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Post by Blank77 29/07/13, 07:27 pm

Not sure if high school is the right place for this, but I have a hypothetical.

Say, a player is home schooled and playing club soccer with the idea of playing soccer in college. Now, instead of going to public high school, she starts taking true college classes at her local community college at 14 (this isn't unusual for home schoolers) and when her age group is graduating high school, she has 2 years of college credits. If she is looking to start her collegiate soccer career at this time, will this be a problem? Would she still have 4 years of eligibility since she hasn't played? Will soccer schools care that at 18 instead of a high school diploma she has, say an associates degree? Could this be a plus?

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Post by JeffM 29/07/13, 07:54 pm

Blank77 wrote:Not sure if high school is the right place for this, but I have a hypothetical.

Say, a player is home schooled and playing club soccer with the idea of playing soccer in college.  Now, instead of going to public high school, she starts taking true college classes at her local community college at 14 (this isn't unusual for home schoolers) and when her age group is graduating high school, she has 2 years of college credits.  If she is looking to start her collegiate soccer career at this time, will this be a problem?  Would she still have 4 years of eligibility since she hasn't played?  Will soccer schools care that at 18 instead of a high school diploma she has, say an associates degree?  Could this be a plus?  


Back in the day, the clock did not start running until the individual participated in actual workouts, etc. May not be the same now. I know the DD would be dragged up to the UTD summer conditioning program, by her cousin who played for UTD, and it was considered not a practice, as they did not work on the sport itself (no soccer ball was allowed, or it would be considered a practice, and an NCAA violation.)

I think the college would be happy to get a student that has proven they can handle a college course load, and played a sport at the same time.

I suggest you talk to many knowledgeable people (not sure you will find them here) and do some serious research yourself.

DD is homeschooled, and doing the dual credit stuff but has thrown in the towel on playing college soccer.

I would like to find out what you learn though, I have been curious about this myself.

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Post by SwitchDaField 29/07/13, 09:39 pm

I believe you will still have 4 years of eligibility left. The clock starts when you actually start playing the sport. You can graduate early from college and still participate in sports. It's done all the time college football.

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Post by JustaSport 30/07/13, 08:04 am

I vaguely remember discussing this with a dad whose daughter was pretty much a genius, was accumulating multiple college credits while in high school, and was also a soccer player.  He mentioned at the time that she would need to accumulate less than 12 hours per semester (so as not be considered a full-time student) so that should she could retain full athletic eligibility.  You'll want to look up the details of the "5 Year Rule" through the NCAA.  It is not a very forgiving institution.  Here's the first part of it:

14.2.1 – Five-Year Rule.
A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services, on official religious missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being excepted. For international students, service in the armed forces or on an official religious mission of the student’s home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.
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Post by JeffM 30/07/13, 09:41 am

JustaSport wrote:I vaguely remember discussing this with a dad whose daughter was pretty much a genius, was accumulating multiple college credits while in high school, and was also a soccer player.  He mentioned at the time that she would need to accumulate less than 12 hours per semester (so as not be considered a full-time student) so that should she could retain full athletic eligibility.  You'll want to look up the details of the "5 Year Rule" through the NCAA.  It is not a very forgiving institution.  Here's the first part of it:

14.2.1 – Five-Year Rule.
A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services, on official religious missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being excepted. For international students, service in the armed forces or on an official religious mission of the student’s home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.

Ever wonder why alot of BYU athletes look like they are in their late 20s?

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Post by smcary 30/07/13, 05:07 pm

We have been looking into homeschooling and this has been one of the questions we have been wondering about too.  Thanks for the information.  We will continue to pursue further clarification if homeschooling becomes a definite plan.

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Post by bananakick 30/07/13, 07:01 pm

4DaLuvofTheGM wrote:I believe you will still have 4 years of eligibility left. The clock starts when you actually start playing the sport.  You can graduate early from college and still participate in sports.  It's done all the time college football.

Yes. I occasionally hear of football players who redshirt a year, graduate in 4 years, enroll in graduate school, and play their final year of eligibility.
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Post by bigpapa89 31/07/13, 04:17 pm

So I know when I graduated highschool 4 credits away from my associates, the college coaches that I spoke with about playing were excited. I know I was asked to take at least 12 credit hours between seasons. This helped me retain my eligibility, but besides that they liked the idea of having a player that could be more focused during soccer season on the sport then on school its self. I know I encourage any athlete to take dual credit classes in highschool as it will help them prevent from having to take 18 hours if they do want to graduate in 4 years.

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Post by Blank77 31/07/13, 04:20 pm

bigpapa89 wrote:So I know when I graduated highschool 4 credits away from my associates, the college coaches that I spoke with about playing were excited. I know I was asked to take at least 12 credit hours between seasons. This helped me retain my eligibility, but besides that they liked the idea of having a player that could be more focused during soccer season on the sport then on school its self.  I know I encourage any athlete to take dual credit classes in highschool as it will help them prevent from having to take 18 hours if they do want to graduate in 4 years.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions.


It sounds like at one time you were intelligent and a hard worker!  So, what happened?  

Also, did you ever get an associates degree, or were the 4 hours too much to tackle with a full soccer schedule?
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Post by JeffM 31/07/13, 04:34 pm

Blank77 wrote:
bigpapa89 wrote:So I know when I graduated highschool 4 credits away from my associates, the college coaches that I spoke with about playing were excited. I know I was asked to take at least 12 credit hours between seasons. This helped me retain my eligibility, but besides that they liked the idea of having a player that could be more focused during soccer season on the sport then on school its self.  I know I encourage any athlete to take dual credit classes in highschool as it will help them prevent from having to take 18 hours if they do want to graduate in 4 years.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions.


It sounds like at one time you were intelligent and a hard worker!  So, what happened?  

Also, did you ever get an associates degree, or were the 4 hours too much to tackle with a full soccer schedule?

I would suggest you get the associates degree if you are going the home school route.  (At least if you are going to go to a state school in Texas)  They will cherry pick and make you retake courses you have already had in Junior College, unless you have an associates.  There is a core curriculum guarantee, and you will pretty much need to complete the Associates to make sure you have the core curriculum completed. These help explain the Core Curriculum.

http://www.collin.edu/academics/programs/TexasCore.html

http://transferu.collin.edu/tips.html

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