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Post by bronxdad on 26/07/11, 01:09 pm

I heard that Texans are now closing practices at Ross Stewart to parents, only the team manager is allowed in the complex for practice. How do you feel about it? My dd being a 96 I rarely stick around for practice anyway, if my dd was a little younger I would be pissed. I can not imagine this policy is popular?


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Post by TNT on 26/07/11, 01:14 pm

I would have a huge issue with it, and for me and my family such would not fly. If the club had stated such prior to signing, fine we would be gone, but throw something like this our way right after signing, don't think so.

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Post by ralfdallas on 26/07/11, 01:17 pm

TNT wrote:I would have a huge issue with it, and for me and my family such would not fly. If the club had stated such prior to signing, fine we would be gone, but throw something like this our way right after signing, don't think so.

It was in the contract.
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Post by InaB on 26/07/11, 01:22 pm

Wow, are you guys that rowdy?What a Face
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Post by bronxdad on 26/07/11, 01:23 pm

InaB wrote:Wow, are you guys that rowdy?What a Face
you have them confused with the Feet parents Very Happy

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Post by thiescj on 26/07/11, 01:24 pm

ralfdallas wrote:
TNT wrote:I would have a huge issue with it, and for me and my family such would not fly. If the club had stated such prior to signing, fine we would be gone, but throw something like this our way right after signing, don't think so.

It was in the contract.

Are parents still allowed to go to the games? Or will the Texans post a video of the game online for all parents to see.
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Post by InaB on 26/07/11, 01:25 pm

DOH! a whole new meaning for "Film at 11."


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Post by JeffM on 26/07/11, 01:26 pm

bronxdad wrote:I heard that Texans are now closing practices at Ross Stewart to parents, only the team manager is allowed in the complex for practice. How do you feel about it? My dd being a 96 I rarely stick around for practice anyway, if my dd was a little younger I would be pissed. I can not imagine this policy is popular?

Just at Ross Stewart? And if per Ralf it was in the contract, how was it worded? (Ralph, post your contract - with it properly redacted of course.)

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Post by Guest on 26/07/11, 01:26 pm

I heard that Texans are now closing practices at Ross Stewart to parents, only the team manager is allowed in the complex for practice. How do you feel about it? My dd being a 96 I rarely stick around for practice anyway, if my dd was a little younger I would be pissed. I can not imagine this policy is popular?



be VERY wary of anyone or any org that wants to isolate children from their parents. Teenagers? hmm , small children ? no way

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Post by enjoysoccer on 26/07/11, 01:29 pm

TNT wrote:I would have a huge issue with it, and for me and my family such would not fly. If the club had stated such prior to signing, fine we would be gone, but throw something like this our way right after signing, don't think so.

Good luck with that. Texans do what they want.
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Post by InaB on 26/07/11, 01:33 pm

I still have to wonder why? Are they using water boarding? Electric cattle prods? Mind control? (Good luck with the last one because mine never minds!)
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Post by enjoysoccer on 26/07/11, 01:34 pm

InaB wrote:I still have to wonder why? Are they using water boarding? Electric cattle prods? Mind control? (Good luck with the last one because mine never minds!)

I think it was that a parent put their chair on the grass instead of the sidewalk.
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Post by txtransplant on 26/07/11, 01:35 pm

Honestly, I don't think this is all that unusual. Oldest DD did competitive gymnastics prior to soccer. Parents were left in a waiting room. Middle DD's dance studio has a closed door policy, no parents in the room, no viewing windows. I send them to public school and don't sit in the class all day with them.

So how is that any different?

Kids can't learn if they are constantly being distracted by parents on the sidelines or in the wings, no matter the activity. They need to learn to succeed without parents joysticking every move.
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Post by InaB on 26/07/11, 01:36 pm

OMG! Just shoot them, shoot them now! The parents that is.
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Post by Guest on 26/07/11, 01:41 pm

"honestly, I don't think this is all that unusual. Oldest DD did competitive gymnastics prior to soccer. Parents were left in a waiting room. Middle DD's dance studio has a closed door policy, no parents in the room, no viewing windows. I send them to public school and don't sit in the class all day with them."

my guess is that any time you want to see your kid, you can sign in and do it. when orgs or people try to prevent parents from seeing what they are doing it is a problem.

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Post by Eagleeye on 26/07/11, 01:43 pm

anselansel wrote:"honestly, I don't think this is all that unusual. Oldest DD did competitive gymnastics prior to soccer. Parents were left in a waiting room. Middle DD's dance studio has a closed door policy, no parents in the room, no viewing windows. I send them to public school and don't sit in the class all day with them."

my guess is that any time you want to see your kid, you can sign in and do it. when orgs or people try to prevent parents from seeing what they are doing it is a problem.

Not going to work very well for people who drive long distances for practice. Can't go home, and the libraries will be closed!
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Post by txtransplant on 26/07/11, 01:45 pm

anselansel wrote:"my guess is that any time you want to see your kid, you can sign in and do it. when orgs or people try to prevent parents from seeing what they are doing it is a problem.

That would be incorrect. Both the gym and the dance studio would have one "open" week a year where parents were invited in to observe. You miss it... tough cookies. You'll see what they're doing either at a meet or the year end recital.

Eagleeye wrote:Not going to work very well for people who drive long distances for practice. Can't go home, and the libraries will be closed!
I thought that was what iPads, laptops, and Paneras are for. Smile

And let me add that in first grade the former gymnast was training six hours a week. I used that time to grocery shop and run errands.


