it's best to drop from being on a team than to continue trying your best to be on both.
I would explain to her that the HS coach is being unreasonable, and is not really considering her overall well being. If the HS coach was aware of the situation that your DD was in when she started playing high school soccer, then he can't be complaining or pushing hard punishment about her missing a game.
I make sure my DD's coaches are fully aware of everything that is going on with both her teams. Yes this is just academy, but it applies at the older age level as well.
If her coach knew her situation coming in and you properly notified them of the potential for conflict here and there, then he needs to just accept it and move past it. Having her run miles on end and potentially increasing her risk of injury because of his hurt ego, it just shows her that this is not where she needs to be.
It'd be hard, but if this is the treatment your DD will look forward to for a missed game, then I'd have her drop high school soccer and for the next few weeks, she'd be wearing her club gear, medals around her neck, and her disney trophies in her bag each day so he can see what he missed out on.

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Post by Guest on 22/03/11, 09:33 am

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pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.

My 2 cents....giggle.....Being that you play on 2 teams, you of course have had the discussion with your DD about responsibilities and keeping up with commitments for both teams, but this is a prime opportunity for you to show your DD that sometimes, it's best to drop from being on a team than to continue trying your best to be on both.
I would explain to her that the HS coach is being unreasonable, and is not really considering her overall well being. If the HS coach was aware of the situation that your DD was in when she started playing high school soccer, then he can't be complaining or pushing hard punishment about her missing a game.
I make sure my DD's coaches are fully aware of everything that is going on with both her teams. Yes this is just academy, but it applies at the older age level as well.
If her coach knew her situation coming in and you properly notified them of the potential for conflict here and there, then he needs to just accept it and move past it. Having her run miles on end and potentially increasing her risk of injury because of his hurt ego, it just shows her that this is not where she needs to be.
It'd be hard, but if this is the treatment your DD will look forward to for a missed game, then I'd have her drop high school soccer and for the next few weeks, she'd be wearing her club gear, medals around her neck, and her disney trophies in her bag each day so he can see what he missed out on.

Good luck!

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Post by pitchworm on 22/03/11, 09:42 am

yes, that is what has been decided............goodbye HS soccer.
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Post by turf dad on 22/03/11, 09:43 am

My DD missed a HS game but her coach only made her carry the ball bag. I can deal with that.
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Post by Guest on 22/03/11, 09:46 am

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pitchworm wrote:My DD missed a high school game for league play. The "ego coach" is requiring her to run 3- 2 miles sets in less than 16 minutes and do 45-100 yard sprints. This needs to be done in one weeks time.

Has anyone else had to deal with such.

My 2 cents....giggle.....Being that you play on 2 teams, you of course have had the discussion with your DD about responsibilities and keeping up with commitments for both teams, but this is a prime opportunity for you to show your DD that sometimes, it's best to drop from being on a team than to continue trying your best to be on both.
I would explain to her that the HS coach is being unreasonable, and is not really considering her overall well being. If the HS coach was aware of the situation that your DD was in when she started playing high school soccer, then he can't be complaining or pushing hard punishment about her missing a game.
I make sure my DD's coaches are fully aware of everything that is going on with both her teams. Yes this is just academy, but it applies at the older age level as well.
If her coach knew her situation coming in and you properly notified them of the potential for conflict here and there, then he needs to just accept it and move past it. Having her run miles on end and potentially increasing her risk of injury because of his hurt ego, it just shows her that this is not where she needs to be.
It'd be hard, but if this is the treatment your DD will look forward to for a missed game, then I'd have her drop high school soccer and for the next few weeks, she'd be wearing her club gear, medals around her neck, and her disney trophies in her bag each day so he can see what he missed out on.

Good luck!

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Post by Guest on 22/03/11, 09:53 am

pitchworm wrote:yes, that is what has been decided............goodbye HS soccer.

PLEASE...PLEASE.....Make sure she wears her club gear for the next few days after dropping HS soccer.....a disney trophy wouldn't hurt either.

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