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Post by thiescj on 26/07/11, 01:49 pm

txtransplant wrote:
anselansel wrote:"my guess is that any time you want to see your kid, you can sign in and do it. when orgs or people try to prevent parents from seeing what they are doing it is a problem.

That would be incorrect. Both the gym and the dance studio would have one "open" week a year where parents were invited in to observe. You miss it... tough cookies. You'll see what they're doing either at a meet or the year end recital.

Being locked out of a dance studio would be fine with me. In fact I would probably prefer that.
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Post by Guest on 26/07/11, 01:50 pm

That would be incorrect. Both the gym and the dance studio would have one "open" week a year where parents were invited in to observe. You miss it... tough cookies. You'll see what they're doing either at a meet or the year end recital.


i would imagine that was done because of the small space that these endeavors practiced in. soccer fields are huge and this is merely arrogance on the texans part. (also part of the contract- section 15 paragraph four- arrogance will be accepted by the parent as condition to be part of holier than thou club)

also if anything happens, surprise! only the texans witnessed it. great if a child molestation charge is brought or negligence.........

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Post by JeffM on 26/07/11, 01:53 pm

txtransplant wrote:Honestly, I don't think this is all that unusual. Oldest DD did competitive gymnastics prior to soccer. Parents were left in a waiting room. Middle DD's dance studio has a closed door policy, no parents in the room, no viewing windows. I send them to public school and don't sit in the class all day with them.

So how is that any different?

Kids can't learn if they are constantly being distracted by parents on the sidelines or in the wings, no matter the activity. They need to learn to succeed without parents joysticking every move.

Something tells me that these were top dance & gymnastics organizations. (measured by the top level athletes turned out)

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Post by h_seldon on 26/07/11, 01:54 pm

txtransplant wrote:Honestly, I don't think this is all that unusual. Oldest DD did competitive gymnastics prior to soccer. Parents were left in a waiting room. Middle DD's dance studio has a closed door policy, no parents in the room, no viewing windows. I send them to public school and don't sit in the class all day with them.

So how is that any different?

Kids can't learn if they are constantly being distracted by parents on the sidelines or in the wings, no matter the activity. They need to learn to succeed without parents joysticking every move.

txtransplant....your last paragraph is exactly what the reasoning is.
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Post by BastaYa! on 26/07/11, 01:57 pm

"The Dallas Texans soccer club greatly values its relationships with parent who provide critical financial and volunteer support who are our valuable partner in helping to motivate players positively and who help us provide the important element of character development along with soccer skills development.

While the support and excitement of the parents is appreciated, we will only on occasion ask that the parents be present for training because we try to reduce the pressure and expectancy that young players can feel when they play with the Dallas Texans so they can relax and enjoy playing in an uninhibited way.

Player in our program, as with any advanced training program need to get used to performing at the highest level even without the support of their parents/relatives and friends. This need is especially important when dealing with tournaments and traveling. Parents cannot always be present for some games, especially those that are far away. It would be detrimental for the player's performance to be altered by feelings of anxiety and separation. Travelling together and training as a closed unit can build great chemistry between players.

Pressure and expectation on our player can also be greatly reduced when they have fewer people they feel they have to please. We must remember that beyond their own self-gratification, most player strive to please and impress their parents at all turns. Liberation from these pressures can often lead to a turning point in their development, both as a soccer player and person. These situations can also be beneficial to the coaches, as a lack of outside factors help to focus the players' attention and everyone gets the most out of their time put into training sessions. The focus can return great benefits to the player. Any training session where the attendance of the parents is requested will be announced beforehand.

Every effort will be made by the Dallas Texans coaching staff to maintain a safe and beneficial environment for the players at all times."


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Post by txtransplant on 26/07/11, 01:57 pm

Is the team escorted in by the manager? Do they arrive as a group and leave as a group? And how many other teams are training at the same time? The likelihood of any "inappropriatness" happening is nil. And the reason managers have emergency contact info, doctor's information, is in case their is an emergency.

Let's call it what it is... parents are ticked off because they can't give up the control, to allow their children to be taught by someone else without second guessing the person they entrusted and are paying to do their job correctly.

You know, I went to summer camp every year as a kid. Said goodbye to the parents on Sunday and wouldn't see/nor talk to them for two weeks. I loved it as much as they did.

Sometimes these rules are in place so the kids can get a break from their parents' riding their butts during practice. Embarrassing them during games is bad enough.


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Post by h_seldon on 26/07/11, 01:57 pm

anselansel wrote:That would be incorrect. Both the gym and the dance studio would have one "open" week a year where parents were invited in to observe. You miss it... tough cookies. You'll see what they're doing either at a meet or the year end recital.


i would imagine that was done because of the small space that these endeavors practiced in. soccer fields are huge and this is merely arrogance on the texans part. (also part of the contract- section 15 paragraph four- arrogance will be accepted by the parent as condition to be part of holier than thou club)

also if anything happens, surprise! only the texans witnessed it. great if a child molestation charge is brought or negligence.........

obviously you have not been to Ross Stewart. depending on the field, you can sit in a car, or on the deck behind the clubhouse and watch from a distance.
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Post by Guest on 26/07/11, 02:00 pm

obviously you have not been to Ross Stewart. depending on the field, you can sit in a car, or on the deck behind the clubhouse and watch from a distance.


and if they asked you not to do that? still feel great about little suzy in their hands? clubs/orgs that treat parents as enemies are not worthy of your time and should be avoided. parents around keep people accountable and keep the adult/child relationship in perspective. you know what is going on, not he said/she said, evasive answers about your kid etc.

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